Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
What You Said, Dude! Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Sorry guys, but if I were President, I'd pull my troops out of the country. Then, I'd NUKE their camel-fornicating asses back to the Stone Age! And for giggles, I'd nuke Iran and Syria. Two less boils on the butt of the world to deal with! It is totally incredulous that so much is being made from this! If this weren't an election year, you'd never hear or see any of this crap! Was it wrong? Yes. Was it stupid to take pictures? Yes. Lack of discipline? Yes. However, these people are under tremendous pressure there, and who knows what happens when you're pushed to the brink. And, instead of pointing fingers, let the blame fall on the officers and work it's way down. Sorry for preaching, but this wimpy, apologetic, America is wrong crowd really PISS me OFF! Hey, if we're so bad, go run to the People's Paradise, also known as Cuber! TimUA87, ex-Army Medical Corps, Air Assault, and registered Republican! Hooah! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
And for giggles, I'd nuke Iran and Syria. Two less boils on the butt of the world to deal with! Just add Saudi Arabia to that list Tim, and I'll vote for you in NovemberJamie __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
You ain't holding yore mouth right. :) Slef E. - Original Message - From: Joe Goodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 6:17 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. It won't work Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong. Ronald Reagan - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:12 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the badguys. Take me seriously for a moment, please. DO NOT CLICK ON THE LINK BELOW if the sight of a man being decapitated might disturb you. I'm giving you fair warning, this is probably the most gruesome thing I have ever seen. http://tinyurl.com/38ymb SERIOUSLY, JT - Original Message - From: Tim Boozer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:25 PM Subject: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the bad guys. NOTE: An al-Qaida affiliated group IN BAGHDAG carried this out in the name of religion while chanting God is great. These people are barbarians and if a leader of this so called religion does not emerge NOW to lead these pathetic sheeple to peace, then Islam will indeed become the true enemy. Right now only the radicals of Islam are the enemy, but there does not appear to be a non-radical arm of Islam that actually has a voice! Do me a favor and don't respond to me with anything remotely comparing this to the abuse of prisoners. Abuse of prisoners is wrong, but as a friend of mine said, from the pictures I've seen, my initiation into my college fraternity was worse. Again, the prisoner abuse is wrong and inexcusable, but keep it in perspective. This man was beheaded while people chanted God is great. Barbarians! -- -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=514e=11u=/ap/20040511/ap_o n_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded or http://snipurl.com/6b7e -- -- Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq 6 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. The video bore the title Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American. It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi - an associated of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) - was shown in the video, or was claiming responsibility for ordering the execution. Al-Zarqawi also is said to have ties to terrorist groups ranging from Ansar al Islam in Iraq to Egyptian Islamic Jihad. He's believed to be behind many attacks in Iraq, including numerous high-profile operations. The video pictures of the execution showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit - similar to a prisoner's uniform - who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. civilian whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday. My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Suzanne, the man said on the video. I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia. There was no way to be certain the tape was authentic. After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting Allahu Akbar! - God is great. They then held the head out before the camera. Berg's family said Tuesday they knew their son had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing. When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried. I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public, Michael Berg said. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family, said White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush (news - web sites) in Arkansas. It shows the true nature of the enemies of freedom. They have no regard
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
Yeah.what he said. Joe Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong. Ronald Reagan - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Sorry guys, but if I were President, I'd pull my troops out of the country. Then, I'd NUKE their camel-fornicating asses back to the Stone Age! And for giggles, I'd nuke Iran and Syria. Two less boils on the butt of the world to deal with! It is totally incredulous that so much is being made from this! If this weren't an election year, you'd never hear or see any of this crap! Was it wrong? Yes. Was it stupid to take pictures? Yes. Lack of discipline? Yes. However, these people are under tremendous pressure there, and who knows what happens when you're pushed to the brink. And, instead of pointing fingers, let the blame fall on the officers and work it's way down. Sorry for preaching, but this wimpy, apologetic, America is wrong crowd really PISS me OFF! Hey, if we're so bad, go run to the People's Paradise, also known as Cuber! TimUA87, ex-Army Medical Corps, Air Assault, and registered Republican! Hooah! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
LOL And what Slef said too.. Joe Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong. Ronald Reagan - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 7:10 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. What You Said, Dude! Slef E. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:27 AM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Sorry guys, but if I were President, I'd pull my troops out of the country. Then, I'd NUKE their camel-fornicating asses back to the Stone Age! And for giggles, I'd nuke Iran and Syria. Two less boils on the butt of the world to deal with! It is totally incredulous that so much is being made from this! If this weren't an election year, you'd never hear or see any of this crap! Was it wrong? Yes. Was it stupid to take pictures? Yes. Lack of discipline? Yes. However, these people are under tremendous pressure there, and who knows what happens when you're pushed to the brink. And, instead of pointing fingers, let the blame fall on the officers and work it's way down. Sorry for preaching, but this wimpy, apologetic, America is wrong crowd really PISS me OFF! Hey, if we're so bad, go run to the People's Paradise, also known as Cuber! TimUA87, ex-Army Medical Corps, Air Assault, and registered Republican! Hooah! __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
Take.No.Prisoners. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:55 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Pointing at their genitals is not the only thing I would be doing if I were one of the servicemen! Cutting them off and stuffing them in their mouths would be more the ticket!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Boozer Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:26 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the badguys. NOTE: An al-Qaida affiliated group IN BAGHDAG carried this out in the name of religion while chanting God is great. These people are barbarians and if a leader of this so called religion does not emerge NOW to lead these pathetic sheeple to peace, then Islam will indeed become the true enemy. Right now only the radicals of Islam are the enemy, but there does not appear to be a non-radical arm of Islam that actually has a voice! Do me a favor and don't respond to me with anything remotely comparing this to the abuse of prisoners. Abuse of prisoners is wrong, but as a friend of mine said, from the pictures I've seen, my initiation into my college fraternity was worse. Again, the prisoner abuse is wrong and inexcusable, but keep it in perspective. This man was beheaded while people chanted God is great. Barbarians! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=514e=11u=/ap/20040511/ap_o n_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded or http://snipurl.com/6b7e Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq 6 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. The video bore the title Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American. It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi - an associated of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) - was shown in the video, or was claiming responsibility for ordering the execution. Al-Zarqawi also is said to have ties to terrorist groups ranging from Ansar al Islam in Iraq to Egyptian Islamic Jihad. He's believed to be behind many attacks in Iraq, including numerous high-profile operations. The video pictures of the execution showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit - similar to a prisoner's uniform - who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. civilian whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday. My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Suzanne, the man said on the video. I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia. There was no way to be certain the tape was authentic. After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting Allahu Akbar! - God is great. They then held the head out before the camera. Berg's family said Tuesday they knew their son had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing. When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried. I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public, Michael Berg said. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family, said White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush (news - web sites) in Arkansas. It shows the true nature of the enemies of freedom. They have no regard for the lives of innocent men, women and children. We will pursue those who are responsible and bring them to justice. Because Berg was a U.S. citizen, the FBI (news - web sites) has jurisdiction to investigate the case as a criminal matter. A senior law enforcement official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FBI would probably get involved so long as adequate security is provided by the military for investigators to do their work. On the Web site, one of the executioners read a statement: For the mothers and wives of American soldiers, we tell you that we offered the U.S. administration to exchange this hostage with some of the detainees in Abu Ghraib and they refused. So we tell you that the dignity of the Muslim men and women in Abu Ghraib and others
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
WORD! Today we did what we had to do. They counted on America to be passive. They counted wrong. Ronald Reagan - Original Message - From: Jeff Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Take.No.Prisoners. Slef E. - Original Message - From: Devan Orange [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:55 PM Subject: RE: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Pointing at their genitals is not the only thing I would be doing if I were one of the servicemen! Cutting them off and stuffing them in their mouths would be more the ticket!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Boozer Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:26 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the badguys. NOTE: An al-Qaida affiliated group IN BAGHDAG carried this out in the name of religion while chanting God is great. These people are barbarians and if a leader of this so called religion does not emerge NOW to lead these pathetic sheeple to peace, then Islam will indeed become the true enemy. Right now only the radicals of Islam are the enemy, but there does not appear to be a non-radical arm of Islam that actually has a voice! Do me a favor and don't respond to me with anything remotely comparing this to the abuse of prisoners. Abuse of prisoners is wrong, but as a friend of mine said, from the pictures I've seen, my initiation into my college fraternity was worse. Again, the prisoner abuse is wrong and inexcusable, but keep it in perspective. This man was beheaded while people chanted God is great. Barbarians! -- -- http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=514e=11u=/ap/20040511/ap_o n_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded or http://snipurl.com/6b7e -- -- Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq 6 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. The video bore the title Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American. It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi - an associated of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) - was shown in the video, or was claiming responsibility for ordering the execution. Al-Zarqawi also is said to have ties to terrorist groups ranging from Ansar al Islam in Iraq to Egyptian Islamic Jihad. He's believed to be behind many attacks in Iraq, including numerous high-profile operations. The video pictures of the execution showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit - similar to a prisoner's uniform - who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. civilian whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday. My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Suzanne, the man said on the video. I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia. There was no way to be certain the tape was authentic. After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting Allahu Akbar! - God is great. They then held the head out before the camera. Berg's family said Tuesday they knew their son had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing. When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried. I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public, Michael Berg said. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family, said White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush (news - web sites) in Arkansas. It shows the true nature of the enemies of freedom. They have no regard for the lives of innocent men, women and children. We will pursue those who are responsible and bring them to justice. Because Berg was a U.S. citizen, the FBI (news - web sites) has jurisdiction to investigate the case as a criminal matter. A senior law enforcement official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FBI
Re: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
the people that did it, and the ones protecting them, better be pretty damn scared right now. In my book, they just warranted a manhunt equal to that which brought Saddam's sorry self to justice. Some tactical nukes is what we needJamie __ RollTideFan - The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Welcome to RollTideFan! Wear a cup! To join or leave the list or to make changes to your subscription visit http://listinfo.rolltidefan.net
RE: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys.
I don't condone either of the acts (by the Americans nor the Iraqis), but I do fear that as more and more information is made public about the alleged prisoner abuse, the regimes in Iraq will also find ways to display their disgust with the situation. I fear the US is not prepared to deal with people who do all this in the name of (their) God. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Devan Orange Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 2:56 PM To: 'RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List' Subject:RE: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are thebadguys. Pointing at their genitals is not the only thing I would be doing if I were one of the servicemen! Cutting them off and stuffing them in their mouths would be more the ticket!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tim Boozer Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 1:26 PM To: RollTideFan-The University of Alabama Athletics Discussion List Subject: [RollTideFan] NON - To the pacificists who think WE are the badguys. NOTE: An al-Qaida affiliated group IN BAGHDAG carried this out in the name of religion while chanting God is great. These people are barbarians and if a leader of this so called religion does not emerge NOW to lead these pathetic sheeple to peace, then Islam will indeed become the true enemy. Right now only the radicals of Islam are the enemy, but there does not appear to be a non-radical arm of Islam that actually has a voice! Do me a favor and don't respond to me with anything remotely comparing this to the abuse of prisoners. Abuse of prisoners is wrong, but as a friend of mine said, from the pictures I've seen, my initiation into my college fraternity was worse. Again, the prisoner abuse is wrong and inexcusable, but keep it in perspective. This man was beheaded while people chanted God is great. Barbarians! http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=514e=11u=/ap/20040511/ap_o n_re_mi_ea/egypt_iraq_american_beheaded or http://snipurl.com/6b7e Video Shows Beheading of American in Iraq 6 minutes ago Add Top Stories - AP to My Yahoo! By NIKO PRICE, Associated Press Writer CAIRO, Egypt - A video posted Tuesday on an Islamic militant Web site showed the beheading of an American civilian in Iraq (news - web sites), and said the execution was carried out by an al-Qaida affiliated group to avenge the abuse of Iraqi prisoners by American soldiers. The video bore the title Abu Musab al-Zarqawi shown slaughtering an American. It was unclear whether al-Zarqawi - an associated of Osama bin Laden (news - web sites) - was shown in the video, or was claiming responsibility for ordering the execution. Al-Zarqawi also is said to have ties to terrorist groups ranging from Ansar al Islam in Iraq to Egyptian Islamic Jihad. He's believed to be behind many attacks in Iraq, including numerous high-profile operations. The video pictures of the execution showed five men wearing headscarves and black ski masks, standing over a bound man in an orange jumpsuit - similar to a prisoner's uniform - who identified himself as Nick Berg, a U.S. civilian whose body was found on a highway overpass in Baghdad on Saturday. My name is Nick Berg, my father's name is Michael, my mother's name is Suzanne, the man said on the video. I have a brother and sister, David and Sarah. I live in ... Philadelphia. There was no way to be certain the tape was authentic. After reading a statement, the men were seen pulling the man to his side and putting a large knife to his neck. A scream sounded as the men cut his head off, shouting Allahu Akbar! - God is great. They then held the head out before the camera. Berg's family said Tuesday they knew their son had been decapitated, but didn't know the details of the killing. When told of the video by an Associated Press reporter, Berg's father, Michael, and his two siblings hugged and cried. I knew he was decapitated before. That manner is preferable to a long and torturous death. But I didn't want it to become public, Michael Berg said. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family, said White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan, traveling with President Bush (news - web sites) in Arkansas. It shows the true nature of the enemies of freedom. They have no regard for the lives of innocent men, women and children. We will pursue those who are responsible and bring them to justice. Because Berg was a U.S. citizen, the FBI (news - web sites) has jurisdiction to investigate the case as a criminal matter. A senior law enforcement official in Washington, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the FBI would probably get involved so long as adequate security is provided by the military for investigators to do
