Re:[RollTideFan]SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jeff Todd]

Jason,

Isn't the man sworn to uphold the state constitution?

Slef E.

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> ~~~We were guaranteed that government would stay out
of religeon [sic]...~~~
>
> And how exactly does Roy Moore placing a 5,000-pound
monument inscribed with
> the 10 Commandments in the state court building, and
basically stating that
> he will abide by those 10 rules in making state legal
decisions, represent
> "government staying out of religion?
>
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Re: [RollTideFan]SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jason Houston]

~~~We were guaranteed that government would stay out of religeon [sic]...~~~

And how exactly does Roy Moore placing a 5,000-pound monument inscribed with
the 10 Commandments in the state court building, and basically stating that
he will abide by those 10 rules in making state legal decisions, represent
"government staying out of religion?


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Re: [RollTideFan]SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Joe Goodson]

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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Our nation was founded by Pilgrims searching for religeous freedom.  We were
guaranteed that government would stay out of religeon, not keep religeon out
of government.  This country grew from the seed of religeon.  Like it or
not.

The aclu should be outlawed and sent to Red China.  They would feel right at
home since it is a commie organization.

Joe



>
> Our nation has been set up such that GOVERNMENT shouldn't endorse, tacitly
> or openly, any ONE religion, thus guaranteeing freedom for ALL religions.
>
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Re:[RollTideFan]SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jeff Todd]

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> > Isn't he the Lessor of the building? And are you
certain that he doesn't
> have that right?
>
> I don't think he's the Lessor any more than I am the
Lessor of the building
> I work in. He's merely employed by the state--he
doesn't have any power over
> the building, that I'm aware of.

I believe you are mistaken, but I don't have links to
support otherwise at this moment. Tomorrow I will do a
better job.

> As to the state constitution, I agree with that, to a
point. I wish we had
> the sovereign power in the state to set our own
course on such matters, but
> since that little skirmish in the 1860's didn't go
our way, we are
> subservient to the Federal courts, for better or
worse, and the monument
> violates the U.S. Constitution, as (I would bet) the
U.S. Supreme Court will
> rule.
>
> And the U.S. Supreme Court has the final say in all
legal matters in the
> U.S.A., as it stands now.

I'll leave you with this to chew on for the time being:

"The powers not delegated to the United States by the
Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are
reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."


> Again, JMO...interesting discussion.

Likewise.

Sleffie




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Re: [RollTideFan]SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jason Houston]

> Isn't he the Lessor of the building? And are you certain that he doesn't
have that right?

I don't think he's the Lessor any more than I am the Lessor of the building
I work in. He's merely employed by the state--he doesn't have any power over
the building, that I'm aware of.

As to the state constitution, I agree with that, to a point. I wish we had
the sovereign power in the state to set our own course on such matters, but
since that little skirmish in the 1860's didn't go our way, we are
subservient to the Federal courts, for better or worse, and the monument
violates the U.S. Constitution, as (I would bet) the U.S. Supreme Court will
rule.

And the U.S. Supreme Court has the final say in all legal matters in the
U.S.A., as it stands now.

Again, JMO...interesting discussion.




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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court RejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Joe Goodson]

Mee two.
"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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> I hope Roy gets nominated and confirmed to the US
> Supreme Court before he's up for re-election.
>
> Slef E.
>
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> > - Original Message -
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> > > That's some great news .  Now  if we could only
> remove that slapnut from
> > > office   :)
> >
> > Remove, Hell! Mark this in the archives,
> > He'll be re-elected.  :-O
> >
> > ScR
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Re: [RollTideFan]SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jeff Todd]

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> ~~~But my feelings don't matter because Moore has the
right to do that. Just
> like he has the right to put that monument of the Ten
Commandments in there,
> hang Daniel Moore paintings on the walls, etc. Now if
someone can convince
> me that Moore doesn't have that right, then I'll look
at it differently. As
> it stands now, all I see is a person's rights being
taken away from them.~~~
>
> How is it his right to put up a religious monument in
a state judicial
> building?

Where is it written that he DOES NOT have that right?

> What if you were standing in front of Judge Muhammed
Achmed, accused of some
> crime and sentenced to death...and you were an avowed
Christian, and Judge
> Achmed was a devout Muslim who had placed a large
monument to the Koran in
> the lobby and basically said that he would base all
his legal decisions on
> that Koran?

If Judge Muhammed Achmed's state constitution
stated:"We, the people of the State of Alabama, in
order to establish justice, insure domestic
tranquility, and secure the blessings of liberty to
ourselves and our posterity, invoking the favor and
guidance of Almighty Allah, do ordain and establish the
following Constitution and form of government for the
State of Alabama"...then I'd say I was pretty well
fucked.


> Our nation has been set up such that GOVERNMENT
shouldn't endorse, tacitly
> or openly, any ONE religion, thus guaranteeing
freedom for ALL religions.

Then explain the wording of the state constitution.

> The building isn't Moore's personal quarters--it's
OUR building. He has no
> right to move in and decorate it as he wishes.

Isn't he the Lessor of the building? And are you
certain that he doesn't have that right?

> JMO...

Same here, bro.

JT

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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[Joe Goodson]

In my book, it would rank right up there with getting too much money back
for change in a drive thru.
What to do.what to do.

"Any man who is under 30, and is not a liberal, has no heart; and any man
who is over 30, and is not a conservative, has no brains."
- Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)
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Subject: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?


> Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks of chicken kabobs
which
> had been made by the meat market. The prices on one stack was $8-10 per
> package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork neck bones and
priced
> at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be stealing to buy the
> mis-labeled packages?.
>
> Charlie
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] SupremeCourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jason Houston]

~~~But my feelings don't matter because Moore has the right to do that. Just
like he has the right to put that monument of the Ten Commandments in there,
hang Daniel Moore paintings on the walls, etc. Now if someone can convince
me that Moore doesn't have that right, then I'll look at it differently. As
it stands now, all I see is a person's rights being taken away from them.~~~

How is it his right to put up a religious monument in a state judicial
building?

What if you were standing in front of Judge Muhammed Achmed, accused of some
crime and sentenced to death...and you were an avowed Christian, and Judge
Achmed was a devout Muslim who had placed a large monument to the Koran in
the lobby and basically said that he would base all his legal decisions on
that Koran?

Our nation has been set up such that GOVERNMENT shouldn't endorse, tacitly
or openly, any ONE religion, thus guaranteeing freedom for ALL religions.

The building isn't Moore's personal quarters--it's OUR building. He has no
right to move in and decorate it as he wishes.

JMO...



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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme CourtRejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jeff Todd]

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> Jeff,
>
> In all honesty, and all jokes aside, are you really a
supporter of Moore?

Yes. Honest Injun.

> And if so, how would you feel if Moore had placed a
huge Buddha statue in
> the building?

You know what? I wouldn't like it worth a damn! But my
feelings don't matter because Moore has the right to do
that. Just like he has the right to put that momument
of the Ten Commandments in there, hang Daniel Moore
paintings on the walls, etc. Now if someone can
convince me that Moore doesn't have that right, then
I'll look at it differently. As it stands now, all I
see is a person's rights being taken away from them.

> Seriously.

Seriously.

JT



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RE: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[SecFan]

Oh yeah it's one of those years. We probably ought to skip Miami.

Charlie

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Charlie:

What game are y'all going to skip this year?

Slef E.

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> Well I believe 8-3 is pretty realistic. There is a
lot of very young talent
> so they are probably a year away.


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[RollTideFan] Tide begins to put in game plan...

[J.E. Lisby]

	Ordinarily, Alabama will have a week to put in its game plan for each 
football opponent, and that process will begin on Sundays during the 
season. But for the first game, installation of the game plan can begin 
earlier, and so it was Wednesday, 10 days from kickoff against the South 
Florida Bulls, that Crimson Tide Head Coach Mike Shula and his staff began 
exposing the squad to that plan.

http://alabama.theinsiders.com/2/170304.html

J.E. "Jay" Lisby
Bama: Inside the Crimson Tide
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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court RejectsLast-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jason Houston]

Jeff,

In all honesty, and all jokes aside, are you really a supporter of Moore?

And if so, how would you feel if Moore had placed a huge Buddha statue in
the building?

Seriously.


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> I hope Roy gets nominated and confirmed to the US
> Supreme Court before he's up for re-election.


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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects Last-MinuteAlabamaChiefJusticeAppeal

[Jeff Todd]

I hope Roy gets nominated and confirmed to the US
Supreme Court before he's up for re-election.

Slef E.

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> - Original Message - 
> From: "The Shadow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > That's some great news .  Now  if we could only
remove that slapnut from
> > office   :)
>
> Remove, Hell! Mark this in the archives,
> He'll be re-elected.  :-O
>
> ScR
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[RollTideFan] Plague of viruses/ reminder to update

[SAR]

In this age of viruses run rampant, remember to update your antivirus software
frequently.

I bring this up cause my anti-virus software updates "automatically"; tonight,
however, I checked it and it said it last updated on 08/19/03. I hit the update live
button anyway and received another update. Auto update is a good thing, but with the
wave of viruses and worms coming at usit doesn't hurt to be overly cautious.


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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[Jeff Todd]

Charlie:

What game are y'all going to skip this year?

Slef E.

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> Well I believe 8-3 is pretty realistic. There is a
lot of very young talent
> so they are probably a year away.


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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects Last-MinuteAlabamaChiefJustice Appeal

[SAR]

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> That's some great news .  Now  if we could only remove that slapnut from 
> office   :)

Remove, Hell! Mark this in the archives, 
He'll be re-elected.  :-O

ScR

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RE: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[SecFan]

Well I believe 8-3 is pretty realistic. There is a lot of very young talent
so they are probably a year away. I am also very interested in what Bama
does this year. Never a dull moment huh?. I do believe we'll beat tennessee
(that's the most important thing anyway, at least for us).

Charlie


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Pardon me if I speak put of place here, but I _think_ Slef might be
making reference to the feller responsible for the cover of this years
UF media guide.  He got fired and took a job at your local meat market.
 Labeling chicken kabobs.

BTW,  what's your thoughts on your Crocks this year?   Iz ook gonna pull
out a winning season?

kurt

SecFan wrote:

>Well you lost me on that one. But that ain't hard.
>
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] down the rock.org
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>
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>Subject: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?
>
>
>
>
>>Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks
>>
>>
>of chicken kabobs which
>
>
>>had been made by the meat market. The prices on one
>>
>>
>stack was $8-10 per
>
>
>>package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork
>>
>>
>neck bones and priced
>
>
>>at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be
>>
>>
>stealing to buy the
>
>
>>mis-labeled packages?.
>>
>>
>
>It would depend on whether or not there were any eggs
>similarly mis-labeled in the Dairy section.
>
>
>Slef E.
>
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

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> Not necessarily.  I have a stepdaughter that is 26
years old.  You are free
> to do what you wish with her.

Is she white?

White E.


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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Pat Smoot]

Not necessarily.  I have a stepdaughter that is 26 years old.  You are free
to do what you wish with her.


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>
> - Original Message - 
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> happened?
>
>
> > I don't consider age of majority 18 years old.  Are
> you not twice their age?
> > If you are, that makes you a dirty old man.  Do you
> want teenagers oohing &
> > aahing over your daughters?  Hell no, you'd shoot
> their ass.
>
> Does this mean becoming your son-in-law is out of the
> question for me?
>
>
> Slef E.
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute AlabamaChiefJustice Appeal

[Steven Johnson]

Little Jimmie, don't you live in Florida?

RTR
LC
--- The Shadow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> That's some great news .  Now  if we could only
> remove that slapnut from 
> office   :)
> 
> 
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama
> Athletics Discussion 
> >List<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: rolltidefan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects
> Last-Minute Alabama 
> >ChiefJustice Appeal
> >Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:03:56 -0500 (CDT)
> >
> >"Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute Alabama Chief
> Justice Appeal
> >By Bob Johnson Associated Press Writer
> >Published: Aug 20, 2003
> >
> >MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Alabama Chief Justice Roy
> Moore on Wednesday lost a 
> >last-minute appeal to the Supreme Court to save a
> Ten Commandments monument 
> >he installed in a judicial building, clearing the
> way for its removal.
> >The high court rejected Moore's emergency plea for
> a stay, declining to be 
> >drawn into a dispute over whether the 5,300-pound,
> granite monument 
> >violates the Constitution's ban on government
> promotion of religion.
> >
> >U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson had set a
> midnight Wednesday deadline 
> >for the monument's removal from the rotunda of the
> judicial building. He 
> >was not expected to take immediate action to remove
> the display.
> >
> >Thompson has threatened $5,000-a-day fines if his
> order is ignored after 
> >the deadline. Attorneys who sued to force removal
> of the monument said they 
> >expect to file a contempt of court petition against
> Moore that Thompson may 
> >consider in a conference call Thursday, setting the
> stage for fines.
> >
> >"It's time for Roy's rock to roll," said Ayesha
> Khan, an attorney for 
> >Americans United for Separation of Church and
> State, one of the groups that 
> >sued.
> >
> >Moore installed the monument two years ago after
> being elected chief 
> >justice amid publicity of his support of the Ten
> Commandments. In 
> >Washington, D.C., one of Moore's attorneys, Phillip
> Jauregui, said the 
> >judge was sticking by his pledge to defy Thompson's
> order.
> >
> >"The statement that the chief made last Thursday
> still stands," Jauregui 
> >said. Other Alabama officials could move the
> monument.
> >
> >Moore's lawyers told the justices in a filing that
> Moore should be allowed 
> >to "establish justice by acknowledging the guidance
> and favor of Almighty 
> >God, placed upon him by his oath of office and the
> Constitution of 
> >Alabama."
> >
> >"This case is not about a monument, it's not about
> politics or religion, 
> >it's about the acknowledgment of God," Moore said
> on CBS' "The Early Show." 
> >"We must acknowledge God because our constitution
> says our justice system 
> >is established upon God."
> >
> >The Supreme Court has never ruled on the
> constitutionality of such indoor 
> >and outdoor government displays. In 1980, the court
> barred Ten Commandments 
> >from classroom walls in public schools.
> >
> >An appeals court had twice refused to give Moore a
> stay, setting up the 
> >plea at the high court.
> >
> >"It's not like somebody's about to face execution,
> if the court doesn't 
> >enter a stay the person will be dead and the appeal
> will be moot," said 
> >David Frederick, a Washington, D.C., attorney who
> specializes in Supreme 
> >Court practice. "If the Supreme Court were to
> decide it's constitutional, 
> >it can always be put back."
> >
> >Moore already has asked the Supreme Court to
> consider whether Thompson 
> >overstepped his bounds in the case, and a second
> appeal of the ruling in 
> >the Ten Commandments case is expected. Those could
> take months to resolve. 
> >..." (snip)
> >
> >http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAID4HXLJD.html
> >
> >ScR
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[kurt rasmussen]

Pardon me if I speak put of place here, but I _think_ Slef might be 
making reference to the feller responsible for the cover of this years 
UF media guide.  He got fired and took a job at your local meat market. 
Labeling chicken kabobs.

BTW,  what's your thoughts on your Crocks this year?   Iz ook gonna pull 
out a winning season?

kurt

SecFan wrote:

Well you lost me on that one. But that ain't hard.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] down the rock.org

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Subject: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?
 

Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks
   

of chicken kabobs which
 

had been made by the meat market. The prices on one
   

stack was $8-10 per
 

package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork
   

neck bones and priced
 

at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be
   

stealing to buy the
 

mis-labeled packages?.
   

It would depend on whether or not there were any eggs
similarly mis-labeled in the Dairy section.
Slef E.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute AlabamaChiefJustice Appeal

[The Shadow]

That's some great news .  Now  if we could only remove that slapnut from 
office   :)


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Subject: [RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute Alabama 
ChiefJustice Appeal
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:03:56 -0500 (CDT)

"Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute Alabama Chief Justice Appeal
By Bob Johnson Associated Press Writer
Published: Aug 20, 2003
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore on Wednesday lost a 
last-minute appeal to the Supreme Court to save a Ten Commandments monument 
he installed in a judicial building, clearing the way for its removal.
The high court rejected Moore's emergency plea for a stay, declining to be 
drawn into a dispute over whether the 5,300-pound, granite monument 
violates the Constitution's ban on government promotion of religion.

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson had set a midnight Wednesday deadline 
for the monument's removal from the rotunda of the judicial building. He 
was not expected to take immediate action to remove the display.

Thompson has threatened $5,000-a-day fines if his order is ignored after 
the deadline. Attorneys who sued to force removal of the monument said they 
expect to file a contempt of court petition against Moore that Thompson may 
consider in a conference call Thursday, setting the stage for fines.

"It's time for Roy's rock to roll," said Ayesha Khan, an attorney for 
Americans United for Separation of Church and State, one of the groups that 
sued.

Moore installed the monument two years ago after being elected chief 
justice amid publicity of his support of the Ten Commandments. In 
Washington, D.C., one of Moore's attorneys, Phillip Jauregui, said the 
judge was sticking by his pledge to defy Thompson's order.

"The statement that the chief made last Thursday still stands," Jauregui 
said. Other Alabama officials could move the monument.

Moore's lawyers told the justices in a filing that Moore should be allowed 
to "establish justice by acknowledging the guidance and favor of Almighty 
God, placed upon him by his oath of office and the Constitution of 
Alabama."

"This case is not about a monument, it's not about politics or religion, 
it's about the acknowledgment of God," Moore said on CBS' "The Early Show." 
"We must acknowledge God because our constitution says our justice system 
is established upon God."

The Supreme Court has never ruled on the constitutionality of such indoor 
and outdoor government displays. In 1980, the court barred Ten Commandments 
from classroom walls in public schools.

An appeals court had twice refused to give Moore a stay, setting up the 
plea at the high court.

"It's not like somebody's about to face execution, if the court doesn't 
enter a stay the person will be dead and the appeal will be moot," said 
David Frederick, a Washington, D.C., attorney who specializes in Supreme 
Court practice. "If the Supreme Court were to decide it's constitutional, 
it can always be put back."

Moore already has asked the Supreme Court to consider whether Thompson 
overstepped his bounds in the case, and a second appeal of the ruling in 
the Ten Commandments case is expected. Those could take months to resolve. 
..." (snip)

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAID4HXLJD.html

ScR



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[Steven Johnson]

Hey PMS, I was denied too. :-)   I just did it to see
if I was accepted, why would I want to sit at the
nerds table when I am already at the cool kids table? 
LMAO

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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[Doug]

Sounds like an employee may be pilfering from the store...

--- "SecFan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks of chicken kabobs which
>had been made by the meat market. The prices on one stack was $8-10 per
>package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork neck bones and priced
>at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be stealing to buy the
>mis-labeled packages?.
>
>Charlie
>
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[RollTideFan] preseason Top 100 college players

[SAR]

  The ONLY BAMA palyer is Justing Smiley at no.95.




  Wednesday, August 20

  Winslow tops the preseason Top 100


--

  By Bruce Feldman
  ESPN The Magazine


  The Top 100 doesn't reflect how guys figure to get drafted. It is directly off
their impact on the field this season and does not include any injured players. It
also would have included Maurice Clarett -- somewhere in the top 15 -- but since he's
still in limbo we'll wait to add him at midseason.

  1. Kellen Winslow II, Miami, TE: One hundred catches might not be possible, but
nobody creates more mismatches or makes more spectacular catches.

Reggie Williams is the nation's best WR, but he's not good enough to be
No. 1 in the Top 100.
  2. Reggie Williams, Washington, WR: Faster than Mike. More physical than Roy,
this is the most complete Williams. Also has the best QB throwing to him.
  3. Rod Davis, Southern Miss, LB: He may not run 4.38, but he plays fast. College
football's Ray Lewis, he could get 200 tackles and 25 TFLs.
  4. Rashaun Woods, Oklahoma St., WR: Twelve catches for 226 yards and 3 TDs
against an OU secondary that probably has three first-rounders. May not be track fast,
but scouts love his great burst coming out of his breaks.
  5. David Pollack, Georgia, DE: Not very tall (barely 6-feet), he's got
Urlacher-like explosive. Great motor guy. He'll miss Jonathan Sullivan, but will still
find a way.
  6. Larry Fitzgerald, Pitt, WR: Best ball skills of any receiver in the nation.
Almost a sure thing on the fade, he's the Panthers most unstoppable offensive weapon
since Tony Dorsett.
  7. Teddy Lehman, Oklahoma, LB: Runs 4.38. Plays like it too. Has tremendous
closing speed.
  8. Sean Taylor, Miami, S: Track fast (legit sub-4.4 speed) and now as big as
some DEs at 233. Taylor could be a top-five pick whenever he comes out.
  9. Roy Williams, Texas, WR: The fastest of the Williams boys. Had 4 for 142
against good LSU defense in the Cotton Bowl and is finally 100 percent we're told.
  10. Shawn Andrews, Arkansas, OT: Roadgrader with surprisingly quick feet, he
paved the way for the SEC's top ground attack in '02.
  11. Madieu Williams, Maryland, DB: Mr. Smooth. Has great range, instincts and
the feet to even play corner.
  12. Mike Williams, USC, WR: A mauler (81 rec., 1,265 yards and 14 TDs), he's now
15 pounds bigger (up to 228) and a more polished route runner.
  13. Marlin Jackson, Michigan, DB: The Big Ten's best. He's super competitive and
very physical. WRs call him the toughest cover guy in the conference.
  14. Derrick Johnson, Texas, LB: Led UT with 119 tackles and nine stops and three
tackles behind the line against LSU.
  15. Chris Gamble, Ohio State, CB/WR: Playmaker. Made game-saving picks all
season. Then, with some help, did solid job on Andre Johnson in the Fiesta Bowl, but
realized he needed to get stronger -- and thanks to 15 pounds of muscle -- he did.
  16. Darnell Docket, FSU, DT: Even though he was never 100 percent last season,
he still had 17 TFLs.
  17. Robert Gallery, Iowa, OT: Big, smart (3.2 GPA), nimble and has long arms.
The 6-7, 320-pounder might've been the best of the great Hawkeye O-line last season.

NC State's Philip Rivers should be a Heisman contender this season.
  18. Philip Rivers, NC State, QB: Quirky mechanics aside, he is the sharpest QB
around. Blistered a good ND defense going 23 of 37 for 228 yards and 2 TDs in Gator
Bowl.
  19. Darren Sproles, Kansas State, RB: "Tank" added 15 pounds (up to 187) to add
some power to his dazzling video game-like quickness.
  20. Brad Smith, Missouri, QB: Should again rush for over 1,000 yards and might
pass for 3,000 this time around.
  21. Greg Jones, FSU, RB: Nine games, 938 yards before tearing his ACL, a healthy
Jones evokes visions of Eddie George at his best.
  22. Booger Kennedy, North Texas, NG: The 5-9, 315-pounder former standout point
guard is virtually unblockable. Despite doubles and triples, he still had 25 TFLs.
  23. Ben Roethlisberger, Miami (Ohio), QB: The prototype can make all the throws,
even run a little option and now has a deep threat in Martin Nance.
  24. Tommie Harris, Oklahoma, DT: A groin injury kept him to about 70 percent,
but he was still a guy teams had to double all year.
  25. Cedric Benson, Texas, TB: Only had 1,300 yards despite battling through
injuries. 26. Kevin Jones, Virginia Tech, TB: Great talent has worked overtime to
curtail the fumbling and develop as a receiver.
  27. Cody Pickett, Washington, QB: Tough kid, threw for almost 4,500 yards and
should continue to evolve into a future first-rounder thanks to the big arm and good
feet.
  28. Vince Wilfork, Miami, DT: After a nightmarish year losing both his parents,
"Big Daddy" is ready to become the next great Cane DT.
  29. Brandon 

Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

That's what I'm thinking.

Cornholio

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> > Does this mean becoming your son-in-law is out of
the
> > question for me?
>
> Apparantly, it just depends upon how many holes you
want in your ass.
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> Does this mean becoming your son-in-law is out of the
> question for me?

Apparantly, it just depends upon how many holes you want in your ass.

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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[Jeff Todd]

"Hmmm...looks they've got a Florida fan working in the
meat department."

Slef E.


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> And a Bama fan would say?.
>
> Charlie
>
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>
>
> SecFan wrote:
>
> >Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks
of chicken kabobs which
> >had been made by the meat market. The prices on one
stack was $8-10 per
> >package while the other stack was mis-labeled as
pork neck bones and priced
> >at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be
stealing to buy the
> >mis-labeled packages?.
> >
>
> A flori-duh fan would laff say "Hay!  They mislabeled
those neck bones".
>  While they were reaching for the neck bones.
>
> kurt
>
>
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RE: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[SecFan]

Well you lost me on that one. But that ain't hard.

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> Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks
of chicken kabobs which
> had been made by the meat market. The prices on one
stack was $8-10 per
> package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork
neck bones and priced
> at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be
stealing to buy the
> mis-labeled packages?.

It would depend on whether or not there were any eggs
similarly mis-labeled in the Dairy section.


Slef E.


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RE: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[SecFan]

And a Bama fan would say?.

Charlie

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SecFan wrote:

>Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks of chicken kabobs which
>had been made by the meat market. The prices on one stack was $8-10 per
>package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork neck bones and priced
>at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be stealing to buy the
>mis-labeled packages?.
>

A flori-duh fan would laff say "Hay!  They mislabeled those neck bones".
 While they were reaching for the neck bones.

kurt


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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

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> I don't consider age of majority 18 years old.  Are
you not twice their age?
> If you are, that makes you a dirty old man.  Do you
want teenagers oohing &
> aahing over your daughters?  Hell no, you'd shoot
their ass.

Does this mean becoming your son-in-law is out of the
question for me?


Slef E.




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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[Jeff Todd]

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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 5:46 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?


> Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks
of chicken kabobs which
> had been made by the meat market. The prices on one
stack was $8-10 per
> package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork
neck bones and priced
> at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be
stealing to buy the
> mis-labeled packages?.

It would depend on whether or not there were any eggs
similarly mis-labeled in the Dairy section.


Slef E.


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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Pat Smoot]

I don't consider age of majority 18 years old.  Are you not twice their age?
If you are, that makes you a dirty old man.  Do you want teenagers oohing &
aahing over your daughters?  Hell no, you'd shoot their ass.


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>
>
> > NO!!  You're a dirty old man.  These girls are
> CHILDREN !!
>
> Hell, woman...everyone is someone's child!
>
> Sleffie
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[RollTideFan] Legion Field soon to

[atticusjd]

Legion Field soon to
be a Tide memory

TUSCALOOSA — "Next season the Alabama football team will not play in Birmingham for 
the fist time since 1899. And if you want to see the Crimson Tide at Legion Field, 
there are only two more chances. 

The Crimson Tide will open the 2005 season at Legion Field against Middle Tennessee 
State. After that, there is just one more game left on UA's contract with Legion 
Field. The Tide has the option to play that game in either 2007 or 2008. 

And they likely won't play another game there in the future. 

Legion Field has its history, but its prime as a football cathedral is history. 

"The on-campus atmosphere is what makes college football special," said Tide Athletics 
Director Mal Moore. 

The Crimson Tide used to need Legion Field to fit all the people that wanted to see 
the Crimson Tide play. But since 1998, Bryant-Denny Stadium has a larger seating 
capacity that Legion Field. 

Bryant-Denny also has other advantages. Like the university? It's in Tuscaloosa. 
Legion Field isn't in the most scenic part of Birmingham, and every Alabama football 
game means big money to wherever it is played. That means the city of Tuscaloosa will 
welcome the extra game in the city. 

The Crimson Tide doesn't lose much money from playing at Legion Field, but it is a 
hassle for the entire support staff for the Crimson Tide — trainers, media 
relations, ticket office personnel. 

Moore said the Crimson Tide isn't ducking Penn State, which it was scheduled to play 
in 2005 and 2006, but Alabama needs home games in the next couple of years to make up 
for the loss of Southeastern Conference bowl money because of recent NCAA sanctions. 
"We're losing $3 million each year from bowl revenue," Moore said. "We had to push 
back an away game for seven home games to make up for that revenue." 

Upcoming games with the Nittany Lions have been rescheduled for 2013 and 2014. 

He also noted that Auburn has recently changed its future schedules as well. (The 
Tigers are looking to get out of an upcoming series with Clemson, in fact. It happens 
everywhere.) 

Construction has started on the Tuscaloosa campus, and there's more to come. 
Press conferences with head coach Mike Shula have been interrupted by jackhammers as 
the work continues on the football building renovations and the new weight rooms. That 
work should be done in December, Moore said. 

Moore said renovations on Bryant Hall and the construction of the new soccer stadium 
and tennis complex should begin in the next two or three weeks. 

Bryant Hall will be turned into an academic center for all Alabama athletes" 
(snip) 

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Re: [RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[kurt rasmussen]

SecFan wrote:

Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks of chicken kabobs which
had been made by the meat market. The prices on one stack was $8-10 per
package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork neck bones and priced
at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be stealing to buy the
mis-labeled packages?.
A flori-duh fan would laff say "Hay!  They mislabeled those neck bones". 
While they were reaching for the neck bones.

kurt

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[RollTideFan] Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute Alabama ChiefJustice Appeal

[atticusjd]

"Supreme Court Rejects Last-Minute Alabama Chief Justice Appeal
By Bob Johnson Associated Press Writer 
Published: Aug 20, 2003
  
MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP) - Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore on Wednesday lost a 
last-minute appeal to the Supreme Court to save a Ten Commandments monument he 
installed in a judicial building, clearing the way for its removal. 
The high court rejected Moore's emergency plea for a stay, declining to be drawn into 
a dispute over whether the 5,300-pound, granite monument violates the Constitution's 
ban on government promotion of religion. 

U.S. District Judge Myron Thompson had set a midnight Wednesday deadline for the 
monument's removal from the rotunda of the judicial building. He was not expected to 
take immediate action to remove the display. 

Thompson has threatened $5,000-a-day fines if his order is ignored after the deadline. 
Attorneys who sued to force removal of the monument said they expect to file a 
contempt of court petition against Moore that Thompson may consider in a conference 
call Thursday, setting the stage for fines. 

"It's time for Roy's rock to roll," said Ayesha Khan, an attorney for Americans United 
for Separation of Church and State, one of the groups that sued. 

Moore installed the monument two years ago after being elected chief justice amid 
publicity of his support of the Ten Commandments. In Washington, D.C., one of Moore's 
attorneys, Phillip Jauregui, said the judge was sticking by his pledge to defy 
Thompson's order. 

"The statement that the chief made last Thursday still stands," Jauregui said. Other 
Alabama officials could move the monument. 

Moore's lawyers told the justices in a filing that Moore should be allowed to 
"establish justice by acknowledging the guidance and favor of Almighty God, placed 
upon him by his oath of office and the Constitution of Alabama." 

"This case is not about a monument, it's not about politics or religion, it's about 
the acknowledgment of God," Moore said on CBS' "The Early Show." "We must acknowledge 
God because our constitution says our justice system is established upon God." 

The Supreme Court has never ruled on the constitutionality of such indoor and outdoor 
government displays. In 1980, the court barred Ten Commandments from classroom walls 
in public schools. 

An appeals court had twice refused to give Moore a stay, setting up the plea at the 
high court. 

"It's not like somebody's about to face execution, if the court doesn't enter a stay 
the person will be dead and the appeal will be moot," said David Frederick, a 
Washington, D.C., attorney who specializes in Supreme Court practice. "If the Supreme 
Court were to decide it's constitutional, it can always be put back." 

Moore already has asked the Supreme Court to consider whether Thompson overstepped his 
bounds in the case, and a second appeal of the ruling in the Ten Commandments case is 
expected. Those could take months to resolve. ..." (snip)

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGAID4HXLJD.html

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[RollTideFan] Is this stealing?

[SecFan]

Today while in the grocery store I spied two stacks of chicken kabobs which
had been made by the meat market. The prices on one stack was $8-10 per
package while the other stack was mis-labeled as pork neck bones and priced
at $1.50-$2 per package. Do you think it would be stealing to buy the
mis-labeled packages?.

Charlie



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[RollTideFan] Talk with NCAA focused on 'test scores, cheating'

[Jeff Todd]

If the NCAA wasn't interested in academic wrongdoing at
UT, why would they concern themselves with the same at
OSU?

http://tinyurl.com/kns8

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[RollTideFan] Bookmark this site

[Jeff Todd]

http://tinyurl.com/9tl

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[RollTideFan] This is Alabama Football!

[Devonna Snuggs]

because this place needs some energy

THIS IS ALABAMA FOOTBALL
It is Wallace Wade.
It is Paul "Bear" Bryant.
It is the Rose Bowl.
It is hearing Keith Jackson call an Alabama game.
It is watching George Teague running down Lamar Thomas in the 1993 Sugar
Bowl, then rewinding it and watching it again.
It is hearing the first notes of "Sweet Home Alabama." Sorry UAB & Auburn,
but that isn't your song.
It is the desire to beat Auburn at any competitive event that exists.
It is the houndstooth hat.
It is having enough pride to fight for your school but having enough class
not to.
It is cheering the same amount for a first down on 2nd & 6 as on 4th & 1.
It is watching Cornelius Bennett give Notre Dame QB Steve Beuerlein a
concussion on that October day in Birmingham in 1986.
It is determining whom you are going to date & marry by which team they
swear allegiance to.
It is watching The Bear on the Jumbotron in Bryant-Denny Stadium and almost
seeing him leaning against the goalpost.
It is spending a day at the Bryant Museum & still not seeing everything.
It is cool crisp autumn Saturdays where you can smell football in the air
&feel it with the slightest breeze.
It is watching The Bear get #315 against Auburn (how appropriate).
It is watching The Bear get #323 against Illinois.
It is hearing Paul Kennedy call theplay-by-play as Van Tiffin kicks the
52-yd game winning field goal against Auburn in 1985.
It is knowing how many days until the start of the season year around.
It is driving down Colonial Drive to see Bryant-Denny Stadium.
It is getting chills up & down your entire body whenever you hear anything
about the 1993 Sugar Bowl & the pride you feel because on that night,
TRADITION RULED.
It is hearing Coach Bryant's voice & having all the hair on the back of your
neck stand straight up because you know that no matter what he said, it was
something special.
It is hearing The Million Dollar Band play "Yea Alabama" and knowing it just
doesn't get any better.
It is imagining hearing Penn State QB Chuck Fusina ask Alabama linebacker
Barry Krauss "How close is it?" & hearing Barry say "About an inch, you'd
better pass" right before 4th down during the Goal Line Stand in the 1979
Sugar Bowl.
It is almost coming to tears whenever Alabama loses to Auburn or Tennessee.
It is The Kick.
It is the Goal Line Stand.
It is The Desperation Block.
It is purposely not wearing any clothes with the colors orange & blue.
It is the 3rd Saturday in October.
It is not needing an alarm clock on game days. You sit straight up in bed
long before it goes off, knowing it's game day.
It is walking into the stadium with the feeling that Alabama will win the
game, simply because that is the way it is supposed to be.
It is saying "Offense wins games, defense wins national titles."
It is walking into the stadium hours before the game just to be there.
It is walking into another school's stadium & having those fans hate you
because you're a Bama fan.
It is the pride that a father has when he brings his children to a game so
they may cherish the tradition. The grin you get when an Auburn Fan proves
again to the world how little class they really have and how envious of
Alabama Football they really are.
It is beating LSU in Baton Rouge, again and again.
It is hearing the crunch as a crimson clad linebacker takes down a running
back dressed in orange & blue.
It is the pride you take in being EVERY team's rival.
It is pulling for any team that's playing Auburn.
It is pulling for any team that's playing Tennessee.
It is hoping that the stadium blows up when Auburn plays Tennessee.
It is knowing that the SEC Championship is a birthright.
It is being respected, & feared at the same time.
It is holding up four fingers at the end of the 3rd quarter.
It is knowing what singing "Rocky Top" in Neyland Stadium with the Million
Dollar Band in Knoxville feels like.
It is knowing what "Mama Called" means.
It is knowing what "paying property taxes in Tennessee" means.
It is having 21 SEC Championships. It is having 12 National Championships.
It is more than we can ever mention in these thoughts.
It is class.
It is tradition.
IT IS ALABAMA FOOTBALL.





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Re: [RollTideFan] Well this sucks

[Devonna Snuggs]

have you all checked out the games for JP?  November 29 - Tennessee at
Kentucky, or
Florida State at Florida.  I can't imagine they would carry Fl/FSU

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Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:32 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Well this sucks


> ESPN may not carry the Hawaii game.
>
> http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2003/Aug/20/sp/sp06a.html
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[RollTideFan] Well this sucks

[Steven Johnson]

ESPN may not carry the Hawaii game.  

http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2003/Aug/20/sp/sp06a.html

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RE: [RollTideFan] Why Auburn might not be a slam-dunk to win theSECtitle

[Joel Perry]

Didcha read ESPN's glory report on the Cow Cuddlers Hell they all but
made them reservations in Nawlens.

If allbarn does do well, this is going to be an extremely long season..

I need a drink.


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Behalf Of Jeff Todd
Sent:   Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:59 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[RollTideFan] Why Auburn might not be a slam-dunk to win the
SECtitle

"So, as a public service for all those Auburn fans with
large intestines full of sunbeams, here's what you
should be worrying about this summer (and you would not
be a college football fan if you didn't worry, right?)"

http://tinyurl.com/km2p

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[RollTideFan] Why Auburn might not be a slam-dunk to win the SECtitle

[Jeff Todd]

"So, as a public service for all those Auburn fans with
large intestines full of sunbeams, here's what you
should be worrying about this summer (and you would not
be a college football fan if you didn't worry, right?)"

http://tinyurl.com/km2p

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Re: [RollTideFan] residence hall construction

[Devonna Snuggs]

not Paty!  Man, I am sure if those walls could talk in that dorm, lots of
people would be in lots of trouble.

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To: "bamafans" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "rolltidefan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 1:44 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] residence hall construction


> University of Alabama plans residence hall construction
>
> The University of Alabama, dealing with record enrollment and facing the
demolition of one residence hall, will build five new dormitories on campus,
President Robert Witt said.
>
> Witt said Tuesday that the proposed dormitories are part of a long-range
plan in the early stages of development.
>
> The first two of the five new residence halls would come close to
replacing the approximately 450 beds that will be lost when Paty Hall is
torn down, which is scheduled to happen by 2005(snip)
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?R375237A5
>
>
> ScR
>
>
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[RollTideFan] residence hall construction

[atticusjd]

University of Alabama plans residence hall construction

The University of Alabama, dealing with record enrollment and facing the demolition of 
one residence hall, will build five new dormitories on campus, President Robert Witt 
said.

Witt said Tuesday that the proposed dormitories are part of a long-range plan in the 
early stages of development.

The first two of the five new residence halls would come close to replacing the 
approximately 450 beds that will be lost when Paty Hall is torn down, which is 
scheduled to happen by 2005(snip)
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Devonna Snuggs]

Yeah, but we came in at 11.  It's all the 'alcohol free' pep rallies they've
been having before HC and other big games that did it  : )

- Original Message -
From: "SAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?


> The Princeton Review released it's list of college party schools. The top
ten are :
>
> The top 10 party schools for 2004 are:
>
>   1.. University of Colorado
>
>   2.. University of Wisconsin-Madison
>
>   3.. Indiana University
>
>   4.. University of Illinois
>
>   5.. Washington and Lee University
>
>   6.. University of Texas-Austin
>
>   7.. The University of the South
>
>   8.. DePauw University
>
>   9.. Saint Bonaventure University
>
>   10.. University of Florida
>
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp?name=fte/partyschool/partys
chool
> or
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?G22D152A5
>
>
> What the heck happened? For several years Bama was castigated for it's
party rep. and
> now it isn't even in the top ten?
>
> ScR
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[PIRATESPT]

In a message dated 8/20/2003 6:47:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

Whoever compiled this list needs to learn a good definition of party...or college...or 
bothAny school in Louisiana will kick these folks around...and Georgiaand in 
its own way Alabama...are light years ahead of any of these schools...Hell five of the 
ten are topflight academic schools...gimmeabreak
> - Original Message - 
> From: "SAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:02 PM
> Subject: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?
> 
> 
> > The Princeton Review released it's list of college
> party schools. The top ten are :
> >
> > The top 10 party schools for 2004 are:
> >
> >   1.. University of Colorado
> >
> >   2.. University of Wisconsin-Madison
> >
> >   3.. Indiana University
> >
> >   4.. University of Illinois
> >
> >   5.. Washington and Lee University
> >
> >   6.. University of Texas-Austin
> >
> >   7.. The University of the South
> >
> >   8.. DePauw University
> >
> >   9.. Saint Bonaventure University
> >
> >   10.. University of Florida

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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[atticusjd]

---Original Message---
From: Pat Smoot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> NO!!  You're a dirty old man.  These girls are CHILDREN !!


I assure you, Pat. We ain't talkin any kind of "party" that they haven't tried down in 
T-town..by now, certainly they are legal age!

ScR

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Re: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[kr10]

BWAAHAHAHA! 

kurt
> 
> From: Jeff Todd <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2003/08/20 Wed AM 06:48:56 EDT
> To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?
> 
> This is what we get for firing Mike Price.
> 
> Roll Tide!!
> 
> Slef E.
> 
> 
> PS
> 
> Sorry about the Morgan Moore-like blank I shot just a
> moment ago.
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "SAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:02 PM
> Subject: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?
> 
> 
> > The Princeton Review released it's list of college
> party schools. The top ten are :
> >
> > The top 10 party schools for 2004 are:
> >
> >   1.. University of Colorado
> >
> >   2.. University of Wisconsin-Madison
> >
> >   3.. Indiana University
> >
> >   4.. University of Illinois
> >
> >   5.. Washington and Lee University
> >
> >   6.. University of Texas-Austin
> >
> >   7.. The University of the South
> >
> >   8.. DePauw University
> >
> >   9.. Saint Bonaventure University
> >
> >   10.. University of Florida
> >
> http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp?name=fte/partyschool/partyschool
> > or
> > http://makeashorterlink.com/?G22D152A5
> >
> >
> > What the heck happened? For several years Bama was
> castigated for it's party rep. and
> > now it isn't even in the top ten?
> >
> > ScR
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

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Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what
happened?


> NO!!  You're a dirty old man.  These girls are
CHILDREN !!

Hell, woman...everyone is someone's child!

Sleffie

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Re: [RollTideFan] Wortham

[Steven Johnson]

Krut, I heard that he will be held out of the South
Florida game, but would probably play vs OU.

RTR
LC
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> Local radio (730 UMP) announced this morning that
> he's out for 2/3 weeks because of the elbow injury. 
> Everything I've read made it sound like he's being
> held out of practice on a day to day basis.  Anybody
> know? 
> 
> kurt
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RE: [RollTideFan] check the picture

[Joel Perry]

What yacht? Where?

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Behalf Of kurt rasmussen
Sent:   Tuesday, August 19, 2003 7:09 PM
To: rtf
Subject:[RollTideFan] check the picture

  closely...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/030818/241/50bq2.html&e=3&ncid=175
6


or

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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Pat Smoot]

NO!!  You're a dirty old man.  These girls are CHILDREN !!


- Original Message - 
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<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?


> Got any action GIF's you'd care to share with the
> group?
>
> Love,
>
> Sleffie
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
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> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what
> happened?
>
>
> > I don't know what happened, but I can assure you that
> my daughter & her
> > friends worked their asses off to get BAMA to the #1
> spot.
>
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

Got any action GIF's you'd care to share with the
group?

Love,

Sleffie

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From: "Pat Smoot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics
Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 7:03 AM
Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what
happened?


> I don't know what happened, but I can assure you that
my daughter & her
> friends worked their asses off to get BAMA to the #1
spot.



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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Pat Smoot]

I don't know what happened, but I can assure you that my daughter & her
friends worked their asses off to get BAMA to the #1 spot.


- Original Message - 
From: "SAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?


> The Princeton Review released it's list of college party schools. The top
ten are :
>
> The top 10 party schools for 2004 are:
>
>   1.. University of Colorado
>
>   2.. University of Wisconsin-Madison
>
>   3.. Indiana University
>
>   4.. University of Illinois
>
>   5.. Washington and Lee University
>
>   6.. University of Texas-Austin
>
>   7.. The University of the South
>
>   8.. DePauw University
>
>   9.. Saint Bonaventure University
>
>   10.. University of Florida
>
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp?name=fte/partyschool/partyschool
> or
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?G22D152A5
>
>
> What the heck happened? For several years Bama was castigated for it's
party rep. and
> now it isn't even in the top ten?
>
> ScR
>
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

- Original Message - 
From: "SAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?


> The Princeton Review released it's list of college
party schools. The top ten are :
>
> The top 10 party schools for 2004 are:
>
>   1.. University of Colorado
>
>   2.. University of Wisconsin-Madison
>
>   3.. Indiana University
>
>   4.. University of Illinois
>
>   5.. Washington and Lee University
>
>   6.. University of Texas-Austin
>
>   7.. The University of the South
>
>   8.. DePauw University
>
>   9.. Saint Bonaventure University
>
>   10.. University of Florida
>
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp?name=fte/partyschool/partyschool
> or
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?G22D152A5
>
>
> What the heck happened? For several years Bama was
castigated for it's party rep. and
> now it isn't even in the top ten?
>
> ScR
>
>
>
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Re: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?

[Jeff Todd]

This is what we get for firing Mike Price.

Roll Tide!!

Slef E.


PS

Sorry about the Morgan Moore-like blank I shot just a
moment ago.


- Original Message - 
From: "SAR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 11:02 PM
Subject: [RollTideFan] Party schools...what happened?


> The Princeton Review released it's list of college
party schools. The top ten are :
>
> The top 10 party schools for 2004 are:
>
>   1.. University of Colorado
>
>   2.. University of Wisconsin-Madison
>
>   3.. Indiana University
>
>   4.. University of Illinois
>
>   5.. Washington and Lee University
>
>   6.. University of Texas-Austin
>
>   7.. The University of the South
>
>   8.. DePauw University
>
>   9.. Saint Bonaventure University
>
>   10.. University of Florida
>
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/news/package.jsp?name=fte/partyschool/partyschool
> or
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?G22D152A5
>
>
> What the heck happened? For several years Bama was
castigated for it's party rep. and
> now it isn't even in the top ten?
>
> ScR
>
>
>
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