Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost instrument settings

2017-07-23 Thread Abrolag via Rosegarden-user
On Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:16:14 +0100
chuck elliot via Rosegarden-user  wrote:

> Mystery solved! 
> The Korg-M3-GM device is not used in this composition
> but all of the unused RG tracks had defaulted to this device
> so RG was sending out a set of PCs for this device after
> the set for the EDS device. As both are connected to the
> same physical device (midi port), the second set were
> overwriting the first. I don't know where the particular
> GM instrument numbers were coming from (default device?) 
> but they were not relevant to the composition in any case.

Ah yes! Been caught out that way myself :(

> Deleting the GM device resolved the issue and the piece
> now plays properly under v17.12.
> 
> In future, if I have multiple M3 devices connected I will
> ensure that any spare RG tracks are deleted or set to a null device.
> 
> Thanks for all the help. RG is a fantastic resource.
> 
> If anyone reading this thread is interested in hearing the
> piece concerned it is my rendition of a track from Frank Zappa's
> 'Hot Rats' album from 1969 (little Umbrellas).
> 
> https://soundcloud.com/user-869419971/little-umbrellas
> 
> Chuck.

Nice work. Lots of detail in this.

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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost instrument settings

2017-07-23 Thread chuck elliot via Rosegarden-user
Mystery solved! 
The Korg-M3-GM device is not used in this composition
but all of the unused RG tracks had defaulted to this device
so RG was sending out a set of PCs for this device after
the set for the EDS device. As both are connected to the
same physical device (midi port), the second set were
overwriting the first. I don't know where the particular
GM instrument numbers were coming from (default device?) 
but they were not relevant to the composition in any case.

Deleting the GM device resolved the issue and the piece
now plays properly under v17.12.

In future, if I have multiple M3 devices connected I will
ensure that any spare RG tracks are deleted or set to a null device.

Thanks for all the help. RG is a fantastic resource.

If anyone reading this thread is interested in hearing the
piece concerned it is my rendition of a track from Frank Zappa's
'Hot Rats' album from 1969 (little Umbrellas).

https://soundcloud.com/user-869419971/little-umbrellas

Chuck.


On Sun, 2017-07-23 at 09:26 -0400, Ted Felix wrote:
> [Resending because this hasn't appeared on the user list.  Sorry if 
> duplicate...]
> 
> On 07/20/2017 12:15 PM, Ted Felix wrote:
> >Do you have two devices connected to the same port?
> 
>From digging through the .rg file, it appears that you do:
> 
> Korg-M3-GM -> "20:0 E-MU XMidi2X2 MIDI 1 (duplex)"
> Korg-M3-EDS -> "20:0 E-MU XMidi2X2 MIDI 1 (duplex)"
> M1 -> "20:1 E-MU XMidi2X2 MIDI 2 (duplex)"
> 
>This is probably why you are seeing two channel setups going out to 
> the M3 with 16.02.  With later versions, you shouldn't see that.  Or you 
> will only see it where there is a channel conflict in your tracks.  I.e. 
> two tracks pointing to the same channel on the M3 but using the two 
> different devices (Korg-M3-GM and Korg-M3-EDS).
> 
>Limitations in 16.02 make it difficult to do the above.  The only way 
> that comes to my mind is to combine the device files for each.  This was 
> fixed in 16.06 and channel setups only go out for channels that have tracks.
> 
> Ted.



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Re: [Rosegarden-user] Lost instrument settings

2017-07-23 Thread Ted Felix
[Resending because this hasn't appeared on the user list.  Sorry if 
duplicate...]


On 07/20/2017 12:15 PM, Ted Felix wrote:

   Do you have two devices connected to the same port?


  From digging through the .rg file, it appears that you do:

Korg-M3-GM -> "20:0 E-MU XMidi2X2 MIDI 1 (duplex)"
Korg-M3-EDS -> "20:0 E-MU XMidi2X2 MIDI 1 (duplex)"
M1 -> "20:1 E-MU XMidi2X2 MIDI 2 (duplex)"

  This is probably why you are seeing two channel setups going out to 
the M3 with 16.02.  With later versions, you shouldn't see that.  Or you 
will only see it where there is a channel conflict in your tracks.  I.e. 
two tracks pointing to the same channel on the M3 but using the two 
different devices (Korg-M3-GM and Korg-M3-EDS).


  Limitations in 16.02 make it difficult to do the above.  The only way 
that comes to my mind is to combine the device files for each.  This was 
fixed in 16.06 and channel setups only go out for channels that have tracks.


Ted.

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