Re: ignore mtime - or any metadata
I can't say I have tried it but -pog would all also result in duplicating files (assuming they are different). On 9/25/22 14:49, Hardy via rsync wrote: Thanks Kevin, -a implies rlptgoD and I obviously used it by comfort and habit. Omitting -t (and perhaps also gop, not really needed) might solve my problem? Will give it a try. Am 25.09.22 um 20:30 schrob Kevin Korb via rsync: -a is telling rsync to copy the metadata. --size-only is telling rsync to skip the contents of files that are the same time. Without --link-dest rsync would just update the metadata on the target. However, with --link-dest rsync is being told to make the same file with 2 different metadatas. It can only do so by duplicating the file (effectively the same as --copy-dest). On 9/25/22 14:26, Hardy via rsync wrote: Hi, SHORT: rsync shall ignore differences in meta (inode) data, but does not even with --size-only. -- If in combination with --link-dest. Is there any flag I missed? EXPLANATION: I use rsync -avbuH --size-only --stats --delete-excluded --link-dest=/path/to/last "user@system:Shared/Data" /path/to/now to sync backup-style and use the --link-dest option to minimize traffic (and space) and still have a full backup each time. So far nothing special. Now it happens that at the source side data changes are moderate, but meta information (like atime, mtime) do change a lot. I didn't find a solution to make rsync ignore these differences to use a link. --size-only and -t (implied by -a) work ok with a simple syncs, but obviously (for me) it does not in combination with --link-dest. I can understand the motivation behind this: rsync is not allowed to change meta data of the existing inode, nor can it neglect the change - or can it? Hardy -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._., Kevin Korb Phone:(407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. ke...@futurequest.net (work) Orlando, Floridak...@sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: https://sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._., -- Please use reply-all for most replies to avoid omitting the mailing list. To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Re: ignore mtime - or any metadata
Thanks Kevin, -a implies rlptgoD and I obviously used it by comfort and habit. Omitting -t (and perhaps also gop, not really needed) might solve my problem? Will give it a try. Am 25.09.22 um 20:30 schrob Kevin Korb via rsync: -a is telling rsync to copy the metadata. --size-only is telling rsync to skip the contents of files that are the same time. Without --link-dest rsync would just update the metadata on the target. However, with --link-dest rsync is being told to make the same file with 2 different metadatas. It can only do so by duplicating the file (effectively the same as --copy-dest). On 9/25/22 14:26, Hardy via rsync wrote: Hi, SHORT: rsync shall ignore differences in meta (inode) data, but does not even with --size-only. -- If in combination with --link-dest. Is there any flag I missed? EXPLANATION: I use rsync -avbuH --size-only --stats --delete-excluded --link-dest=/path/to/last "user@system:Shared/Data" /path/to/now to sync backup-style and use the --link-dest option to minimize traffic (and space) and still have a full backup each time. So far nothing special. Now it happens that at the source side data changes are moderate, but meta information (like atime, mtime) do change a lot. I didn't find a solution to make rsync ignore these differences to use a link. --size-only and -t (implied by -a) work ok with a simple syncs, but obviously (for me) it does not in combination with --link-dest. I can understand the motivation behind this: rsync is not allowed to change meta data of the existing inode, nor can it neglect the change - or can it? Hardy -- Please use reply-all for most replies to avoid omitting the mailing list. To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Re: ignore mtime - or any metadata
-a is telling rsync to copy the metadata. --size-only is telling rsync to skip the contents of files that are the same time. Without --link-dest rsync would just update the metadata on the target. However, with --link-dest rsync is being told to make the same file with 2 different metadatas. It can only do so by duplicating the file (effectively the same as --copy-dest). On 9/25/22 14:26, Hardy via rsync wrote: Hi, SHORT: rsync shall ignore differences in meta (inode) data, but does not even with --size-only. -- If in combination with --link-dest. Is there any flag I missed? EXPLANATION: I use rsync -avbuH --size-only --stats --delete-excluded --link-dest=/path/to/last "user@system:Shared/Data" /path/to/now to sync backup-style and use the --link-dest option to minimize traffic (and space) and still have a full backup each time. So far nothing special. Now it happens that at the source side data changes are moderate, but meta information (like atime, mtime) do change a lot. I didn't find a solution to make rsync ignore these differences to use a link. --size-only and -t (implied by -a) work ok with a simple syncs, but obviously (for me) it does not in combination with --link-dest. I can understand the motivation behind this: rsync is not allowed to change meta data of the existing inode, nor can it neglect the change - or can it? Hardy -- ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._., Kevin Korb Phone:(407) 252-6853 Systems Administrator Internet: FutureQuest, Inc. ke...@futurequest.net (work) Orlando, Floridak...@sanitarium.net (personal) Web page: https://sanitarium.net/ PGP public key available on web site. ~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._.,-*~'`^`'~*-,._., -- Please use reply-all for most replies to avoid omitting the mailing list. To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
ignore mtime - or any metadata
Hi, SHORT: rsync shall ignore differences in meta (inode) data, but does not even with --size-only. -- If in combination with --link-dest. Is there any flag I missed? EXPLANATION: I use rsync -avbuH --size-only --stats --delete-excluded --link-dest=/path/to/last "user@system:Shared/Data" /path/to/now to sync backup-style and use the --link-dest option to minimize traffic (and space) and still have a full backup each time. So far nothing special. Now it happens that at the source side data changes are moderate, but meta information (like atime, mtime) do change a lot. I didn't find a solution to make rsync ignore these differences to use a link. --size-only and -t (implied by -a) work ok with a simple syncs, but obviously (for me) it does not in combination with --link-dest. I can understand the motivation behind this: rsync is not allowed to change meta data of the existing inode, nor can it neglect the change - or can it? Hardy -- Please use reply-all for most replies to avoid omitting the mailing list. To unsubscribe or change options: https://lists.samba.org/mailman/listinfo/rsync Before posting, read: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
