Re: Conflicting racc

2023-12-21 Thread Vít Ondruch


Dne 21. 12. 23 v 1:23 Mamoru TASAKA napsal(a):

Mamoru TASAKA wrote on 2023/12/21 9:04:

Vít Ondruch wrote on 2023/12/21 0:45:

I have just hit this issue:

~~~

Error: Transaction test error:
   file /usr/lib64/gems/ruby/racc-1.7.3/racc/cparse.so from install 
of ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 
conflicts with file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64
   file /usr/share/gems/specifications/racc-1.7.3.gemspec from 
install of 
ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 
conflicts with file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64


~~~


The problem here is that racc is now bundled gem, where previously 
it was default gem, therefore there is now this conflict. How are we 
going to solve this? There are several options:


1) Make rubygem-racc subpackage of Ruby. We used to do this [1], but 
with default gem, the situation was different.


2) Install default gems / our system gems into dedicated directory, 
where they won't conflict. I was already proposing it elsewhere to 
explore the `gem install --vendor` or I have proposed upstream to 
have dedicated directories for default / bundled gems. Is it the 
right time to do this?


3) Drop the independent rubygem-racc

Actually I am not sure how sever this situation is, because I have 
explicitly installed rubygem-racc prior the ruby-default-gems get 
chance to be installed. So maybe we still have some time to thing 
about it.


Thoughts?


Vít


[1] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ruby/c/baf046a6a4d17fa309c9d20fa3db949f6c24aacf





Because new version of racc (independent) gem may be released during 
ruby 3.3 stage
(actually racc version 1.7.0 was released 2023/Jun) and when that 
happens,
racc bundled in ruby 3.3 won't be updated, to make it possible to 
update rubygem-racc

version, I don't think 3) is what we want (at least I don't want 3)) .

I think 1) is the "simplest" way in that this is the least likely way 
where some

misbehavior can happen.

2) can be the option, but I think we can defer to this for ruby 3.4.

Or...
4) Make ruby-default-gems have "Obsoletes: rubygem-racc < 1.7.4" ?



Thank you for pointing out this scenario. I think I had it somewhere 
back in my mind, but it have not bubbled up on the surface writing this 
email.




So this way, unless I am wrong:

* when rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40 is firstly installed, 
rubygem-default-gems

   should Obsolete this independent rubygem-racc because of this.
* when independent rubygem-racc version is updated, this Obsoletes no 
longer in effect,
   but as version differs between independent rubygem-racc and 
bundled one,

   so there should be no file conflict, perhaps?
* Then when racc version in ruby-default-gems is updated, we can 
again have

   "Obsoletes: rubygem-racc < 1.7.5" in ruby-default-gems.

  At least, for current situation, 4) (i.e. use Obsoletes instead of 
dropping)

  should work.

Anyway, thank you for pointing this out.



After second thought, maybe some bugfix backport can happen even in 
rubygem-racc 1.7.3 era,

so after all, I think 1) is the best for now.



While I am not worried that much about bugfixes, going with 1) allows to 
shrink the installation footprint, because rubygem-racc can be installed 
only when really needed 2) we have experience with this approach.


I'll go with this.

Thx for feedback!


Vít




Regards,
Mamoru

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Re: Conflicting racc

2023-12-20 Thread Mamoru TASAKA

Mamoru TASAKA wrote on 2023/12/21 9:04:

Vít Ondruch wrote on 2023/12/21 0:45:

I have just hit this issue:

~~~

Error: Transaction test error:
   file /usr/lib64/gems/ruby/racc-1.7.3/racc/cparse.so from install of 
ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 conflicts with 
file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64
   file /usr/share/gems/specifications/racc-1.7.3.gemspec from install of 
ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 conflicts with 
file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64

~~~


The problem here is that racc is now bundled gem, where previously it was 
default gem, therefore there is now this conflict. How are we going to solve 
this? There are several options:

1) Make rubygem-racc subpackage of Ruby. We used to do this [1], but with 
default gem, the situation was different.

2) Install default gems / our system gems into dedicated directory, where they 
won't conflict. I was already proposing it elsewhere to explore the `gem 
install --vendor` or I have proposed upstream to have dedicated directories for 
default / bundled gems. Is it the right time to do this?

3) Drop the independent rubygem-racc

Actually I am not sure how sever this situation is, because I have explicitly 
installed rubygem-racc prior the ruby-default-gems get chance to be installed. 
So maybe we still have some time to thing about it.

Thoughts?


Vít


[1] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ruby/c/baf046a6a4d17fa309c9d20fa3db949f6c24aacf




Because new version of racc (independent) gem may be released during ruby 3.3 
stage
(actually racc version 1.7.0 was released 2023/Jun) and when that happens,
racc bundled in ruby 3.3 won't be updated, to make it possible to update 
rubygem-racc
version, I don't think 3) is what we want (at least I don't want 3)) .

I think 1) is the "simplest" way in that this is the least likely way where some
misbehavior can happen.

2) can be the option, but I think we can defer to this for ruby 3.4.

Or...
4) Make ruby-default-gems have "Obsoletes: rubygem-racc < 1.7.4" ?
So this way, unless I am wrong:

* when rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40 is firstly installed, rubygem-default-gems
   should Obsolete this independent rubygem-racc because of this.
* when independent rubygem-racc version is updated, this Obsoletes no longer in 
effect,
   but as version differs between independent rubygem-racc and bundled one,
   so there should be no file conflict, perhaps?
* Then when racc version in ruby-default-gems is updated, we can again have
   "Obsoletes: rubygem-racc < 1.7.5" in ruby-default-gems.

  At least, for current situation, 4) (i.e. use Obsoletes instead of dropping)
  should work.

Anyway, thank you for pointing this out.



After second thought, maybe some bugfix backport can happen even in 
rubygem-racc 1.7.3 era,
so after all, I think 1) is the best for now.

Regards,
Mamoru

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Re: Conflicting racc

2023-12-20 Thread Mamoru TASAKA

Vít Ondruch wrote on 2023/12/21 0:45:

I have just hit this issue:

~~~

Error: Transaction test error:
   file /usr/lib64/gems/ruby/racc-1.7.3/racc/cparse.so from install of 
ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 conflicts with 
file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64
   file /usr/share/gems/specifications/racc-1.7.3.gemspec from install of 
ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 conflicts with 
file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64

~~~


The problem here is that racc is now bundled gem, where previously it was 
default gem, therefore there is now this conflict. How are we going to solve 
this? There are several options:

1) Make rubygem-racc subpackage of Ruby. We used to do this [1], but with 
default gem, the situation was different.

2) Install default gems / our system gems into dedicated directory, where they 
won't conflict. I was already proposing it elsewhere to explore the `gem 
install --vendor` or I have proposed upstream to have dedicated directories for 
default / bundled gems. Is it the right time to do this?

3) Drop the independent rubygem-racc

Actually I am not sure how sever this situation is, because I have explicitly 
installed rubygem-racc prior the ruby-default-gems get chance to be installed. 
So maybe we still have some time to thing about it.

Thoughts?


Vít


[1] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ruby/c/baf046a6a4d17fa309c9d20fa3db949f6c24aacf




Because new version of racc (independent) gem may be released during ruby 3.3 
stage
(actually racc version 1.7.0 was released 2023/Jun) and when that happens,
racc bundled in ruby 3.3 won't be updated, to make it possible to update 
rubygem-racc
version, I don't think 3) is what we want (at least I don't want 3)) .

I think 1) is the "simplest" way in that this is the least likely way where some
misbehavior can happen.

2) can be the option, but I think we can defer to this for ruby 3.4.

Or...
4) Make ruby-default-gems have "Obsoletes: rubygem-racc < 1.7.4" ?
So this way, unless I am wrong:

* when rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40 is firstly installed, rubygem-default-gems
  should Obsolete this independent rubygem-racc because of this.
* when independent rubygem-racc version is updated, this Obsoletes no longer in 
effect,
  but as version differs between independent rubygem-racc and bundled one,
  so there should be no file conflict, perhaps?
* Then when racc version in ruby-default-gems is updated, we can again have
  "Obsoletes: rubygem-racc < 1.7.5" in ruby-default-gems.

 At least, for current situation, 4) (i.e. use Obsoletes instead of dropping)
 should work.

Anyway, thank you for pointing this out.

Regards,
Mamoru
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Conflicting racc

2023-12-20 Thread Vít Ondruch

I have just hit this issue:

~~~

Error: Transaction test error:
  file /usr/lib64/gems/ruby/racc-1.7.3/racc/cparse.so from install of 
ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 conflicts 
with file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64
  file /usr/share/gems/specifications/racc-1.7.3.gemspec from install 
of ruby-bundled-gems-3.3.0~20231219git8e6f63df47-184.fc40.x86_64 
conflicts with file from package rubygem-racc-1.7.3-200.fc40.x86_64


~~~


The problem here is that racc is now bundled gem, where previously it 
was default gem, therefore there is now this conflict. How are we going 
to solve this? There are several options:


1) Make rubygem-racc subpackage of Ruby. We used to do this [1], but 
with default gem, the situation was different.


2) Install default gems / our system gems into dedicated directory, 
where they won't conflict. I was already proposing it elsewhere to 
explore the `gem install --vendor` or I have proposed upstream to have 
dedicated directories for default / bundled gems. Is it the right time 
to do this?


3) Drop the independent rubygem-racc

Actually I am not sure how sever this situation is, because I have 
explicitly installed rubygem-racc prior the ruby-default-gems get chance 
to be installed. So maybe we still have some time to thing about it.


Thoughts?


Vít



[1] 
https://src.fedoraproject.org/rpms/ruby/c/baf046a6a4d17fa309c9d20fa3db949f6c24aacf




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