[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 Jussi Lehtola jussi.leht...@iki.fi changed: What|Removed |Added Blocks|2 | Status|NEW |RESOLVED Resolution||INVALID --- Comment #19 from Jussi Lehtola jussi.leht...@iki.fi 2009-05-21 10:51:45 --- me-tv has been approved in Fedora, closing bug. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #15 from Dan Horák d...@danny.cz 2009-02-17 14:25:00 --- (In reply to comment #14) (In reply to comment #10) DVB-? technology uses patented algorithms. It does not matter if the decoder is required by the player (or the library) or by the Me TV application. Users would be confused why the application does not work. User of Fedora usually expects problems with multimedia stuff. Kaffeine's DVB support does not work without xine-lib-extras-freeworld (ask Rex Dieter). But is seems acceptable in this case as the DVB support is only a part of provided functions. All other engines are in the *experimental* state - it is clearly stated in configure.ac (configure); no GUI configuration is provided for experimental engines. You should know it when you package it. The most tested experimental engine is the libvlc based one and it has still several issues. Even the xine based default engine experiences issues towards PulseAudio. The GStreamer based engine is only a start up skeleton. I am fully aware that the status for additional engines is experimental, but few weeks ago they didn't even exist. For me it is a progress into the right direction. And it is to let gstreamer to find the required codec itself via the integration with PackageKit. There are other ways (and even legal the respective countries) to get the codecs besides using stuff from RPM Fusion. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #17 from Lubos Stanek lu...@users.sourceforge.net 2009-02-17 18:43:08 --- This review is getting too long without a solution. You have not modified the package a bit according to my comments. I do not want to prevent Fedora users from enjoying Me TV. Package it the way you want. I can only hope that the potential initial troubles will not discourage them. Please anyone who can approve the package do it if only my comments have prevented it. Users would be confused why the application does not work. User of Fedora usually expects problems with multimedia stuff. You are probably wasting your time in RPMFusion. You can also say that Fedora users are usually able to compile the necessary bits themselves. I vote for the inclusion in the main Fedora repository in such case. All other engines are in the *experimental* state... I am fully aware that the status for additional engines is experimental, but few weeks ago they didn't even exist. For me it is a progress into the right direction. The MPlayer engine was also present in the series 5 for testing purposes. And it is to let gstreamer to find the required codec itself via the integration with PackageKit. There are other ways (and even legal the respective countries) to get the codecs besides using stuff from RPM Fusion. We have discussed it several times with Michael. It is the right way how to do it in the future. And we are modifying the build system to enable the selection of the default engine and to enable or disable other engines to fit distribution and user's needs. Unfortunately the GStreamer engine brings a big problem with the deinterlacer currently. There are several deinterlace filters (in gst-ffmpeg and gst-plugins-bad). Michael said the last time we discussed it that they do not deinterlace video properly. I do not know whether there is a deinterlace filter in the Fluendo codecs package. Anyway the GStreamer engine is only a simple playbin. It stops playing with every stream format change or a signal gap and therefore it is almost unusable for the end user. If you want to include the GStreamer engine you are free to contribute (https://answers.launchpad.net/me-tv/+faq/351). Note: The GStreamer engine is not the default one. If the user does not have already the nasty bits installed, Me TV (xine-ui) does not work for DVB. The Fluendo codecs do not solve the problem of the xine-ui player, they only solve the problem of the license. The user must install the freeworld package for xine-ui anyway. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu changed: What|Removed |Added CC||rdie...@math.unl.edu --- Comment #8 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu 2009-02-09 15:23:59 --- If me-tv is in rpmfusion already, adding Requires: xine-lib-extras-freeworld should be perfectly acceptable -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #9 from Rex Dieter rdie...@math.unl.edu 2009-02-09 15:26:27 --- Shrug, further (small pet-peave of mine), GNOME and for GNOME should probably be stricken from the pkg summary/description. That is, unless this application is genuinely only functional on a gnome desktop? -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #10 from Dan Horák d...@danny.cz 2009-02-09 16:27:16 --- (In reply to comment #8) If me-tv is in rpmfusion already, adding Requires: xine-lib-extras-freeworld should be perfectly acceptable It is not yet in rpmfusion and adding such R: is not a problem. But the situation is now a bit more complicated. Recent versions added support for gstreamer and libxine based output that makes me-tv again a candidate for Fedora. And IMHO gstreamer supports some on-demand mechanism for loading the right codec to decode the multimedia stream. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #11 from Dan Horák d...@danny.cz 2009-02-09 16:29:34 --- (In reply to comment #9) Shrug, further (small pet-peave of mine), GNOME and for GNOME should probably be stricken from the pkg summary/description. That is, unless this application is genuinely only functional on a gnome desktop? If you can test whether it works in KDE, I can remove the word :-) I can only say it is linked with gnome libraries. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #13 from Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at 2009-02-09 17:47:19 --- (or gstreamer-ffmpeg) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #14 from Lubos Stanek lu...@users.sourceforge.net 2009-02-09 18:30:28 --- (In reply to comment #10) DVB-? technology uses patented algorithms. It does not matter if the decoder is required by the player (or the library) or by the Me TV application. Users would be confused why the application does not work. Kaffeine's DVB support does not work without xine-lib-extras-freeworld (ask Rex Dieter). But is seems acceptable in this case as the DVB support is only a part of provided functions. All other engines are in the *experimental* state - it is clearly stated in configure.ac (configure); no GUI configuration is provided for experimental engines. You should know it when you package it. The most tested experimental engine is the libvlc based one and it has still several issues. Even the xine based default engine experiences issues towards PulseAudio. The GStreamer based engine is only a start up skeleton. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #5 from Dan Horák d...@danny.cz 2009-01-09 14:49:05 --- (In reply to comment #4) This application processes and displays the DVB-T/C/S... content. From what I know, the video content is typically compressed using MPEG-2 and H.264 (MPEG-4) codec and transported in the MPEG transport stream - e.g. no free codecs at all. That's quite strong reason for RPMFusion. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #3 from Dan Horák d...@danny.cz 2009-01-04 15:09:03 --- (In reply to comment #1) Well, xine should move to Fedora instead, +1 and I am willing to do the review :-) -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #1 from Kevin Kofler kevin.kof...@chello.at 2009-01-04 14:21:41 --- Well, xine should move to Fedora instead, we've had xine-lib in Fedora for ages so I really don't see why xine is still in RPM Fusion. -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
[Bug 299] Review request: me-tv - Digital television viewer for GNOME
http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=299 --- Comment #2 from Thorsten Leemhuis fed...@leemhuis.info 2009-01-04 14:34:31 --- (In reply to comment #1) Well, xine should move to Fedora instead, +1 we've had xine-lib in Fedora for ages so I really don't see why xine is still in RPM Fusion. Simply because nobody did it. It was iirc mentioned multiple times on the list that is should be moved, but well, nobody stepped forward to do it -- Configure bugmail: http://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/userprefs.cgi?tab=email --- You are receiving this mail because: --- You are on the CC list for the bug. You are the assignee for the bug.
