[rtl] DrDobbs
There is a article in the DrDobb's of march 2000 #310 about RT-Linux not very in depth but maybe still interesting. And nice to see a "windows" magazine to talk about something else. Of course they have to mention NT doing Real time in the same way. And in such a way that is looks like linux copied it from NT , which should be imposible when Victor got a patent on the idea :-) Or did he developed it for NT ? :-) - Erwin -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/
Re: [rtl] Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2000 20:32:35 +0800
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 06:30:31AM -0800, Phil Wilshire wrote: dyd Good idea. This should be in the form of a HTML page perhaps.. Get started and realtimelinux.org will host it for you. If you maintain any upgrades from the group then we'll post your latest copy as and when.. Just make a stab at it and others will follow. I agree. If there were a well-written/well-maintained document about this, I would add my list of ok/not-ok kernel functions. dave... -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/
Re: [rtl] DrDobbs
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 11:43:35PM +0100, Tomasz Motylewski wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Erwin Rol wrote: And nice to see a "windows" magazine to talk about something else. Of course they have to mention NT doing Real time in the same way. Did they recompile the NT kernel using soft-cli ? ;-) NT uses a hardware abstraction layer that replaces cli() (or the NT equivalent) with a virtual function call all the time, similar to RTAI. A HAL would be a nice way for Linux to make binary-only drivers work with RTLinux (and SMP, and various other patches that change inline functions and structure layout) -- that is, force binary-only drivers to use a HAL, but allow source drivers to use inline speedups. dave... -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/
Re: [rtl] DrDobbs
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 11:43:35PM +0100, Tomasz Motylewski wrote: On Sat, 18 Mar 2000, Erwin Rol wrote: And nice to see a "windows" magazine to talk about something else. Of course they have to mention NT doing Real time in the same way. Did they recompile the NT kernel using soft-cli ? ;-) After we first published, just before the 1 year provisional expired, we saw advertisements for this method in NT and decided to srape up the money for a full patent. The method apparently does not work as well in NT for several reasons: the base os is less reliable, there are many binary only drivers, and there is code that uses assembler clis/stis. The RTOS is also annoying. But Venturecom is a serious company. With good people. Discounting Microsoft is not smart. -- Tomek -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/ -- - Victor Yodaiken FSMLabs: www.fsmlabs.com www.rtlinux.com FSMLabs is a servicemark and a service of VJY Associates L.L.C, New Mexico. -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/
Re: [rtl] DrDobbs
On Sat, Mar 18, 2000 at 04:31:27PM -0800, David Schleef wrote: A HAL would be a nice way for Linux to make binary-only drivers work with RTLinux (and SMP, and various other patches that change inline functions and structure layout) -- that is, force binary-only drivers to use a HAL, but allow source drivers to use inline speedups. Hate to be pedantic, but Linux has, and always had a "HAL" otherwise Linux would not have been suitable for RTLinux. I think that the precise way to say what I think you are saying is: that binary only drivers should use dynamic linking and source drivers could use inline. And it's a fine idea. That's why V3 RTLinux adds the rtlinux elf sections to Linux. -- - Victor Yodaiken FSMLabs: www.fsmlabs.com www.rtlinux.com FSMLabs is a servicemark and a service of VJY Associates L.L.C, New Mexico. -- [rtl] --- To unsubscribe: echo "unsubscribe rtl" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR echo "unsubscribe rtl Your_email" | mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- For more information on Real-Time Linux see: http://www.rtlinux.org/rtlinux/
