Re: [rt-users] BUG: 3.8.4 won't install due to irrelevant standalone dependancies

2009-07-23 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 01:46:23PM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote:
> Thanks for the great work so far, but please document this stuff so  
> that we can help.

We'd love to have more help with documentation. If you're up for
updating the wiki with new information, we're always happy to answer
questions.  

If you have a commercial need for me or folks who work with me to do
or document something for you, that can certainly be arranged.

Complaining about dependency bloat because you don't understand a
feature is very, very offputting. If you read the Installation or
Development Topics sections of RT Essentials, you'll certainly see a bit
about how you might use the standalone webserver.
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Re: [rt-users] BUG: 3.8.4 won't install due to irrelevant standalone dependancies

2009-07-23 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jul 23, 2009, at 1:40 PM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
>> And okay, I'll accept that answer if there was any documentation
>> explaining both how this helps, and how to use it ourselves...
>
> You'd do better at engaging with developers if you were a little less
> combative.


I am trying to help.  But at the moment I mostly just lose hour after  
hour trying to figure out stuff that's in your brain, but not  
explained anywhere.   So every time I sit down to work on RT problems,  
I end up exhausted and having wasted the time I could have spent doing  
something useful.

Thanks for the great work so far, but please document this stuff so  
that we can help.

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Re: [rt-users] BUG: 3.8.4 won't install due to irrelevant standalone dependancies

2009-07-23 Thread Jesse Vincent



> Doesn't RT doesn't have enough perl module bloat?
> 
> And okay, I'll accept that answer if there was any documentation  
> explaining both how this helps, and how to use it ourselves...
>

You'd do better at engaging with developers if you were a little less
combative.
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Re: [rt-users] BUG: 3.8.4 won't install due to irrelevant standalone dependancies

2009-07-23 Thread Jo Rhett
On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:48 AM, Jesse Vincent wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:22:19AM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote:
>> I've confirmed that this is a bug.   STANDALONE is defined as default
>> 1, but never disabled when modperl2 or anything else is checked.
>
> We want it installed by default, as it's invaluable in debugging and
> triage when your live, production RT is broken

Doesn't RT doesn't have enough perl module bloat?

And okay, I'll accept that answer if there was any documentation  
explaining both how this helps, and how to use it ourselves...

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Re: [rt-users] BUG: 3.8.4 won't install due to irrelevant standalone dependancies

2009-07-23 Thread Jesse Vincent



On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 11:22:19AM -0700, Jo Rhett wrote:
> I've confirmed that this is a bug.   STANDALONE is defined as default  
> 1, but never disabled when modperl2 or anything else is checked.

We want it installed by default, as it's invaluable in debugging and
triage when your live, production RT is broken.

> 
> On Jul 23, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Jo Rhett wrote:
> > I'm not trying to run RT standalone, why does it refuse to install  
> > due to missing standalone dependancies?
> >
> > SOME DEPENDENCIES WERE MISSING.
> > STANDALONE missing dependencies:
> >HTTP::Server::Simple >= 0.34...MISSING
> >HTTP::Server::Simple::Mason >= 0.09...MISSING
> > *** Error code 1
> >
> > My entire configure line is ./configure --with-db-type=mysql --with- 
> > my-user-group --with-db-dba=root --with-db-database=rt --with-web- 
> > handler=modperl2 --with-db-rt-user=rt --with-db-rt-pass=hereilie -- 
> > prefix=/u/rtweb/rt38 --with-apachectl=/usr/local/sbin/apachectl
> >
> > -- 
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> > and other randomness
> >
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