Re: [RollTideFan] YACC
IYAM STEALING THAT!! Here's yore dollar. ($1) kurt Jeff Todd wrote: DAMN! That thangs got a HEMI! Slef E. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 1:01 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] YACC (YACC= you add caption contest) http://people.delphiforums.com/bsyou/tickle.jpg kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Winter
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Re: [RollTideFan] New neighbor
Sound like a couple of bacteria. kurt Jeff Todd wrote: I ain't never in my dayum life ... there ought to be a law agin that kind of nonsense. Jones and his wife, Valerie, are the parents of 4-year-old twins, Walterius and Waleria. -- Slef E. - Original Message - From: "kurt rasmussen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "rtf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, February 07, 2004 11:56 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] New neighbor sorta... It's about 10 min from here, and it's something to see. kurt http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/107614894749370.xml __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] New neighbor
sorta... It's about 10 min from here, and it's something to see. kurt http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/news/107614894749370.xml Hard to keep up with these Joneses NFL player Walter Jones settles family here; he's set to play in 4th Pro Bowl 02/07/04 By MIKE MARSHALL Times Staff Writer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Behold the new mansion across from Sparkman High School. Walk up to the front gate, and look down the long, sloping driveway. See that large "J" in the middle of the gate emblem? Think that's the only clue to the identity of the owner? Check out the back yard. Near the woods is a football field with two goal posts. The newly sodded field is a regulation 100 yards long. Two orange flags are tied to the top of the goal posts - just like the goal posts in the National Football League. A professional football player lives in the 13,000-square-foot house at 2699 Jeff Road in Harvest. His name is Walter Jones. He's one of the best players in the NFL. He's a 6-foot-5, 308-pound offensive tackle for the Seattle Seahawks. [...] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Aubie banking..
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/040206/ids_photos_wl/ra2722812608.jpg&e=1&ncid=1756 or http://www.hugeurl.com/?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 kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] TIT!!!
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[RollTideFan] VO type joke...
Several years ago the Vanderbilt University funded a study to determine why the head on a man's penis is larger than the shaft. The study took 2 years and cost over $180,000.00. The results of the study concluded that the reason the head of a man's penis is larger than the shaft was to provide the man with more pleasure during sex. After the results were published, the U.S. Government decided to conduct their own study on the same subject. They were convinced that the results of the VU study were incorrect. After three years of research and cost an excess of $250,000.00, they concluded that the head of a man's penis is larger than the shaft to provide the women with more pleasure during sex. When the results of the U.S. Government study were released, The University of Tennessee decided to conduct their own study. The Vols didn't really trust the government or Vanderbilt studies. So after nearly three weeks of intensive research and at a cost of right around $15.00, the Vol study reached a conclusion. They came to the final conclusion that the reason the head on a man's penis is larger than the shaft is to prevent your hand from flying off and hitting you in the forehead. kurt I hate Tennesse and so should you! ($1) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Football relieved a real kind of hunger
http://www.gomemphis.com/mca/football/article/0,1426,MCA_478_2620576,00.html Football relieved a real kind of hunger By Geoff Calkins February 1, 2004 HOUSTON - Hunger. It is a word that has been diluted by sports, has lost its meaning. Hungry for a win. Hungry for a Super Bowl. Are they hungry enough? Which team is hungrier? Kindal Moorehead can tell you about hunger. The kind that gnaws at your belly, that slips into your sleep, that forces you to do things you might not otherwise do. Like, say, go to school. "You made sure you went to Melrose every day," Moorehead said, "because that's two meals right there." The Super Bowl has grown into the biggest, gaudiest, richest day in the life of America. It is a celebration of excess, of money, of commerce. Tickets cost $500 a pop. Thirty seconds of advertising cost $2.3 million. The winning players get $68,000 each. The losing players get $36,500. Moorehead ponders these numbers, these inconceivable, crazy numbers. "My mother makes like $11,000 a year," he says. "How she paid the bills, I have no idea." Moorehead is one of two Memphis kids on the Carolina Panthers, the one you hear less about. Part of this is because Moorehead is a rookie, a backup defensive lineman on the best defensive line in the league. Part of it is because Carolina cornerback Reggie Howard has the better, cleaner story. Howard broke his neck at the University of Memphis. He came back. Presto, happy ending! Moorehead's story is more complicated, more systemic, more numbingly common in Memphis. He grew up poor. Inconceivably poor. For all the usual reasons. His mother Claria, grew up in rural Mississippi, married at 18, and moved to Memphis when her husband left. She bought a tiny house on Pendleton and worked cleaning other people's houses. She walked to work. She did what she could. But how do you fight drugs, and pregnancy, and hopelessness? All five of her elder children fell into drugs. Five for five. It was perfectly horrible. "It's a terrible addiction," Moorehead says. "We're a blunt family. We had our fights about it. We still do." One sister had seven children. Another had two. Another had three. Most crammed into the little house on Pendleton. "I remember when 19 of us were living there," Moorehead says. "Nobody had their own bed. You just found a place to sleep, on the couch, on the floor, wherever. "I don't think my mom has ever slept in a bed by herself. She'd usually have four or six of the little ones in her bed with her." The small miracle is that Moorehead emerged from this, and it wasn't just because of football. He was strong. Steeled by what he saw, maybe. "I never did have no problem with him," Claria says. "He wouldn't complain. 'I ain't got no shoes, I ain't got no pants.' He knew I wasn't able to do anything else." And then, before his ninth grade year, a friend dared Moorehead to play football. He was in the band at the time. He liked the band. "But they said I was scared to play," he says. "I had to prove I wasn't." It didn't take long to figure out that Moorehead had a future in the game. Darryl Montgomery, his defensive coordinator at the time, remembers a play against Covington. "He went into the backfield, took the ball out of the running back's hands and started running the other way," he says. "That was Kindal." Football made life easier for Moorehead because, well, people help football players. Claria remembers former Melrose coach Tim Thompson bringing boxes of food by the house. Sometimes, he'd help with Christmas gifts. Alabama offered a scholarship. Maybe Alabama offered more. Moorehead won't go into it. But you imagine growing up the way Moorehead did, you imagine six to a bed, meals on store credit, crack cocaine not just on the streets, but in your house, your family. The NCAA rule book must seem laughable. "I didn't think about getting a scholarship growing up," Moorehead said. "I thought about getting money to buy some food. We'd go rake some leaves, pump some gas. Anything to get a little money." Moorehead was a star at Alabama. Then he blew out his Achilles' tendon, then he messed up his knee, then he wrecked his shoulder. He was a fifth-round draft pick. Not high enough to cash in big. He's tight with his money. He'd like to buy his mother a house someday. He figures she's the hero in this story. She figures he is. "I've had one of my babies make it," she says. "That makes me real happy." Moorehead is still deeply entrenched in the family. He still sleeps in the house on Pendleton when he goes home. The little kids love him. Of course, they ask him for stuff. "When I get home, they come running and say, 'Give me a hug,' " he says. Moorehead smiles. The man's not cheap where it counts. "And I always give it to them." Contact columnist Geoff Calkins at 529-2364 or send an e-mail. You can hear his radio show, "SportsTime with George Lapides and Geoff Calkin
[RollTideFan] Link found on Fark
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Re: [RollTideFan] Rut Row..
SAR wrote: Hate to tell you, Krut..but, I know for a fact that at least one person in Madison County has died from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, the human version of mad cow disease. RUT-ROW^10 ! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Rut Row..
http://www.whnt.com/Global/story.asp?S=1624294&nav=1VPtKX0X NewsChannel 19's Kym Richardson Reports 1/30/04 Autopsy reports show a DeKalb County man died from Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease, the human version of mad cow disease. Charles Farrow, or "Bobby" known to friends became sick in October of 2001. He began mixing up his words and staggering. Doctors said he had a mini stroke and he'd be fine. But Farrow continued to get worse. Two months later doctors in Birmingham diagnosed him with sporadic Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease or CJD. Three days after that - he slipped into a coma. Bobby's wife, Evelyn said, "this is a horrible disease, they need to find out what it is. In 6 weeks go from a healthy person to someone in a coma, you can't understand this." "There are cases that are just sporadic, where we just don't know," says Dr. Richard Spera. Dr. Spera is an infectious disease physician. He says Creutzfeldt-jakob disease is so rare, medical experts are still baffled by it. "Something that's very difficult to diagnose, usually done at autopsy," added Dr. Spera. This is what doctors do know. CJD is usually not contagious. In most cases, like Bobby's, it appears out of nowhere. In 10% of cases it's inherited through a mutated gene. The few cases that have been diagnosed in the United State they have not been passed from infected cows to humans. Charles Farrow died in November of 2003. When he was buried, his body had to be wrapped several times to make sure no fluids would leak into the ground. Apparently after death is when CJD is a risk to anyone who handles the body. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Way to go Coach
Rick McMahan wrote: http://home.comcast.net/~hester28/wsb/media/383325/site1003.jpg GOOAAA! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] A Worthy Prosecution?
http://www.memphisflyer.com/content.asp?ArticleID=5&ID=5410 A Worthy Prosecution? Flyer Staff | 1/30/2004 The criminal prosecution of University of Alabama football booster Logan Young has opened a Pandora's box of problems for federal prosecutors, the NCAA, and now it seems even the University of Tennessee and Coach Phillip Fulmer. Way back in August 2001, U.S. Attorney Terrell Harris and Shelby County District Attorney General Bill Gibbons held a joint press conference to announce the indictments of high school football coaches Lynn Lang and Milton Kirk. The prosecutors were going to do nothing less than clean up recruiting in Memphis. "We are sending a clear message that the sale of high school athletes for personal gain will not be tolerated in our community," they said. So where are we two-and-a-half years later? Last week, Fulmer was identified as a confidential source in the NCAA's investigation of Alabama, going so far as to secretly tape a potential witness for 90 minutes. Fulmer and UT boosters tattled on Alabama and peddled the story to the media, starting in the summer of 2000. Young's attorneys plan to subpoena Fulmer and his notes, tapes, and records. All over Alabama, fans of the Crimson Tide are howling that Tennessee got a pass from the NCAA on its alleged football program violations in return for "private investigator" Fulmer's cooperation. On Monday, Young was in court for a brief appearance, vowing a fight to the finish with the best legal defense money can buy. An expensive three-year-old federal investigation is likely to get a lot more expensive, all on the flimsy grounds that high school coaches are "public officials" and that their auction of star player Albert Means was extortion, bribery, and a violation of the laws of interstate commerce. The latest development in this overblown epic came out of Montgomery, Alabama, this week. Attorney and Alabama partisan Tommy Gallion demanded a congressional investigation of the NCAA investigation of the university. Whether or not he gets one, Gallion will remain Fulmer's and the NCAA's worst nightmare. Thanks to overzealous prosecutors and Tennessee boosters, stacks of documents and tapes that otherwise would have remained locked up in NCAA files instead became public record and fodder for fresh stories. The NCAA is having to defend itself against charges of favoritism and criminalizing a recruiting investigation. And federal prosecutors got themselves deeply mired in a case that, at best, they will win at trial or, at worst, they will lose or see dismissed. And all for what? Young was sanctioned two years ago by Alabama and disassociated from the football program. For someone as passionate as he is about Alabama football, that is serious punishment. Lang and Kirk are out of coaching. Means is playing for the University of Memphis. Fulmer faces months of embarrassment, subpoenas, and legal fees and may well have brought an NCAA investigation upon his own program. Reporters and lawyers get a big juicy case to work on. And football recruiting and "the sale of high school athletes for personal gain" in our community? One well-regarded Memphis high school football coach told a Flyer reporter that corruption is still alive and well in football recruiting. Still, we doubt that many promising linemen these days are fetching $200,000 or $150,000 or whatever combination of cash, cars, and houses Lang plans to allege if and when he finally takes the witness stand against Young. An NCAA investigation would have accomplished as much. Criminalizing the process was a questionable and apparently unwise decision. On the football field, it's called piling on, and the penalty is 15 yards. In the courtroom, it's called getting the case dismissed before trial. In this case, a lot of people probably are wishing today that it had never gotten to federal court, period. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] RE: Penguin Whacking
1213.9 http://www.rolltidefan.net/Attachments/wee.jpg SWING THE DAMB BAT YA BUNCHA NOODLE ARMED GIRLIE GIRLS!!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Coach Teague
http://www.dallasnews.com/s/dws/spt/city/tarrant/stories/012504dnsponorteague.57f64.html Former Cowboys safety to coach football at Harvest Christian 06:39 PM CST on Saturday, January 24, 2004 By RICK KRETZSCHMAR / Special Contributor to The Dallas Morning News George Teague slowly walks around the Harvest Christian weight room. His face is relaxed as he helps athletes with lifting weights and running on a treadmill. He even cracks a little smile. It's different from his NFL playing days, when his determined looks on the sideline foreshadowed intensity on the field, accompanied with many big hits. It's also quite a change from Teague's original plans. "I said I would never coach on the high school level. The NFL. That's where all my leads were going," Teague said. "But for whatever reason, God has sent me to where I need to be." Teague started his head-coaching career at Harvest Christian this week. It starts a new phase of life for the former NFL safety, who played nine years for the Cowboys, Green Bay Packers and Miami Dolphins. In his playing career in the NFL, and at the University of Alabama, Teague was exposed to several standout coaches, including Jimmy Johnson and Gene Stallings. Teague said he hopes is style includes elements from Johnson, Dave Campo and Dick Jauron. Campo is a former coach for the Cowboys. Jauron, who was recently fired as the coach of the Chicago Bears, was a defensive backs coach when Teague played for the Packers. "Coach Jauron was very understanding. He's a players' coach," Teague said. "Campo is a little fireplug, a great motivator. "Jimmy Johnson is the dictator, the guy with the authority." Teague replaces Rick Jackson, who resigned in November. Teague was a volunteer assistant coach under Jackson last season. Harvest Christian athletic director Ray DeBord said Jackson resigned for personal reasons. Jackson was 9-13 in two seasons at Harvest Christian, including a playoff berth in 2002. Jackson could not be reached for comment. DeBord said he was sad to see Jackson go, especially since he coached Jackson in football in L.D. Bell in the 1970s. In Teague however, DeBord said his school has a rare opportunity with Teague's background. DeBord said he asked Teague in early December, around the Harvest Classic basketball tournament. DeBord said he expects an impact for the school in students wanting to come to Harvest Christian to play under Teague. "If I had a chance to play for George Teague, I would do it in a drop of a hat," DeBord said. Teague will coordinate Harvest Christian's senior and junior high football programs. He will also coordinate the school's weight-lifting program. Teague has a son, James, who is in the fifth grade at Harvest Christian and could play for Harvest Christian's junior high program next season. Teague said a chance to possibly coach his son was a factor, but not a primary factor in taking the job. Teague also has a 4-year-old daughter, Jada, who could enroll this fall or in 2005. Teague said he plans on designing specific training plans for boys and girls that focus on their particular sport. Sharon Mitchell, a junior cheerleader, said there is already an excitement through the athletic program because of Teague. Austin Berry, a sophomore who plays quarterback and free safety for the football team, said he expects weight training to be emphasized throughout program. Berry got a taste of Teague's coaching style last fall and said that Teague does not have a laid back attitude toward the game. "He's not gentle, but he will joke around with the team," Berry said. "What he wants is for you to do your best." There are still organizational parts of Teague's job to be done. He is still looking to fill out his assistant coaches without a phone line. He'll also be making considerably less money if he had gone to a large public school, and a small fraction of what he made in the NFL. Yet there may not be a value for what Teague is getting. "This opportunity, when you get your own deal ... it's just exciting," Teague said. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] NCAA should fix its badly flawed system
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2004401250379 NCAA should fix its badly flawed system January 25, 2004 I promise that the NCAA has not permanently hijacked my column. At some point in the near future, it will return to worthy topics like Mike Shula’s recruiting year, or the success of Sarah Patterson’s gymnastics teams, or Mark Gottfried’s basketball team and its surprising ride up the RPI rankings. This is not going to turn into a space for the weekly entertainment of a few devoted cultists, like some weekly “Star Trek" rerun or “Our Favorite Visigoths" on The History Channel. The main purpose is to be about sports, and it will be about sports soon -- but not today. Instead, it is time to once again address a critical point that affects both the past of the Alabama football case, and the possible future of all the litigation that stems from that case. That issue is the use of confidential source testimony. In the last week or so, two separate articles have appeared (one in The Birmingham Post-Herald, one on Sports Illustrated’s Internet site, SI.com) making an identical claim -- the claim that the NCAA “didn’t use any secret witnesses" in its case against Alabama. If such a claim had appeared in just one place, it might be written off a writer’s opinion. But it appeared in two different places, and SI.com even said that “SI.com has learned that ..." So it’s clearly a tack being floated by someone of the NCAA side of the issue. And that would be fine. There is certainly nothing wrong with reporters using sources and forming conclusions from that information. But a week ago, an NCAA spokesman was griping about “the cavalier treatment of confidential documents." At the same time, someone on the NCAA side -- maybe in Indianapolis, maybe elsewhere -- was discussing what did or did not occur in an Infractions Committee hearing that was supposed to be -- you guessed it -- confidential. In other words, it is yet another moment that will soon be available on “NCAA Hypocrisy: The Five-DVD Set." More importantly is that regardless of what anyone has “learned," the issue is, at the very best, somewhat hazy. The NCAA’s “no secret witness" position is based on the proposition that the “confidential source" named in the Infractions Report (and widely reputed to be a Birmingham recruiting analyst) wasn’t really a “secret" because he had been identified to Alabama officials and “waived" onto the record by someone at UA. Even if one accepts that semantic wrangling, there are issues. Did the confidential source ever agree to go “on the record," as NCAA bylaws require? Was he ever identified to the Committee on Infractions? Was the waiver, ill-advised as it was, a “blanket" waiver, or was it specific to certain issues? And there is more. Even if the “confidential source" was waived into the record, what about the “administrator ... and his coaches" unknown to Alabama whose testimony was discussed? Alabama raised that issue on appeal. Was that a rival SEC athletic director? Was it a coach? And there is still more. At one point in its rebuttal appeal brief (Page 21), Alabama notes a curious discrepancy in the Infractions Report, where the Committee refers to “the witness" as testifying in the summer of 2000 that “the assistant high-school coach [Milton Kirk]" was “upset and might talk." That didn’t seem to fit the “waived" source, the recruiting analyst, because, as UA notes, that source “did not even know the assistant coach in question." Now, it has come out that there were some confidential sources in Memphis who did know that coach and knew him well -- but how could the Committee of Infractions have known about his testimony? If it wasn’t introduced at the hearing, as it apparently was not, did it come to the Committee on Infractions through some back door? If that’s what happened, that opens a whole new can of worms, even uglier than the worms we already have at hand. Much of this might be resolved if the NCAA would release a full transcript of the hearing, instead of clinging to “confidentiality." Even then, it might be hard to draw a conclusion with certainty. As it is, no definitive statement that “no secret witnesses were used" carries any weight. No matter what anyone might have “learned," one thing has definitely been “learned" in this process -- you can’t accept what the NCAA says at face value. This is, of course, a two-sided process. At this point, the other side -- primarily Tommy Gallion, the attorney for Ivy Williams and Ronnie Cottrell -- has made a lot of accusations and not a great deal of proof. Gallion says the proof is forthcoming. When it comes, it should be scrutinized with the same intensity as the NCAA position, and any discrepancies or flaws should be reported in the same way. That’s why the process should be open, and all documents made available -- so the public can have as much information as possibl
Re: [RollTideFan] Hero or tattletale?
Jeff Todd wrote: "I'm getting ready to pop that fat bastard as hard as I can," the attorney said. Kick ass and take names!! kurt I hate Tennessee and so should you! ($1) __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] JOboo hits the beech!
Pat Smoot wrote: Sorry, Krut, but I've seen Jobu & his butt don't look like that. Nice try though. DYGA? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] JOboo hits the beech!
IAWTP!! kurt Jamie Watts wrote: GOOOD LAD That was discustingJamie --- kurt rasmussen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/125567/870663Jobu1.jpeg http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/125567/870666Jobu2.jpeg http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/125567/870667Jobu3.jpeg Ouch... __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Kewl... (non)
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[RollTideFan] JOboo hits the beech!
http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/125567/870663Jobu1.jpeg http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/125567/870666Jobu2.jpeg http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/125567/870667Jobu3.jpeg Ouch... kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] The NCAA...
Swift and all business when it comes to punishment! http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/sports/7766389.htm For an hour anyway. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Escape from Neverland (non)
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Re: [RollTideFan] Dammittall!
Jeff Todd wrote: TUSCALOOSA -- The University of Alabama's scoring leader, junior guard Earnest Shelton, sprained his right MCL in Wednesday night's Georgia game and will be out indefinitely. DAMNITDAMNITDAMNITDAMNITDAMNITDAMNIT!!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] PETTWAY!!!
Hits a three. Bama 45 Jawja 42 ON THE DANG ROAD!! ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Damnit BAMA!
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/boxscore?gid=200401210230 Jawja 22 Bama 18 At the half. Win on the freakin road! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA Investigation
Jeff Todd wrote: I couldn't care less about Tennessee. I'm still riding high over BAMA's 2002 victory in Neyland Stadium! Nothing else really matters, does it? Deer Mr. Slef, Here is yore hook I spit back at chew. Without the worm. :) Well, I see you swallowed the protein. heh.. Oh wait... BITE ME!!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] NCAA Investigation
Jeff Todd wrote: I couldn't care less about Tennessee. I'm still riding high over BAMA's 2002 victory in Neyland Stadium! Nothing else really matters, does it? Deer Mr. Slef, Here is yore hook I spit back at chew. Without the worm. :) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] heh...
http://www.catsprn.com/truth_in_advertising.htm nsfw kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Burns The Barn
Rick McMahan wrote: Bama just spanked Aubie's ass tonight. Final: Tide - 69 Barn - 46 Alabama's record: 10-4, 2-1 REESE!! That was pretty damb funny. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Fulmer and the NCAA Sucks
Rick McMahan wrote: "I hate Tennessee and so should you" ($1) IAWTP! ROLL DAMN TIDE!! Beat the hell out of awbarn tonight!! IAWTP^2!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Auburn chief resigns over coach search
http://www.al.com/sportsflash/college/index.ssf?/base/sports-3/1074300842308130.xml Auburn chief resigns over coach search The Associated Press 1/16/2004, 6:48 p.m. CT AUBURN, Ala. (AP) -- Auburn president William Walker resigned Friday after enduring heavy criticism for the way he botched a football coaching search. Walker's resignation came two days after he met with Gov. Bob Riley to discuss problems facing the school. The 66-year-old Walker, who had been president of the university for 19 months, said he hoped his resignation would "mark the beginning of a new day at Auburn." There was no immediate word on who would succeed him on an interim basis, but executive vice president Donald Large was expected to handle duties until a decision is made. Walker, athletic director David Housel and two trustees secretly flew to meet with Louisville head coach Bobby Petrino on Nov. 20, two days before Auburn played Alabama. Neither Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville nor Louisville officials were informed of the trip, and a firestorm of criticism erupted when it became public. In the end, Tuberville got a one-year extension to stay on as coach. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools also placed Auburn on 12-month probation, saying the university had not prevented a minority of trustees from micromanaging the school. "I am hopeful that my decision to step down as president will mark the beginning of a new day at Auburn and that all members of the Auburn family will put aside their differences and work together to refocus Auburn on its true land grant mission of instruction, outreach and research," Walker said. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Deer BAMA plas..
For those of you not keeping up, the chit is (potentially?) gonna hit the fan. Identifying Phil Fulmer as a secret witness in the NCAA case against Bama, and telling damn lies while doing it.. kurt I hate Tennessee and so should you! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Bama bounceyball
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Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Krut....
Joe Goodson wrote: TREE HUGGER!!! When one door of happiness closes, another opens; but often we look so long at the closed door that we do not see the one which has opened for us Author: Helen Keller Joe's on to something here. Helen Keller otta know about not seeing *.* kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Deer Jay Lisby!
J.E. Lisby wrote: Be careful out there.. http://courier-journal.com/cjsports/news2004/01/13/spt-front-poe0113-15640.html > Good Lord Almighty!!! :^) Incredible how some folks that are relatively smart can get involved in something so stupid. Incredible. I dunno 'bout that. 27 year disassociation from UK football.. Dood's prolly on his knees hollerin' HALLELUJAH!1! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Deer Jay Lisby!
Be careful out there.. http://courier-journal.com/cjsports/news2004/01/13/spt-front-poe0113-15640.html kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Deere Krut....
Joel Perry wrote: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040104/desu004_1.html Can you say 'employee discount'? Have ya seen it? http://autoshow.edmunds.com/news/autoshow/articles/100916/page020.html?tid=edmunds.e.autoshow..leftnav.21.* Ya ready to git rid of the Caddy yet? kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Shoulda bought a 'Compact'? (non)
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Re: [RollTideFan] For the baseball fans
Jeff Todd wrote: You can add mySlef to the list of baseball fans. I love MLB! The college game would be much better if they'd melt those damn aluminum bats. Baseball RLABOSD! And metal bats are the suck! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Ben Pollard
Rick McMahan wrote: I'll wait two more years...then I will start my criticism of Shula if he deserves it. Kines needs to go though. It's pretty obvious what Coach Shula has to do isn't it. The sooner he starts winning the better... Development time ain't gonna last forever. IAWTP!! BAMA ain't Aubrin! ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] I...Can't...Drive.. 55!!1!
http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/123038/852185CHRYSLER!.jpeg Chryslers ROOL!! kurt ($1) to LC __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] From my mom
> This is the newest dwelling in the neighborhood. This is what you call > real winter fun. If you want to enjoy it in person, come visit. I uploaded the image for her here. http://home.bellsouth.net/coDataImages/p/Groups/29/29335/folders/123038/852148IMG0668.jpg She can have it! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] blew it
Tim Boozer wrote: Up by 10 and blew it. Fruck! 12 DAMNIT! What a perfect chance for a SEC _ROAD_ win! CRAP!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Daniels not coming back to Alabama next season
http://www.al.com/printer/printer.ssf?/base/sports/1073729893142020.xml Daniels not coming back to Alabama next season Linebacker has sights set on NFL after missing 2003 season 01/10/04 By THOMAS MURPHY Sports Reporter Alabama linebacker Brooks Daniels, who missed the 2003 season due to personal reasons, says he intends to apply for the upcoming NFL draft. "I've sat down with my mom (Mary Ann Daniels) and discussed it, with her saying, 'Brooks, you need to go back to school,'" Daniels said. "After New Year's, that's when my mom said she thought I should enter the draft, so I'm planning on entering the draft." Daniels, who said he is in the process of finding an agent, has a Jan. 15 deadline to apply as an underclassman for April's draft. The Jennings, Fla., native withdrew from school before the start of fall camp for what coach Mike Shula termed medical reasons. "I don't care about saying anything about that," Daniels said. "I've been living here (in Tuscaloosa) basically through the whole season, me and my wife (Melissa) and son (Brooks Jr.)." On Thursday, Shula said he had not spoken to Daniels, but that "our arms are open" to accept Daniels back on the team. "I know he's not in school right now," Shula said. "That doesn't rule him out for next year. When he left school, his (five-year eligibility) clock stopped. I think there's going to come a point where (not being in school) is going to become a factor. It's not right now or else I would say otherwise." Daniels kept in touch with Tide defensive players Antwan Odom and Anthony Bryant during the season and resumed his workouts in December. He said he's not too concerned about his marketability after a year-long layoff. "If they look back at what I've done here, (they'll see) back-to-back 100-tackle seasons and a guy who loves the game," he said. Daniels was the first player in Alabama history with consecutive 100-tackle seasons when he posted 102 tackles in 2001 and 110 stops in 2002. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] I liked Otis Nixon... (non)
http://www.al.com/sportsflash/baseball/index.ssf?/base/sports-4/1073618342144023.xml Former Braves OF Otis Nixon arrested The Associated Press 1/8/2004, 9:11 p.m. CT NORCROSS, Ga. (AP) -- Former Atlanta Braves center fielder Otis Nixon was charged with aggravated assault Thursday after being accused of pulling a knife on his bodyguard at a motel, police said. Gwinnett County Police responded to a report about a fight at the motel early Thursday morning and were told that Nixon, 44, had argued with Kevin Brown and threatened to "cut your heart out," police Cpl. Dan Huggins said. "According to Brown and to witnesses, they got into a verbal altercation and Nixon pulled a knife and threatened Mr. Brown with the knife," Huggins said. He said Brown was not cut. Nixon was taken to the Gwinnett County Jail, and was released on $3,350 bond. Nixon stole 620 bases, 17th on the all-time list, in a 17-year major league career with nine teams from 1983 through 1999. He played for the Braves from 1991 through 1993 and again in '99. He holds the Braves' single-season record for stolen bases with 72 in 1991. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] If ya care... (non)
Kneebraska got a coach. http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_np=0&u_pg=38&u_sid=969160&PHPSESSID=d21e3430262931ec9ee2d2bc5aeac64e kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] $30 million in scholorships?
No thanks. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=1703748 SAN DIEGO -- Unhappy with college football's split national championship, the head of a computer company thought he could entice Southern California and LSU to play each other later this month by offering $30 million in scholarship money. The NCAA quickly hit the "delete" button, saying there was no way such a game could be played. Ted Waitt, chairman and CEO of Gateway Inc., which is based in the San Diego suburb of Poway, offered each school $10 million in scholarships for disadvantaged students if they'd play each other the weekend of Jan. 24-25. The winner would have gotten an additional $10 million in scholarships and $1 million in Gateway products. "Everybody wants to see it happen," Waitt said. "It'd be fun. But everybody is afraid of the NCAA. We just want to know one good reason why this can't happen." Waitt made his proposal in letters faxed Thursday to LSU Chancellor Mark Emmert, USC President Steven Sample and NCAA President Myles Brand. "It's just not as simple or easy as doing that," said Wally Renfro, the senior adviser to Brand. "Decisions about postseason football are made by the membership of the association. Those two institutions would not be able to make that decision in any event. "Right now, by the bylaws, it couldn't happen." And the NCAA wouldn't jump even with $30 million in scholarships up for grabs? "No," Renfro said. Besides numerous logistical problems, games aren't allowed after Jan. 4, which was the date of the Sugar Bowl. USC was No. 1 in both the AP media poll and USA Today/ESPN coaches' poll at the end of the regular season, but slipped behind No. 2 LSU and No. 3 Oklahoma in the computers and the final BCS standings because of a weaker strength of schedule. LSU won the BCS national championship by beating Oklahoma in the Sugar Bowl while USC won The Associated Press title by beating Michigan in the Rose Bowl. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Stupid People News
Who woulda ever thunk it? http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=757&e=10&u=/ap/20040108/ap_on_re_us/mega_millions_winner kurt Jeff Todd wrote: http://snipurl.com/3oap - Original Message - From: "Joel Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'RollTideFan'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, January 06, 2004 7:59 AM Subject: [RollTideFan] Stupid People News Woman claims $162 million Mega Millions ticket lost __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Ben Pollard
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here, here Gary. I concur. I'm interested in what others have to say. Coach Pollard seems like he would have been the last coach to let go. On the surface, it seems like a VERY poor move. Yup. I'm waiting to hear/read what CMS and Pollard have to say. Here's an article from the Tuscaloosa news. kurt http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040108/NEWS/401080325/1067 CECIL HURT: Shula’s lone staff move is unexpected one January 08, 2004 Email this story. Football notebook… After all the speculation about possible football staff changes at the University of Alabama, Crimson Tide coach Mike Shula made an unexpected one on Wednesday. In a move that was first reported Wednesday on Tidesports.com, a Tuscaloosa News Web site, Shula hired Seattle Seahawks strength coach Kent Johnston and released the Tide’s popular strength and conditioning coach, Ben Pollard. “I have known Kent since my playing days at Alabama and I knew if I had an opportunity to hire him I would do so," Shula said in a UA release on Wednesday night. “Kent’s credentials are certainly representative of his outstanding work in the NFL, and I look forward to having him here." Johnston plans to be on campus by Friday. Pollard, reached for comment at his Tuscaloosa home, said that he would wait until after Shula’s news conference today before making a statement. Johnston worked at Alabama from 1983-86 under head strength coach Al Miller. Shula was a Crimson Tide player at that time. When Tide head coach Ray Perkins left for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the National Football League, Johnston joined Perkins’ staff. He has worked at the NFL level since that time, in Tampa Bay, Green Bay and Seattle. Pollard came to Alabama as part of the staff brought in by former Crimson Tide head coach Dennis Franchione. When Franchione departed for Texas A&M in December 2002, Pollard declined an offer to go to College Station and elected to remain in Tuscaloosa. He was retained as strength coach by Franchione’s successor, Mike Price, and remained in the position when Shula was hired in May 2003. As the lone holdover from the Franchione staff, Pollard was widely credited with holding the team together during two coaching searches. Despite fairly constant speculation, Shula -- who has stressed “stability" in many of his postseason comments -- has made no other changes on the Crimson Tide coaching staff at this point. One reason why stability might seem like a good thing, despite a 4-9 season, has been a steady stream of recruiting successes in recent weeks. That continued Wednesday, when Prattville tight end Travis McCall (6-foot-4, 235 pounds) joined teammate Kevin Hamilton in committing to the Tide. The beat is expected to go on today as Antoine Caldwell of Lee-Montgomery, one of the state’s top offensive linemen, has an afternoon press conference where he is expected to pick the Crimson Tide over Auburn. Caldwell’s expected commitment would be the Tide’s 20th, in a year when Alabama has only 19 slots available due to NCAA sanctions. The Tide is expected to oversign, perhaps by as many as five players, due to possible academic issues for some signees. It is also possible that one or more of the Tide’s commitments will defer enrollment for a semester -- a process known informally as “grayshirting." A prospect who enrolls at mid-term can be counted on the Tide’s 2005 numbers, when a full complement of 25 will be available. One intriguing possibility is Hillcrest running back Markus Manson. He has reportedly been wavering on his commitment to Florida, and he has scheduled an official visit to Alabama later this month. Cecil Hurt is sports editor of The Tuscaloosa News. He can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] THANKEE JAVVY!
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[RollTideFan] Shula to replace strength coach with Kent Johnston
http://www.tidesports.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20040107/NEWS/40107002/1011 TUSCALOOSA | University of Alabama head football coach Mike Shula will announce at least one change on the Crimson Tide coaching staff at a Thursday press conference. Shula will announce that Kent Johnston, strength and conditioning coach of the Seattle Seahawks, will take the same position with the Crimson Tide, The Tuscaloosa News has learned. Johnston replaces Ben Pollard. Pollard was not immediately available for comment on Wednesday afternoon. Johnston worked at Alabama from 1983-1986 under head strength coach Al Miller. Shula was a Crimson Tide player at that time. When Tide head coach Ray Perkins left for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers of the National Football League, Johnston joined Perkins’ staff. He has worked at the NFL level since that time, in Tampa Bay, Green Bay and Seattle. Pollard came to Alabama as part of the staff brought in by former Crimson Tide head coach Dennis Franchione. When Franchione departed for Texas A&M in December 2002, Pollard declined an offer to go to College Station, and elected to remain in Tuscaloosa. He was retained as strength coach by Franchione’s successor, Mike Price, and remained in the position when Shula was hired in May 2003. Sports Editor Cecil Hurt can be reached at [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Don't Fix It; It's Not Broken?
http://www.opinionjournal.com/la/?id=110004518 Don't Fix It; It's Not Broken Who says college football should have just one No. 1 team? BY ALLEN BARRA Wednesday, January 7, 2004 12:00 a.m. The methods for deciding the No. 1 team in college football go back at least to Walter Camp in the late 1880s, when Yale, Princeton and Harvard dominated the game. For some fans, all the systems, up to and including the Bowl Championship Series games (which this year saw Southern Cal defeat Michigan 28-14 in the Rose Bowl and LSU beat Oklahoma 21-14 in the Sugar Bowl), have had one thing in common: They don't work. There was scarcely a season when the fans of at least one team didn't think it was cheated by the so-called opinion polls. Of course, there was a redeeming flip side: The followers of several different colleges often ended the season claiming that their school was the best. The 1966 season ended in perhaps the most famous of all college-football-poll debates. With two weeks left in the season, Notre Dame was ranked first, Michigan State second, and defending national champion Alabama third. The Fighting Irish and the Spartans played to a hugely publicized tie; Alabama finished the season unbeaten and untied yet still wound up third, at least according to the Associated Press poll of sportswriters and the United Press International poll of college coaches. Alabama fans printed bumper stickers that read "To Hell with AP and UPI--'Bama is Number One." The controversy had the happy effect of keeping college football alive in the off-season. "To say that people argued about the 1966 championship for months is an understatement," says Paul Finebaum, a Birmingham-based sportswriter and radio personality. "In Alabama, you can work up a hot argument today by mentioning the '66 polls, often with people who weren't even born till years later." The 1973 season was another banner year for "Who's No. 1?" aficionados. Notre Dame finished first in the AP poll, while Alabama topped UPI's. Both teams claimed the then-mythical national championship. So did Penn State, which finished the season with a perfect record. Its coach, Joe Paterno, had championship rings made for his players. "Whose poll did you win?" asked a sportswriter. "The Paterno poll!" the coach fired back. More than 200 teams have claimed some sort of major college-football championship at one time or another. Because of the number of teams involved and the shortness of the season, no satisfactory playoff system has ever been agreed on. Nor did many in college football think one was needed. The late Southern Cal coach John McKay summed up their attitude: "We've got an ideal situation with lots of teams in all parts of the country happy and plenty of glory to go around. Why do we have to have just one big winner?" Why indeed? The simplest explanation is offered by Bill Curry, the former Georgia Tech and Alabama coach and current ESPN analyst, who comments: "Like so many things in college football, there's a pull in the direction of the pro game. The NFL has a Super Bowl, so some media people think college football has to have one, too." Given the impracticality of a major college football playoff, the Bowl Championship Series was supposed to be a compromise, combining the old "opinion" polls with the newer computer rankings in order to pit the two best teams in the country in a winner-takes-all bowl game. But as with so many compromises, the BCS (which was born in 1998 when 63 teams in six of the biggest conferences pooled their influence in an attempt to create an "official" national champion) has caused more controversy than the system it replaced. In the words of the University of Alabama in Birmingham's George Ignatin, whose computer, Mad Max, ranked teams for The Wall Street Journal for several years, "The BCS plan preserves all the flaws of the opinion polls and compounds them with logical absurdities." If opinion polls are subjective, thinks Prof. Ignatin, "why not toss them out altogether? And if computer rankings are more accurate, why not let the programmers make their own selections instead of the BCS limiting them with predetermined guidelines?" (This year, the BCS told its analysts not to consider margin of victory when ranking teams.) Adjusting the system to pick better teams, however, isn't necessarily the point. "The more you build up the BCS championship game," says Prof. Ignatin, "the less interest you'll find in the other bowl games. This year, through a fluke, the BCS lucked out: The Rose Bowl attracted some additional interest when it gained some national championship implications, as most analysts regard Southern Cal as the best team in the country. So fans interested in the national championship race probably watched both the Rose and Sugar Bowls. But then, before the BCS you used to have a situation like that almost every year." Most traditionalists would agree on one th
[RollTideFan] Namath clears room on mantel for diploma
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/2003-12-10-namath-degree_x.htm Namath clears room on mantel for diploma By Peter Barzilai, USA TODAY "Broadway Joe" is about to become "College Graduate Joe." Joe Namath needed 15 credits to graduate from Alabama when left school to join the New York Jets as a flashy quarterback in 1965, but now the 60-year-old has returned to Tuscaloosa to earn his degree, according to The New York Times. "Most of it I can do at my pace, but I've been back to Tuscaloosa a few times," he told The Times on Tuesday. "I've taken a humanities course on Vietnam and a writing course. I'm down to my last two courses, a writing course and a senior project." Namath said he was persuaded to go back to school by professional golfer Jerry Pate, an Alabama graduate. "Jerry went back years later and graduated, so did several football players," Namath said. "When I first went to Alabama, I wanted to major in commerce, but as a football player, I was told to take elementary education and history. "Now that I'm back there some 40 years later, I'm a little embarrassed, but everybody keeps telling me it's great." Namath lives in Florida with his daughters, 18-year-old Jessica and 13-year-old Olivia, and works for ESPN Classic. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] For my aura Tee Eff plas..
Santa and his reindeer. http://web.icq.com/shockwave/0,,4845,00.swf kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] In case ya ain't seen it..
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Re: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game
Amoebae Baybee!! kurt Jeff Todd wrote: Let's say LSU wins. Saban becomes the highest paid college football coach. Now, what happens if another coach has a similar clause that guarantees he'll be the highest paid college coach? Sum Won is gonna get PAYED! Slef E. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2003 1:08 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] speakin' of the OU/LSU game Saban is shirley gonna do everything he can.. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2003/writers/mike_fish/12/09/bcs/index.html The computer nerds cut Stoops & Co. huge slack. But the real winner is LSU coach Nick Saban, still positioned to collect on a contract clause requiring the school to "pay him at least $1 more than the highest-paid college football coach" within 30 days of winning a BCS title. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Accrediting agency places Auburn University on probation
http://www.tuscaloosanews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20031209/APN/312090985 Accrediting agency places Auburn University on probation The Associated Press December 09, 2003 Auburn University was placed on 12 months probation by an accrediting agency Tuesday after a two-year investigation into trustees' involvement in the school's daily affairs. The Southern Association of Colleges and Schools handed down the sanction, which was one step short of revoking Auburn's accreditation. A loss of accreditation would have meant the loss of hundreds of millions of dollars in federal funding. SACS does not release specific details of its report, instead listing only the requirements a school has failed to meet. The report noted five requirements Auburn fell short of, including administrative oversight of the athletics department by the school's chief executive officer. The report also said Auburn failed to meet a catch-all requirement that colleges cooperate with the accreditation process. Auburn released a short statement saying it was "disappointed and surprised" by the probation. The university emphasized that it remains fully accredited, and that students' financial aid is intact. "Auburn University will continue its strong pattern of progress and growth and increasing quality of programs, witnessed in recent years," the statement said. President William Walker declined comment. Trustee and state legislator Jack Venable said he had not seen the SACS ruling and declined comment. Trustee Jimmy Rane did not immediately return a phone call seeking comment. Though Walker and various trustees have been under fire recently for a secret football coach-hunting trip they took to Louisville, Ky., the problems cited by SACS related to a separate, earlier complaint. A group of faculty in April 2001 asked the agency to look into allegations that a small minority of trustees was micromanaging the university. Then-interim president Walker sued to block the investigation, and a federal judge eventually appointed Georgia attorney Richard Y. Bradley as an independent investigator. Bradley's first report in January 2003 found the trustees were complying with SACS standards. The agency asked him to conduct a more detailed report, which a judge sealed Sept. 8 because it included trustees' private financial records. A SACS commission decided to put Auburn on probation based on Bradley's reports. The commission will re-evaluate Auburn in December 2004, after the university submits a follow-up report and a SACS special committee visits the school. At that point, SACS could remove Auburn from probation, extend its probation or revoke its accreditation, said Jack Allen, associate executive director for the agency. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] MSU... More details
http://www.clarionledger.com/news/0312/08/wncaa2.html kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Baby you can drive my car..
http://www.al.com/sportsflash/collegefootball/index.ssf?/newsflash/get_story.ssf?/cgi-free/getstory_ssf.cgi?s0451_BC_FBC--MississippiSt-NC&&sports&al_collegefb NCAA: Improper conduct by Sherrill, assistants By RALPH D. RUSSO The Associated Press 12/8/03 9:42 PM JACKSON, Miss. (AP) -- A Mississippi State recruit's grandfather told investigators that retired coach Jackie Sherrill offered to provide the player a car, the NCAA said in its report on alleged rules violations by the football program. The 22-page document, released Monday by the school, lists 13 possible violations that occurred from 1998-02. Several of the alleged violations involved assistant coach Glenn Davis and former assistant Jerry Fremin giving cash and gifts and offering improper benefits to prospective student-athletes and their families. Mississippi State's response to the NCAA's notice of allegations, known as an official letter of inquiry, is due by March 2. A message left for Sherrill at his home was not immediately returned Monday night. Athletic director Larry Templeton said the university would not comment on the allegations or the specifics of the investigation until the university's attorneys submit a response. Mississippi State has been cooperating with the NCAA and assisting with the investigation for the past 2½ years, the university said in a release. There were no allegations of academic misconduct or of lack of institutional control, the most serious charge that could be brought by the NCAA. In March, Mississippi State received a preliminary letter of inquiry from the NCAA which said it was looking into the possibility of those types of violations. Mississippi State hired Sylvester Croom last week to replace Sherrill, making Croom the first black head football coach in the Southeastern Conference. The Bulldogs are 8-27 since 2001, with just three Southeastern Conference victories. They were 2-10 this season, the school's worst since 1988. Sherrill, who retired last month after 13 seasons with Mississippi State, was mentioned in two of allegations. One involved the recruitment of Joseph Scott, a linebacker from Hattiesburg (Miss.) High School who ended up signing with Southern Mississippi. The other involved the recruitment of offensive lineman Chris Spencer, an offensive lineman from Madison Central (Miss.) High School who attends Mississippi. According the notice of allegations, the mother of a Mississippi State student-athlete told Scott's grandmother, Ardasene Scott, during a phone conversation that Sherrill got her son "a nice ride." During another telephone conversation, Ardasene Scott asked Fremin if Sherrill would obtain a vehicle for her grandson. Fremin told the woman that Sherrill would discuss that matter during Joseph Scott's official visit to Mississippi State and "take care of it," according to the NCAA's report. On Scott's official visit, Sherrill told Scott's grandfather that he was "working on what they had been talking about," the report states. Scott's grandfather told his wife that their grandson would not attend Mississippi State because he believed Sherrill offered them a car, the report stated. Scott transferred from Southern Miss, played in junior college and is now attending Jackson State. In the other case involving Sherrill, Spencer's stepfather, Ben Wallace, said Sherrill told him that he would make sure that Spencer and his family were taken care of, and that if Wallace was in need of employment or anything, to call Sherrill, the NCAA report stated. Fremin, who worked as an offensive line coach for Mississippi State for four seasons, was accused in the report of paying travel and lodging expenses for an unofficial recruitment visit Scott made to Starkville. The report also alleged that Fremin arranged for a Mississippi State booster to make improper contact with recruits and arrange impermissible employment for prospective student-athletes. Fremin resigned in March 2001. The university cited health reasons. On his attorney's recommendation, Fremin declined to comment on the report. Among the allegations against Davis, he's accused of giving a recruit, Kenneth Griffith of Brandon High School, $800 to pay for summer school classes Griffith needed to be able to satisfy the NCAA's initial eligibility requirements. Davis denied any wrongdoing when the allegation was first reported by a newspaper in April. Griffith signed with Southern Miss, but ended up attending junior college. Mississippi State's football program was found guilty of major NCAA infractions in 1996 and received one year probation and a loss of scholarships. Because the current allegations go back to 1998, Mississippi State could be dealt with as a repeat violator by the NCAA, which could lead to harsher penalties being imposed. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "
[RollTideFan] When it's all said and done..
Iyam thinking the BCS result is rite. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Does anyone think
Jest for the record, y'all both gonna play in the sooper sekret bowel brackets aren't ya? :) kurt Jeff Todd wrote: Grape Mines Tinkalike! Slef E. - Original Message - From: "Rick McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2003 7:08 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] Does anyone think The Sooners will embarrass the Bengal Tigers, there is no doubt in my mind. That K. State game was nothing but a fluke. LSU is a very good team, I give them all the credit in the world, but Okie will be 100% focused in this game and they will spank the hell out of LSU. JMHO. And to be honest, I hope like hell they do... ROLL Tide! Rick Jeff Todd wrote: LSU has a chance against OU? I shorely don't. Slef E. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] UTEP can't lose by hiring Mike Price
http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/sports/joemuench/20031207-53650.shtml UTEP can't lose by hiring Mike Price Joe Muench El Paso Times There's a first-ever opportunity for El Paso to hire a big-name football coach for a UTEP salary. It's because he'd come with baggage. It's obvious the fans and the boosters want Mike Price. The hoopla is there, so far everything but a parade. And it appears school President Diana Natalicio likely won't decree a thumbs down because of that alleged topless bar, hotel room thing that resulted in Price being fired by Alabama before he ever coached a game. The reasoning on Natalicio coming up. But first: Bad investments Forever, UTEP has purchased coaches from the Dollar Store. Nord, the highest paid ever, has a contract for $149,350 a year. Reports are it's the lowest among the 10 WAC head coaches. Quite possibly that's one reason only two of eight UTEP head coaches since 1970 combined for three winning seasons and a bowl game each. One is Bob Stull (1987-88), now the athletics director. The other is Nord (2000), whom Stull fired Monday after three two-win seasons in a row. Price has been to two Rose Bowls with Washington State, 1997 and last year. From 1992-2002, he took teams to five bowls, including the 2001 Sun. His last two years at the new Pac 10 power saw 20 wins and five losses. The team he left behind is 9-3 this year and will play in the Holiday Bowl. Mike Price was so good on the sidelines at Washington State that he was hired last winter to coach Alabama, one of the top five storied programs in college football history. Then he was alegedly so naughty that one night on an outing in Florida -- he maintains it's exaggerated -- that Alabama fired him before he ever coached a game. It is the only stain on the reputation of the 57-year-old Price, who's been a football coach for 34 years. Price says he would expect UTEP to win games immediately. No five-year plans, like Nord's. He said salary is not an issue. He's certainly not commanding near the $1 million a year he'd have made at Alabama. Obvious answer Hire Price. Other ways and means haven't worked. Those eight coaches since Bobby Dobbs' 6-4 in 1970 were either head coaches at mid-level schools, assistants from big-time schools or were promoted from within, as were Nord and his predecessor, Charlie Bailey. Each had a new plan for a bad program. He ran the ball on offense. He passed. He put in the option offense (ouch). Few played defense. Nord redshirted his freshmen and announced he had a five-year plan. But years No. 2, 3 and 4 showed no progress being made. Price is a proven winner in the big time. Reports are that Miner fandom, by huge margins, favors Price. There's talk of payment packages by boosters for not only Price's salary, but to help pay for more experienced assistants than Nord could hire. But will Natalicio nix him, as did presidents with job openings at both Arizona and Nevada? The morality thing? Those two said no right from the start. It doesn't appear Natalicio is leaning toward a nix. Price's name was in the El Paso headlines much of last week. He's openly talked with the media. If Natalicio was going to thumb him away, she would have, through Stull, stopped the Price bandwagon days ago. Forget his baggage. Hire Mike Price. It's the right thing to do under the (years and years of losing) circumstances. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Judge: Mag Must Reveal Sources on Price
http://www.bradenton.com/mld/bradenton/sports/7445360.htm?template=contentModules/printstory.jsp Judge: Mag Must Reveal Sources on Price JAY REEVES Associated Press BIRMINGHAM, Ala. - Sports Illustrated and one of its writers must reveal confidential sources for an article that led to Alabama's firing of Mike Price, a judge ruled Monday. U.S. District Judge Lynwood Smith said the Alabama law protecting newspaper, television and radio reporters from being forced to disclose their sources doesn't extend to magazine reporters. "If the Legislature had intended for the scope of the statutory privilege to include magazines or other media, it could have done so clearly and unequivocally," Smith wrote. Price sued Time Inc., which publishes Sports Illustrated, and writer Don Yaeger for $20 million, alleging he was libeled and slandered by the article detailing Price's actions at a strip club in Pensacola, Fla. Alabama dismissed Price after he acknowledged drinking heavily and visiting the strip club the night before a golf outing. But Price denied the magazine's report that he had sex with two women at a hotel after leaving the bar. The judge said the coach needed to know the identity of Yaeger's sources to prove whether the allegations were true. Sports Illustrated spokesman Rick McCabe said the magazine was reviewing the ruling and "will decide what action is appropriate." Steve Heninger, Price's attorney, called the ruling "big." "It means getting out of Sports Illustrated's closet and into the open," Heninger said. [...] __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] And in the AP poll....
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings?poll=1 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Okrahoma... Which will most likely mean LSU/Oklahoma in the title game.. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Coaches poll
kurt rasmussen wrote: http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/clubhouse?collegeId=30 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Okrahoma... Ooops.. http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/rankings kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Coaches poll
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncaa/clubhouse?collegeId=30 1. USC 2. LSU 3. Okrahoma... kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Won year ago today part 2...
Great hire for Texas A&M By Trev Alberts Special to ESPN.com Whatever Franchione's motives, this is a great hire for Texas A&M. He's a phenomenal coach, and the Aggies will show marked improvement immediately. They will be disciplined and tough, and they'll play great defense. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Won year ago today...
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/sports/4679547.htm So, 'Bama fans, don't demean Texas A&M as a second-rate school from a one-stoplight town, harboring an Auburn-class football team. Any school that can recruit its lion's share of top Texas schoolboy talent can be a top-20 team every season. And with a Dennis Franchione as head coach, it can reasonably aspire even higher. [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Bama Wins
Ruck wrote: Final 65-47. The Tide dominated from the start. Earnest Shelton's kicking some ass! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Reminder: Bama Basketball
Rick McMahan wrote: The Tide plays Austin Peay this afternoon in Tuscaloosa; game starts at 4:00CST and CSS will televise. Lotta good that is for those of us who donut get CSS. ;) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] UTEP Gonna ROLL?!!1
http://www.borderlandnews.com/stories/sports/todaysstories/20031205-52864.shtml "Former Washington State coach Mike Price has a growing legion of local supporters since announcing his interest in the UTEP football job earlier this week. "I unequivocally support Price," El Paso attorney and longtime UTEP supporter Mace Miller, 36, said Thursday of the job that came open Monday when Athletics Director Bob Stull relieved Gary Nord of his duties. "If they don't hire Price, I'm going to need a good explanation." [...] kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] LUVERNE!! .. . ..
http://www.postherald.com/pr120403.shtml kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Croom becomes first black SEC coach
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mike: From what I understand (which is not the end-all be-all,) MSU did this thing right. They did interview several decent WHITE candidates as well. Get this...they even interviewed other BLACK candidates too! I don't think the hiring of Croom was a media ploy, he was the best person for the job. Had the powers that be at Alabama been thinking with their brain instead of testerone and a touch of racism, we would have Croom and probably done a *little* better than a 4 win season. You might be right. BAMA might have done a little better than 4 wins. We'll never know. But donut hide the fax that MSU's MAIN reason for hiring CSC was his his skin color. Too damn many benefits for them. And y'all know it. In addition, the Rev. JJ is a joke and everyone knows it. No one pays attention to Jesse's rants anymore than they would Al Sharpton. Yuppers. MSU didn't hire CSC because of pressure from teh black cockus. They did it it because it was a FSKING SMRAT THING TO DO at this juncture in MSU's history. And I'm proud they did!! They got a fan in me. CLANG CLANG! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Bowling for dollars
Real dollars. 10 bucks a shot, the bookie donut get no commission. Anyone wanna play? Got 7 or 8 signed up so far. No we don't know the exact rules yet, but we will make them clear. Reply _off-list_ to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you are so stoopid as to reply to the lists, to hell with ya. If we don't know who you are, to hell with ya. If the participants don't want you involved, to hell with ya. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Croom becomes first black SEC coach
Jeff Todd wrote: ESPN.com: College Football Monday, December 1, 2003 Croom becomes first black SEC coach CLANG CLANG!! Good on 'em! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Crap!
http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaab/boxscore?gid=200311290472 second half kick off see ya later! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] CHANG!!
Pay no attention to the fact I was worried about him! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] That was a great FSU/UF Game
Ruck is right!! Plus, Iyam over the Superior thing... (I think) kurt Rick McMahan wrote: That is my normal rule of thumb, but when the gaytors play the criminoles, I normally want the gaytors to win. I can't stand booby bowden and I hate the punks that he has playing for him. Rick Pat Smoot wrote: Why would you pull for the gayturs? They wear Orange. I don't pull for nuthin wearing orange. - Original Message - From: "Rick McMahan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I watched most of the criminoles/gaytor game...man what a finish! Wish the Gators could have pulled out the victory though. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] That was a great FSU/UF Game
Rick McMahan wrote: I watched most of the criminoles/gaytor game...man what a finish! Wish the Gators could have pulled out the victory though. Me too. Buncha FSU punks! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] I hope this is near Aloha Stadium
http://citycams.co.honolulu.hi.us/maunalua.large.html Iyam nervous about all that passing and shit. kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Know what?
It don't feel like I'm fixing to watch a bowl game... ROLL TIDE ANYWAY! !! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Prolly gonna rain
Rick McMahan wrote: Well, Kines' defense sure as hell won't! :) Yup. No sense in them even trying. They couldn't sack Chang even if there wasn't an offensive line Hey JOE KINES. READ THIS!! ! http://www.rolltide.com/livestats/football/2002/bama13.htm#GAME.TEM Sacks By: Number-Yards 4-30 ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Prolly gonna rain
http://www.weather.com/weather/hourbyhour/USHI0026 I hope so. Might slow down that passing game. ROLL TIDE ANYWAY! !1 ($1) kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Croom will decide over the weekend
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[RollTideFan] Alabama shows it's first-class program
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2003/Nov/28/sp/sp01a.html Posted on: Friday, November 28, 2003 Alabama shows it's first-class program By Stephen Tsai Advertiser Staff Writer Wealth is measured not only in how the other half lives but how it travels. Wednesday afternoon, the Alabama football team arrived on a 350-seat private charter flight for tomorrow's game against Hawai'i at Aloha Stadium. Four air-conditioned buses, complete with television monitors and DVD players, awaited on the tarmac. For yesterday's practice at Aloha Stadium, a fifth bus was added — for the Crimson Tide's trainers and managers. The Tide also hired 12 private guards, wearing bright crimson Tide caps,for 'round-the-clock security for four days. The costs are pocket change for a school that spends $36 million annually on sports, including $18 million on the football team. In comparison, UH's entire athletic budget was $18.1 million for the last fiscal year. There is no room in UH's $4 million football budget to rent buses, a reason why the Warriors do not practice at Aloha Stadium, a 12-mile drive from the Manoa campus. The Tide will have had three practices there before tomorrow's kickoff. But money does not always buy happiness, and these are indeed tough times for the 4-8 Tide. Alabama needs a victory to avert its second-worst football season in 109 years of competition. Last week, the Tide suffered a 28-23 loss to arch-rival Auburn. "It's been a tough season for us," quarterback Brodie Croyle said. "We expected to come in here and have a lot better year. At the same time, we understand we're still in the learning stages right now." Croyle said the players are adjusting to Mike Shula, the Tide's third head coach in 11 months. Dennis Franchione resigned to accept the head coaching job at Texas A&M and his successor, Mike Price, was fired in May because of problems relating to off-field activities. "I loved Coach Price, and I have stood by him to this day," Croyle said. But he also has become supportive of Shula, adding, "We have the right guy. We're going to win some games. We have a lot of talent. We have to put it all together." Price had implemented an expanded passing attack during spring practice. Shula, a former Tide quarterback, installed his offense during training camp. "It's a fun offense," Croyle said, although noting it is not being run at full efficiency. Shula said all of the schemes are in place, but "I think the main thing is guys getting experience with it. None of them (has) the experience through playing time like you would want." But Shula said he has watched his players make relative improvements through the season. "They've been through a lot, especially the older guys, even before the season started," Shula said. "We feel we've got some togetherness. Unfortunately, our record isn't better than it is. But I think there are a lot of positive things we can pick out of this season. That's why we're focusing on ending on a positive note against a good football team." • Health report: UH defensive tackle Abu Ma'afala told a school spokeswoman his strained right shoulder is better and that he will be available to play tomorrow. In accordance with a team policy, UH players are not allowed to speak directly to reporters in the two days leading to a game. Wednesday, Ma'afala said he suffered the injury against Army when "I was trying to make a tackle and I fell on the ground and a dude fell on me." Last year against Alabama, Ma'afala, aligned as a receiver, dropped a wide-open pass. "I try to block it out of my mind, but people keep bringing it up. I have to redeem myself on the defensive side of the ball." • Low Tide: An Alabama spokesman said Tide fans have purchased about 3,200 tickets through the school for tomorrow's game, about 5,000 fewer than for last year's meeting at Aloha Stadium. He did not know how many tickets were purchased through UH's ticket office. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] D33R fRAN...
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[RollTideFan] HEY DAD!
13yo: "There's a sponge or something in the toilet!" Me: "What?!..." step..step...step.. 10yo: "It looks like a white mouse?!" err Me: " It's a tampon" Them: "What's that?" Me: "Go ask your mother" kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Texath hatred aside today..
HOOK 'EM HORNS!! kurt I hate fRAN and so should ewe! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Farewell King Jackie...
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[RollTideFan] HTML DAMNIT!!
(Sorry about that! ) My fsking e-mail program is borked! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] LSU's Fisher pulls out of Mississippi State coaching search
http://www.montereyherald.com/mld/montereyherald/sports/7364495.htm Posted on Thu, Nov. 27, 2003 LSU's Fisher pulls out of Mississippi State coaching search RALPH D. RUSSO Associated Press STARKVILLE, Miss. - LSU offensive coordinator Jimbo Fisher withdrew from consideration for the head coaching position at Mississippi State on Thursday. The Bulldogs are looking to replace Jackie Sherrill, who announced in October he will retire after this season. Mississippi State (2-9, 1-6 Southeastern Conference) played rival Mississippi Thursday night, wrapping up a third straight losing season. Fisher released a statement through the LSU athletic department saying he canceled an interview with Mississippi State athletic director Larry Templeton that was scheduled for Saturday. Third-ranked LSU plays Arkansas in Baton Rouge on Friday. Fisher appeared to be the leading candidate for the job, drawing the most speculation in recent weeks. "It's obviously very flattering to have your name mentioned for a head coaching position in the Southeastern Conference," Fisher said. "On the other hand, I'm very happy here at LSU and as a result I have decided to pull my name from consideration for the head coaching position at Mississippi State." Fisher's withdrawal could open the door for Green Bay Packers assistant coach Sylvester Croom. A Memphis television station, citing unidentified sources, reported Wednesday night that Croom would be hired by Mississippi State. Croom released a statement through the Packers after Thursday's game in Detroit. "It is inappropriate for me to comment about that at this time," he said. Templeton denied the report about Croom before Thursday night's game. He said he has not offered the job to Croom nor would he confirm that Croom has been interviewed. "I've interviewed a lot of people. We're not going to discuss individuals," Templeton said. The 59-year-old Croom was an All-American center for Bear Bryant at Alabama in the early 1970s. He was an assistant for the Crimson Tide from 1977-86 and nearly landed the Alabama job when it came open last May after Mike Price was abruptly dismissed. The Crimson Tide were criticized by some, including The Rev. Jesse Jackson, for picking Mike Shula, who is white, over Croom, who is black and has more experience. The SEC is the only BCS conference to have never had a black head coach. Heading into the game against Ole Miss, Mississippi State was 8-26 over the past three seasons with just three SEC wins. The Bulldogs are also awaiting the results of an NCAA investigation into possible rules violations by the football program. __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Happy Turkey Day
Rick McMahan wrote: Now I'm all set to sit down and watch the Egg bowl...starts at 6:30 on ESPN. Maybe King Jackie can go out a winner. I really hope so. IAWTP!! CLANG CLANG!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] BUR...
Fruckin ERP!! ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] Whither Mike Price?
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[RollTideFan] Whiter Mike Price?
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[RollTideFan] Happy Thanksgiving my Aura Tee Eff plas!
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[RollTideFan] Deer Barners..
It's time to face reality. http://www.rolltidefan.net/Attachments/aurbin.jpg ROLL TIDE!! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
[RollTideFan] For the wimmins on the list
After football season dies down... If y'all need sumpin to do. Looks like they might need help. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=594&e=3&u=/nm/20031126/hl_nm/health_orgasm_dc kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] Dumb and Dumber -- War Eagle style
Rick McMahan wrote: Did y'all read this yet? http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=wojciechowski_gene&id=1671870 IYAM LOVING THIS!! HAHAHAHAHAHA!! ROLL TIDE! kurt __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List "Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup!" To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
