Re: [Rosegarden-user] Audio segments not showing their contents (waveform)
On Tuesday, August 28, 2012 06:40:32 AM Holger Marzen wrote: Give Claws mail a try if it has to be clickable. I use (al)pine for more than a decade. No buttons, no cry. I'm trying everything from scratch with a completely virgin user directory, and making more headway. I've still got light years to go. No sound anywhere ever. Imagine that, right? On the bright side, I'll be able to tell everybody what they need to do to get Rosegarden working on 12.04.1 after another 500 or 600 hours of this. Sigh. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...
Dear Michael I've never used Ubuntu so I can not talk about it! I use ROSA-2012 (Russian version of Mandriva) http://www.rosalab.com/ with kde4.8.4 and the repo MIB http://mib.pianetalinux.org/blog/ which ROSA takes the kernel-nrj (low-latency). I, like you, am a user kmail since it exists! Even this mail comes from kmail! I use kmail starting kontact! Kmail akonadi needs to work so be sure to install all the modules akonadi! I think we all know that when you rewrite software to make a jump this jump is never painless! Also I Mandriva-Rosa I suffered when it was new kmail-kontact but now I use it with sufficient satisfaction! Problems still exist with filters to sort messages into different folders but nothing terribly irritating! I am sure that in future releases these little problems will be solved! Hang in there! Support kde and kmail! Revolutions require work! Greetings and good luck! -- oiram/bin/selom Da ognuno secondo le proprie capacità ad ognuno secondo i propri bisogni. Linux MIB Lilypond Frescobaldi Rosegarden -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...
On Mon, 27 Aug 2012 10:08:36 -0400 D. Michael McIntyre michael.mcint...@rosegardenmusic.com wrote: I'm writing from GMail in a web browser. I hate using a web browser for email, and have been using KMail for over 10 years. I love KMail. So somewhere after midnight I got the upgrade notification thing from my running Kubuntu 10.04 LTS that 12.04.1 was available. Interesting. That's the first time in years I've actually gotten one of those notifications. IMO, the IT world is in a major transition period, which started somewhere around 4 years ago (probably with the iphone), and will continue until, perhaps, somewhere between 2016 and 2020. (Hopefully, it will not extend much beyond that - otherwise, it will be more painful than some can bear.) As most (probably everyone) on this list knows, the main transition at this point is from the desktop (GUI on a PC - Windows for most people, but also OSX and Linux) to either or both of: - mobile/tablet-based apps, most of which make heavy use of web and/or internet connections. - web-based applications, where the main characters are the browser and a web server, a group of web-servers, and/or cloud-centric systems (which, perhaps, is a synonym for group of web-servers). For both of these options, most of the work will be done on servers on the web and the user's computer will be mainly a client making use of services running on these servers. Unfortunately, this transition is causing, and will continue to cause, major growing pains for those who are used to (i.e., almost all of us) the current system/paradigm. These growing pains are showing up in the Linux world as, for example, the GNOME team's desire to push their project into this new world/paradigm, and their users' resulting pain in finding things don't work as they used to - the transition is only, perhaps, 1/4 to 1/3 complete, and how it will actually turn out in the end is known only to those who both have access to, and have been willing to use, a future-oriented time machine (which is, likely, no one). Everyone else has to guess, and it's likely that most guesses will be off by quite a bit. In the meantime we are stuck with these painful transitional technologies, such as GNOME 3 and Ubuntu's Unity, which to many people seem like (and perhaps are) monstrosities. I don't think the Linux world is alone in being affected by these transitional pains - many people are wondering what the fuck they are going to do when Windows 8 (or Metro, or whatever-the-fuck it's being called now) comes out. It's trying to bridge this transition, too, and, IMO, is not doing a very good job of it. (Prediction: Microsoft will be, in about 10 to 15 years, the Sears of high-tech companies - they just don't have the right philosophy, vision, and creativity needed to keep up.) Apple may do better than both MS and Linux, but their position at or near the top in the near future is nowhere near guaranteed. And - again in the meantime - we have to make do with what we currently have in this confusing transitional period. The people (IMO) likely to feel the most pain in these times are the pseudo-geeks: those like Michael and most of the rest of us on this mailing list who have a fair amount of geeky skills/talents, but not enough to know how to maneuver around the obstacle course of changes resulting from this transition. The more common naive Joe/Sally user can for the most part trust MS (at least until MS becomes a has-been, which will take several years) or Apple to tell them what to do and will likely not have enough demands such that they experience great pain (maybe a little, but not like having, say, an amputation). And the true-geek will be able to use their pain to direct themselves to a workable, perhaps partly-hacked-together, solution. But the pseudo geek will likely have the demands to insist on something better than what's available, but not the skills to whip something up that will fulfill what they need. Result: mucho pain. But - to allude to the subject of this thread -: I don't think this automatically leads to the conclusion that things look bad for the future of Linux. Linux is used, probably, (mainly because of Android) in more devices these days than any other major OS (i.e., Windows, Windows-phone, IOS, OSX). And Linux appears to be the de facto OS for most embedded devices these days. Also, Linux is what Chrome OS is based on - another future-web/cloud-oriented technology. With all this reliance on Linux and with all the talented/skilled developers on this planet with approximately 7 billion people, it seems likely to me that something very good and useful will emerge in the next 5 to 10 years. It may take a while, and we may have to go through quite a bit of pain until then, but I think it's likely something workable for us pseudo-geeks will show up well before we die. Until then, I'm finding KDE4 on Fedora 17 quite workable. (I've been using KDE for many
Re: [Rosegarden-user] The future of Linux sure looks bleak...
Hi IMO, the IT world is in a major transition period Actually I think we're in a major cloud-bloviation period. Sure it has its place but I expect it to be a parallel option to desktops, not a replacement. It's a kind of IT Lite for those with several lightweight devices who don't really need the power of a modern computer. There are always going to be security issues handing your data over to someone else and of course the obvious one of how do you get any work done when the network is down. Desktops are cheap and highly modifiable and will last for as long as people have desks to put them on. Noel PS: for a highly tweakable system with an excellent package manager I recommend gentoo and http://www.aperiplus.co.uk/downloads/gentool.htm. Bootable backups take all the pain out of upgrades. -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Printing staff formatting suggestions
Rosegarden uses Lilypond for printing. You should be able to print directly from Rosegarden as long as Lilypond is installed. I use Suse as well. I seem to remember needng to manually install lilypond with a script because i had trouble finding an rpm for suse but it wasn't a big deal. Dave On Tue, Aug 28, 2012 at 10:47 AM, k...@trixtar.org wrote: LillyPond sounds like something really nice, I say sounds like because I haven't been able to print with it yet, or even see a print-preview. I've just installed Musix-2.0, I'm next going to set up the printing on it (wifi net printer). When LillyPond is buggy or missing maybe a simpler other than lillypond print would suffice. It's a real pain to have to do captures and then load them into gimp for even rudimentary printing. The score formatting really should give the composer the option to add/remove measures AND more importantly decide which measures will go on which line (often to follow lyrics for example). I can also think of a situatiion when I may want to later add guitar tabs, so there I would want to control spacing as well as the number of lines to the page to leave room between them. Ditto for the indenting, it seems to be a thing of the past in writing anyway so maybe options are needed? -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Printing staff formatting suggestions
On Tue, 28 Aug 2012 12:15:54 -0400 David Tisdell david.tisd...@gmail.com wrote: Rosegarden uses Lilypond for printing. You should be able to print directly from Rosegarden as long as Lilypond is installed. I use Suse as well. I seem to remember needng to manually install lilypond with a script because i had trouble finding an rpm for suse but it wasn't a big deal. The Suse 2.12.3-8.9 rpm was installed, even updated 2.15.42-6 but every attempt to print with either crashed. So I installed the source 2.16.0-1 from the project site and it's printing ok. Thanks -- Live Security Virtual Conference Exclusive live event will cover all the ways today's security and threat landscape has changed and how IT managers can respond. Discussions will include endpoint security, mobile security and the latest in malware threats. http://www.accelacomm.com/jaw/sfrnl04242012/114/50122263/ ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
