Speeding up rsync

2021-08-24 Thread hancooper via rsync




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On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:40 PM, Kevin Korb  wrote:

> Most of the speedup is due to ssh being bound to a single CPU. You will
> get a little more speed out of a single CPU system but the speedup is
> unlikely to go past 2 in parallel. Even with that you may end up adding
> more latency via disk seeks to accomplish much.


I could run multiple instances of rsync for different parts of the transfer,
and throw them to multiple backup hosts.



> On 8/24/21 5:12 PM, hancooper wrote:
>
> > ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> > On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 8:25 PM, Kevin Korb via rsync 
> > rsync@lists.samba.org wrote:
> >
> > > In my experience backing up multiple hosts to a single host can speed
> > > things up. Especially if using rsync over ssh with multiple CPUs on the
> > > single host. You would need to do some experimentation to determine the
> > > best number for your hardware and network. Also, if you exceed that
> > > number you can put more stress on the backup machine lessening the
> > > impact to the hosts being backed up.
> > > On 8/24/21 3:58 PM, hancooper via rsync wrote:
> > >
> > > > It makes sense to we to run multiple rsync commands to speed up a 
> > > > backup.
> > > > At work, some have argued that if I sync the data all to the same host,
> > > > there is no advantage
> > > > in parallelization.   Whether you sync 3x 1G in parallel or 1x 3G makes
> > > > no noticeable difference.
> > > > Speed in general does not increase by increasing the number of sync
> > > > processes.
> > > > However, if one want to sync to multiple hosts, the effort may be
> > > > worthwhile.
> > > > What is the current advice about speeding up data transfer ?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853
> >
> > Hi Kevin. What about a single host to another with multiple CPU's ?
>
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Re: Speeding up rsync

2021-08-24 Thread Kevin Korb via rsync
Most of the speedup is due to ssh being bound to a single CPU.  You will
get a little more speed out of a single CPU system but the speedup is
unlikely to go past 2 in parallel.  Even with that you may end up adding
more latency via disk seeks to accomplish much.

On 8/24/21 5:12 PM, hancooper wrote:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 8:25 PM, Kevin Korb via rsync 
>  wrote:
> 
>> In my experience backing up multiple hosts to a single host can speed
>> things up. Especially if using rsync over ssh with multiple CPUs on the
>> single host. You would need to do some experimentation to determine the
>> best number for your hardware and network. Also, if you exceed that
>> number you can put more stress on the backup machine lessening the
>> impact to the hosts being backed up.
>>
>> On 8/24/21 3:58 PM, hancooper via rsync wrote:
>>
>>> It makes sense to we to run multiple rsync commands to speed up a backup.
>>> At work, some have argued that if I sync the data all to the same host,
>>> there is no advantage
>>> in parallelization.   Whether you sync 3x 1G in parallel or 1x 3G makes
>>> no noticeable difference.
>>> Speed in general does not increase by increasing the number of sync
>>> processes.
>>> However, if one want to sync to multiple hosts, the effort may be
>>> worthwhile.
>>> What is the current advice about speeding up data transfer ?
>>
>> --
>> Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853
> 
> 
> Hi Kevin.  What about a single host to another with multiple CPU's ?
> 

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Speeding up rsync

2021-08-24 Thread hancooper via rsync
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 9:12 PM, hancooper via rsync 
 wrote:

> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 8:25 PM, Kevin Korb via rsync 
> rsync@lists.samba.org wrote:
>
> > In my experience backing up multiple hosts to a single host can speed
> > things up. Especially if using rsync over ssh with multiple CPUs on the
> > single host. You would need to do some experimentation to determine the
> > best number for your hardware and network. Also, if you exceed that
> > number you can put more stress on the backup machine lessening the
> > impact to the hosts being backed up.
> > On 8/24/21 3:58 PM, hancooper via rsync wrote:
> >
> > > It makes sense to we to run multiple rsync commands to speed up a backup.
> > > At work, some have argued that if I sync the data all to the same host,
> > > there is no advantage
> > > in parallelization.   Whether you sync 3x 1G in parallel or 1x 3G makes
> > > no noticeable difference.
> > > Speed in general does not increase by increasing the number of sync
> > > processes.
> > > However, if one want to sync to multiple hosts, the effort may be
> > > worthwhile.
> > > What is the current advice about speeding up data transfer ?
> >
> > --
> > Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853
>
> Hi Kevin. What about a single host to another with multiple CPU's ?


rsync really needs a lot of CPU power.  It is not so much disk-bound
(as many conclude against using multiple processes), but cpu-bound.




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Re: Speeding up rsync

2021-08-24 Thread hancooper via rsync
‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Tuesday, August 24, 2021 8:25 PM, Kevin Korb via rsync 
 wrote:

> In my experience backing up multiple hosts to a single host can speed
> things up. Especially if using rsync over ssh with multiple CPUs on the
> single host. You would need to do some experimentation to determine the
> best number for your hardware and network. Also, if you exceed that
> number you can put more stress on the backup machine lessening the
> impact to the hosts being backed up.
>
> On 8/24/21 3:58 PM, hancooper via rsync wrote:
>
> > It makes sense to we to run multiple rsync commands to speed up a backup.
> > At work, some have argued that if I sync the data all to the same host,
> > there is no advantage
> > in parallelization.   Whether you sync 3x 1G in parallel or 1x 3G makes
> > no noticeable difference.
> > Speed in general does not increase by increasing the number of sync
> > processes.
> > However, if one want to sync to multiple hosts, the effort may be
> > worthwhile.
> > What is the current advice about speeding up data transfer ?
>
> --
> Kevin Korb Phone: (407) 252-6853


Hi Kevin.  What about a single host to another with multiple CPU's ?

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Re: Speeding up rsync

2021-08-24 Thread Kevin Korb via rsync
In my experience backing up multiple hosts to a single host can speed
things up.  Especially if using rsync over ssh with multiple CPUs on the
single host.  You would need to do some experimentation to determine the
best number for your hardware and network.  Also, if you exceed that
number you can put more stress on the backup machine lessening the
impact to the hosts being backed up.

On 8/24/21 3:58 PM, hancooper via rsync wrote:
> It makes sense to we to run multiple rsync commands to speed up a backup.
> 
> At work, some have argued that if I sync the data all to the same host,
> there is no advantage
> in parallelization.   Whether you sync 3x 1G in parallel or 1x 3G makes
> no noticeable difference.
> 
> Speed in general does not increase by increasing the number of sync
> processes.
> 
> However, if one want to sync to multiple hosts, the effort may be
> worthwhile.
> 
> What is the current advice about speeding up data transfer ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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Speeding up rsync

2021-08-24 Thread hancooper via rsync
It makes sense to we to run multiple rsync commands to speed up a backup.

At work, some have argued that if I sync the data all to the same host, there 
is no advantage
in parallelization. Whether you sync 3x 1G in parallel or 1x 3G makes no 
noticeable difference.

Speed in general does not increase by increasing the number of sync processes.

However, if one want to sync to multiple hosts, the effort may be worthwhile.

What is the current advice about speeding up data transfer ?-- 
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