Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
Dnia Sat, May 22, 2021 at 05:29:05PM +0200, Marcus Müller napisał(a): > Hey, > > On 22.05.21 10:54, Kevin Kofler via rpmfusion-developers wrote: > > Those cards are well-supported by the Nouveau driver by now, aren't they? > > I roughly once every half year do a test of nouveau, and sadly it's still got > crashes and > the occasional display problem. Also, can't get nouveau to work with 2× > 2560px wide, nor > could I do that with CUDA, which is the only reason I have relatively beefy > GPUs. As the thread started from Phoronix citation, let's continue: there's allegely new open-source GPU driver coming. The vendor is undisclosed at the moment, but it may be NVIDIA: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Big-New-Driver-Coming -- Tomasz Torcz “If you try to upissue this patchset I shall be seeking to...@pipebreaker.pl an IP-routable hand grenade.” — Andrew Morton (LKML) ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
Hey, On 22.05.21 10:54, Kevin Kofler via rpmfusion-developers wrote: > Those cards are well-supported by the Nouveau driver by now, aren't they? I roughly once every half year do a test of nouveau, and sadly it's still got crashes and the occasional display problem. Also, can't get nouveau to work with 2× 2560px wide, nor could I do that with CUDA, which is the only reason I have relatively beefy GPUs. Cheers, Marcus ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
--- Begin Message --- On 22.05.2021 10:54, Kevin Kofler wrote: Those cards are well-supported by the Nouveau driver by now, aren't they? No. nouveau causes system hangs on most of NVIDIA cards. Proprietary drivers for the all NVIDIA cards are mandatory. -- Sincerely, Vitaly Zaitsev (vit...@easycoding.org) ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org --- End Message ---
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:02 AM Kevin Kofler via rpmfusion-developers wrote: > > Those cards are well-supported by the Nouveau driver by now, aren't they? > Perhaps the largest shortcoming is that there is no automated voltage and re-clocking (for the core and/or memory) support based on GPU requirements and thermal headroom (the GPU and memory start at lower power base clock speeds). Manual adjustments are reasonably well supported via debugfs, but it is still a manual process at this point and last I looked is still marked as "incomplete" and "experimental" by the developers (and apparently certain combinations of settings can result in GPU hangs/corruption or even overheating damage). There has been repeated talk about someone (i.e. the random someone else who does not actually exist) writing some sort of GPU governor, but it has never happened. That certainly makes the experience of using those cards far less than optimal for some, driving those to the proprietary driver (they want something that just work). ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 9:02 AM Kevin Kofler via rpmfusion-developers wrote: > > Those cards are well-supported by the Nouveau driver by now, aren't they? > Perhaps the largest shortcoming is that there is no automated voltage and re-clocking (for the core and/or memory) support based on GPU requirements and thermal headroom (the GPU and memory start at lower power base clock speeds). Manual adjustments are reasonably well supported via debugfs, but it is still a manual process at this point and last I looked is still marked as "incomplete" and "experimental" by the developers (and apparently certain combinations of settings can result in GPU hangs/corruption or even overheating damage). There has been repeated talk about someone (i.e. the random someone else who does not actually exist) writing some sort of GPU governor, but it has never happened. That certainly makes the experience of using those cards far less than optimal for some, driving those to the proprietary driver (they want something that just work). ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
Yes they supported and include power management. On 22/05/2021 09:54, Kevin Kofler via rpmfusion-developers wrote: ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
--- Begin Message --- Leigh Scott wrote: > nvidia-470.xx will be the last release to support GTX 600/700 Series > Kepler cards. > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-470-Ends-Kepler > > I don't intend to do 470.xx support, someone else will need to do a review > and maintenance of it Those cards are well-supported by the Nouveau driver by now, aren't they? Kevin Kofler ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org --- End Message ---
Re: NVIDIA 470 Series To Be The Last Supporting GTX 600/700 Series Kepler.
Nvidia, as usual, has excellent timing in face of their Linux-based customers. Good time to shut down support of a popular series (grml, got multiple of these for ML/DNN reasons) when replacement cards that are actually wider in stream processors are virtually unobtainable. Can't do the maintenance myself. Honestly, NV should probably pay someone to do the rpmfusion packaging¹. Seeing that won't happen in all likelihood... anyone willing to do it if e.g. a funding drive promises a minimum yearly amount of recurring payment? Best regards, Marcus ¹ Which reminded me to donate a few Euros to https://www.paypal.me/rpmfusion On 21.05.21 15:36, Leigh Scott wrote: > nvidia-470.xx will be the last release to support GTX 600/700 Series Kepler > cards. > > https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NVIDIA-470-Ends-Kepler > > I don't intend to do 470.xx support, someone else will need to do a review > and maintenance of it > ___ > rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org > To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org > ___ rpmfusion-developers mailing list -- rpmfusion-developers@lists.rpmfusion.org To unsubscribe send an email to rpmfusion-developers-le...@lists.rpmfusion.org