Re: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + RTlinux

[Heinz Häberle]

well never say never...
but definitely 8 bit is better suited for smaller OSes then Linux is.

you could probably mount 4 of them together. This would get you 32 Bit. And
since Linux is supporting SMP...

BTW, I'm just kidding

Heinz


- Original Message -
From: "Karthik Bala Guru" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 10:02 AM
Subject: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + RTlinux


> Hi,
> i know to work with ATMEL 8-bit 8051 microcontroller
> and have done FLASH,EEPROM,LCD  and many other
> tiny interfaces with it.
> I have knowledge in RTlinux and linux.
> How could i get into the nice linux world along
> with microcontroller concepts ???
>
> Does RTLinux have links with microcontrollers or
> should i opt for other flavours ?? IF so, what
> could be the best linux flavour ??
>
> Suggestions plz
> karthik bala guru
>
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[Rtl]Call for papers FOSDEM 2003

[Der Herr Hofrat]

The 2003 edition of FOSDEM (Free and Open Source Developers' European Meeting)
will take place in Brussels, Belgium on 8 and 9 February 2003. Embedded
and realtime systems are among the fastest growing fields of R&D where Free
Software solutions become important. Operating System development has
always been a very important topic in Free Software. As embedded and
realtime systems typically have special OS requirements, we organise this
Free Embedded and OS development track at the FOSDEM.

This track at FOSDEM provides a remarkable opportunity to present the 
ongoing work in these areas, and we invite developers to present their current 
projects. Technical topics of the conference include but are not limited to :

- Free Software OS Development : kernel architecture and implementation
  - Linux (GPL)
  - *BSD (modified BSD = Free SW)
  - the Hurd (GPL)
  - L4 (GPL)
  - ...

- Free Embedded Development : tool chains and project cases
  - emdebian (GPL)
  - embedded projects based on free software
  - ...

- Free Software Real-time extentions to Linux
  - RTAI (GPL/LGPL)
  - Adeos (GPL)
  - ...

- Free Software real-time OS's
  - eCos (ECOS 2.0 license = modified GPL = Free SW)
  - RTEMS (GPL)
  - ...

- Free Software JVM's
  - Wonka (modified BSD = Free SW license)
  - Kaffee (GPL)
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- Free hardware designs.
  - LEON Sparc (Free HW license)
  - "OpenCores.org" projects (Free HW licenses)

- Portable (system) programming
  - generic issues in portable programming (endianess, wordsize, ...)
  - system level issues (non-coherent I/O, Out Of Order Execution,...)
  - ...

- Free Software GUI's for embedded systems
  - Qt (dual license)
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Authors are required to submit their abstracts online to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
before 16/12/2002. Notification of receipt will be sent within 48 hours.
Authors wishing to submit a paper (between 6 and 12 A4 pages), can do so in PS
or PDF format. 


The Program Committee will evaluate the abstracts and consists of:

- Peter De Schrijver, CTO Mind, Linux/eCos developer 
- Herman Bruyninckx, Professor at K.U.Leuven, robotics development
- Michael Vogt, Debian project, Debian developer
- Gary Thomas, eCosCentric, eCos/Linux developer
- Neil H. Walfield, GNU project, Hurd Developer

Peter Vandenabeele, acts as organiser for this track and non-voting 
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Re: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + RTlinux

[Robert Schwebel]

On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Bernhard Kuhn wrote:
> If you want to stick to 8 Bit Controller: forget about Linux!

Hmm, 8 bit controllers work quite fine for realtime applications with
Linux.  Just connect your favourite PIC, AVR or whatever to some generic
io ports of your embedded Linux machine, install a standard non-realtime
kernel, write your realtime program in assembler and you have
jitter-less hard realtime behavour :-) 

Robert 
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Re: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + RTlinux

[Parag Naik]

Try uCos or eCOS .. more suitable for 8 bit 
micro-controlers
 
Parag

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Karthik Bala Guru 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, October 20, 2002 1:32 
  PM
  Subject: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + 
  RTlinux
  Hi,i know to work with ATMEL 8-bit 8051 
  microcontrollerand have done FLASH,EEPROM,LCD  and many othertiny 
  interfaces with it.I have knowledge in RTlinux and linux.How could i 
  get into the nice linux world alongwith microcontroller concepts 
  ???Does RTLinux have links with microcontrollers orshould i opt 
  for other flavours ?? IF so, what could be the best linux flavour 
  ??Suggestions plzkarthik bala 
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Re: [Rtl]ATMEL 8051 8-bit + RTlinux

[Bernhard Kuhn]

Robert Schwebel schrieb:
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2002 at 02:53:07PM +0200, Bernhard Kuhn wrote:
> > If you want to stick to 8 Bit Controller: forget about Linux!
> 
> Hmm, 8 bit controllers work quite fine for realtime applications with
> Linux.  Just connect your favourite PIC, AVR or whatever to some generic
> io ports of your embedded Linux machine, install a standard non-realtime
> kernel, write your realtime program in assembler and you have
> jitter-less hard realtime behavour :-)

I am not sure if this is what the original poster was thinking of.
And even then: from experience, the process of getting a fully
functional
toolchain for 8 bit controllers working on a linux host can be quite a
pain in the *** :-)

Bernhard

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