Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 01/21/2016 12:01 PM, Todd Pierce wrote: > I'll make sure to document the entire process so it's available to > everybody when (arrogant confidence) I'm done. I'm going to schedule a > couple of hours to cry in advance and then get started. I'm the guy who tried the "zero downtime" installation option for Debian. I bootstrapped my next distro from a running Mandrake, chroot'ed into it, installed all the packages (which tied up my telephone line for 36 straight hours), and configured the thing, all from a running distro of a totally foreign nature. It booted! Getting Rosegarden to run on a little ARM box seems like the same spirit of crazy just because, so it immediately earns my respect! :-D -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 01/21/2016 09:33 AM, Lorenzo Sutton wrote: > I ran Cakewalk for DOS on a 386, but we're talking about a midi only > application. Are you talking about cakewalk with audio, VST (or > whatever) synth plugins etc.? I think it had extremely early and rudimentary audio support, but nothing like VSTs or other plugins yet. However, I was just comparing basic MIDI to basic MIDI performance. It used to kill me that Rosegarden would barely function on a 1 GHz machine for doing straight up data pumping through a hardware MIDI interface, which is where this old comparison comes from. Even then, the comparison wasn't fair. That machine and OS wasn't doing any heavy multitasking or low latency anything. The graphics across the board, and especially in Cakewalk, were vastly less sophisticated, and on and on. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 21/01/2016 12:59, D. Michael McIntyre wrote: > On 01/20/2016 06:57 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > >> It should be. However, rg is still somewhat wasteful of CPU, so it >> might not work well. A MIDI sequencer should run fine at 900MHz on a >> single core. I run CakeWalk on an old 1GHz machine with no problems at >> all. Lots of CPU left over. > > I ran Cakewalk on an old 486-33 with no problems at all. Or maybe I was > up to the 486DX4-66 by then. I ran Cakewalk for DOS on a 386, but we're talking about a midi only application. Are you talking about cakewalk with audio, VST (or whatever) synth plugins etc.? Lorenzo. > > Rosegarden is still VASTLY better than it was before all your > optimization work. > -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 01/20/2016 06:57 PM, Ted Felix wrote: > It should be. However, rg is still somewhat wasteful of CPU, so it > might not work well. A MIDI sequencer should run fine at 900MHz on a > single core. I run CakeWalk on an old 1GHz machine with no problems at > all. Lots of CPU left over. I ran Cakewalk on an old 486-33 with no problems at all. Or maybe I was up to the 486DX4-66 by then. Rosegarden is still VASTLY better than it was before all your optimization work. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 01/20/2016 08:00 PM, Abrolag wrote: > As I remember ARM cores manage significantly fewer clock cycles per > instruction, so CPU frequency is not such a reliable guide. Yeah. It's never a reliable guide. You never really know what'll run until you try it. Ted. -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 18:57:11 -0500 Ted Felix wrote: > On 01/20/2016 12:30 PM, Todd Pierce wrote: > > People have been worried that the Pi wouldn't be powerful enough, but don't > > you think that a quad core 900 MHz processor with 1Gb of RAM is good > > enough? > >It should be. However, rg is still somewhat wasteful of CPU, so it > might not work well. A MIDI sequencer should run fine at 900MHz on a > single core. I run CakeWalk on an old 1GHz machine with no problems at > all. Lots of CPU left over. > > Ted. Just poking my nose in (again) As I remember ARM cores manage significantly fewer clock cycles per instruction, so CPU frequency is not such a reliable guide. -- W J G -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 01/20/2016 12:30 PM, Todd Pierce wrote: > People have been worried that the Pi wouldn't be powerful enough, but don't > you think that a quad core 900 MHz processor with 1Gb of RAM is good > enough? It should be. However, rg is still somewhat wasteful of CPU, so it might not work well. A MIDI sequencer should run fine at 900MHz on a single core. I run CakeWalk on an old 1GHz machine with no problems at all. Lots of CPU left over. Ted. -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
Re: [Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
On 01/20/2016 12:30 PM, Todd Pierce wrote: > Forgive me if this has been asked before, but has Rosegarden been ported > to the Raspberry Pi ARM processor? I haven't tried, but I think it's probably pretty straightforward. I've cross-compiled other Qt applications for two different ARM platforms. Building the core application should be quite simple; especially since you can build it from within a running environment. I'm not completely sure about the many dependencies, but it seems likely that they're all achievable. > People have been worried that the Pi wouldn't be powerful enough, but > don't you think that a quad core 900 MHz processor with 1Gb of RAM is > good enough? To test this, I fired Rosegarden up on my rather faster quad core and opened just a stupid number of editor windows. I monitored my CPU activity, and it seemed to be distributed pretty well across the cores. Ted Felix reduced Rosegarden's CPU usage very dramatically since the last time I tested on lower spec hardware. I probably could have managed to make this go a few years ago, and today, the chances are considerably better. I'd go for it. It will probably work. -- D. Michael McIntyre -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140 ___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
[Rosegarden-user] Rosegarden on Raspberry Pi
Hello All, Forgive me if this has been asked before, but has Rosegarden been ported to the Raspberry Pi ARM processor? People have been worried that the Pi wouldn't be powerful enough, but don't you think that a quad core 900 MHz processor with 1Gb of RAM is good enough? Any advice is appreciated. Sincerely, -Todd -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3 App instances at just $35/Month Monitor end-to-end web transactions and take corrective actions now Troubleshoot faster and improve end-user experience. Signup Now! http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/clk?id=267308311&iu=/4140___ Rosegarden-user mailing list Rosegarden-user@lists.sourceforge.net - use the link below to unsubscribe https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/rosegarden-user
