Re: Intermittent rsync Issues

2010-09-21 Thread J. T. Gray
Izidor, this appears to resolve my problem.  Thank you for your input, I
will be sure to attribute you on serverfault.com when I add an answer to my
question post.


On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 2:49 AM, Izidor Jerebic ij.l...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 this might be a problem with maximal number of concurrent ssh connections
 or connection requests. Ssh daemon has two configuration settings where you
 can define what is the maximal number of clients which can connect
 concurrently. This number is by default not very high, so you are probably
 bumping against that limit.

 MaxSessions

 Specifies the maximum number of open sessions permitted per
 net-
 work connection.  The default is 10.


 MaxStartups

 Specifies the maximum number of concurrent unauthenticated con-
 nections to the SSH daemon.  Additional connections will be
 dropped until authentication succeeds or the LoginGraceTime
 expires for a connection.  The default is 10.
 Alternatively, random early drop can be enabled by specifying
 the
 three colon separated values ``start:rate:full'' (e.g.
 10:30:60).  sshd(8) will refuse connection attempts with a
 probability of ``rate/100'' (30%) if there are currently
 ``start'' (10) unauthenticated connections.  The probability
 increases linearly and all connection attempts are refused if
 the
 number of unauthenticated connections reaches ``full'' (60).


 izidor

 On 20.9.2010, at 19:19, J. T. Gray wrote:

  Greetings,
 
  I posted this at serverfault, but in hopes that the people on this list
 are different from the people there, here it is:
 
  Update: 9/20/10: Updated the EC2 AMI on both the client and the server
 and ran a 3-box test with 2 clients downloading from 1 server over 24 hours.
 Upon test completion, the logs had zero errors so I began replacing other
 instances with the updated AMI instances. After a weekend of running the
 35-40ish clients, I have logs once again filled with:
 
  2010/09/20 16:27:01 [18581] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data
 stream (code 12) at io.c(601) [Receiver=3.0.7] 2010/09/20 16:30:01 [18627]
 rsync error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601)
  Is it unreasonable to have 35-40 clients connect to an rsync server
 simultaneously? Is this possibly a load issue?
 
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:04 AM, J. T. Gray j...@intarcorp.com wrote:
  Added --bwlimit=150 at 10:58, had a success at 10:59, failure at 11:00,
 and success at 11:01.
 
  It takes about 1.7s to execute the rsync command, for what that's worth.
 
  That it seems to fail immediately suggests it's something
 connection-related, but that it fails on rsh and ssh both suggests it's
 something specific to the client app.  I'm currently updating my EC2 image
 to see if it's specific to the build of Ubuntu I'm using.
 
 
 
 
  On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mac User FR macuse...@free.fr wrote:
  Already tried --bwlimit. In my case it didn't change the error. It just
 slowed down the identical file recognition. But when it came to a file
 modified from what exist on the backup server, it dropped the connection.
 
  Thanks anyway for the help!
 
  Vitorio
 
  Le 16 sept. 10 à 15:56, Paul Slootman a écrit :
 
 
  On Thu 16 Sep 2010, Mac User FR wrote:
 
  I read somewhere that the ssh connection was stronger than rsync one
  in unstable networks. And effectively, if I run rsync via ssh ( -e
  option), the transfer happen without errors, on the same computer
  using the same networking setup.
 
  I wouldn't be surprised that the extra overhead related to ssh slows the
  transfer sufficiently to make a flakey network connection not give up.
  Perhaps try rate-limiting the rsync transfer.
 
 
  Paul
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Re: Intermittent rsync Issues

2010-09-20 Thread J. T. Gray
Greetings,

I posted this at serverfault, but in hopes that the people on this list are
different from the people there, here it is:

Update: 9/20/10: Updated the EC2 AMI on both the client and the server and
ran a 3-box test with 2 clients downloading from 1 server over 24 hours.
Upon test completion, the logs had zero errors so I began replacing other
instances with the updated AMI instances. After a weekend of running the
35-40ish clients, I have logs once again filled with:
2010/09/20 16:27:01 [18581] rsync error: error in rsync protocol data stream
(code 12) at io.c(601) [Receiver=3.0.7] 2010/09/20 16:30:01 [18627] rsync
error: unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601)

Is it unreasonable to have 35-40 clients connect to an rsync server
simultaneously? Is this possibly a load issue?




On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 11:04 AM, J. T. Gray j...@intarcorp.com wrote:

 Added --bwlimit=150 at 10:58, had a success at 10:59, failure at 11:00, and
 success at 11:01.

 It takes about 1.7s to execute the rsync command, for what that's worth.

 That it seems to fail immediately suggests it's something
 connection-related, but that it fails on rsh and ssh both suggests it's
 something specific to the client app.  I'm currently updating my EC2 image
 to see if it's specific to the build of Ubuntu I'm using.




 On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mac User FR macuse...@free.fr wrote:

 Already tried --bwlimit. In my case it didn't change the error. It just
 slowed down the identical file recognition. But when it came to a file
 modified from what exist on the backup server, it dropped the connection.

 Thanks anyway for the help!

 Vitorio

 Le 16 sept. 10 à 15:56, Paul Slootman a écrit :


  On Thu 16 Sep 2010, Mac User FR wrote:

  I read somewhere that the ssh connection was stronger than rsync one
 in unstable networks. And effectively, if I run rsync via ssh ( -e
 option), the transfer happen without errors, on the same computer
 using the same networking setup.


 I wouldn't be surprised that the extra overhead related to ssh slows the
 transfer sufficiently to make a flakey network connection not give up.
 Perhaps try rate-limiting the rsync transfer.


 Paul
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Re: Intermittent rsync Issues

2010-09-16 Thread J. T. Gray
Added --bwlimit=150 at 10:58, had a success at 10:59, failure at 11:00, and
success at 11:01.

It takes about 1.7s to execute the rsync command, for what that's worth.

That it seems to fail immediately suggests it's something
connection-related, but that it fails on rsh and ssh both suggests it's
something specific to the client app.  I'm currently updating my EC2 image
to see if it's specific to the build of Ubuntu I'm using.



On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Mac User FR macuse...@free.fr wrote:

 Already tried --bwlimit. In my case it didn't change the error. It just
 slowed down the identical file recognition. But when it came to a file
 modified from what exist on the backup server, it dropped the connection.

 Thanks anyway for the help!

 Vitorio

 Le 16 sept. 10 à 15:56, Paul Slootman a écrit :


  On Thu 16 Sep 2010, Mac User FR wrote:

  I read somewhere that the ssh connection was stronger than rsync one
 in unstable networks. And effectively, if I run rsync via ssh ( -e
 option), the transfer happen without errors, on the same computer
 using the same networking setup.


 I wouldn't be surprised that the extra overhead related to ssh slows the
 transfer sufficiently to make a flakey network connection not give up.
 Perhaps try rate-limiting the rsync transfer.


 Paul
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Intermittent rsync Issues

2010-09-15 Thread J. T. Gray
Greetings,

I posted this to a couple online forums already am am already doubting
anyone will be able to directly help me solve my problems.  So I am here to
query the experts directly:

 I have a number of rsync clients trying to connect to an rsync server
 routinely, and they're intermittently failing with one of a couple error
 messages.

 Either:

 2010/09/15 13:45:23 [32143] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes
 received so far) [Receiver] 2010/09/15 13:45:23 [32143] rsync error:
 unexplained error (code 255) at io.c(601) [Receiver=3.0.7]

 Or:

 2010/09/15 13:40:01 [7617] rsync: connection unexpectedly closed (0 bytes
 received so far) [Receiver] 2010/09/15 13:40:01 [7617] rsync error: error in
 rsync protocol data stream (code 12) at io.c(601) [Receiver=3.0.7]

 The current version of the rsync command I'm using is:

 rsync --rsync-path=/usr/bin/rsync --stats --compress --times --links
 --log-file=/home/ubuntu/rsynclog.txt --exclude thatfile --recursive
 xxx.xx.xxx.xx:/home/ubuntu/utility_scripts/ /home/ubuntu/utility_scripts 

 I previously had --verbose and --progress but removed them after reading on
 another forum that someone had resolved some latency issues by removing
 those options. I've also tried this command in the form of a shell script,
 thinking perhaps the issue was that my rsync client was attempting to reuse
 an expired ssh connection. To that end, it fails seemingly at random whether
 using rsh or ssh. It periodically fails whether or not I do --del or
 --delete, --compress or not, --rsync-path or not.

 I cannot get the command to fail from the command line, but when it runs
 every minute, it fails 5-15 times an hour, depending on the directory being
 rsync'ed. The permissions and ownership appear to all be correct, and I'm
 not relying on any sort of environmental variables that would be causing the
 cron to fail. All of the relevant software packages (bash, rsync, ssh,
 Linux) are up to date, all key ports are open, and all clients do not fail
 simultaneously, suggesting this is not a server-side problem.

If anyone has any constructive feedback for resolving or troubleshooting
this/these issue/s, I am very interested in hearing it.

Thanks,
JTG
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