[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Agoofin
Every book is likely to contain some errors, most will have forums
where you can ask questions of the subject material as well.

Netbeans has everything I need. The side panes which show the project
structure and page elements which make not only navigating, but
understanding, the project easier. The code completion rocks and
really helps when editing html templates and css files as I try and do
as little html as possible.

On Jul 6, 8:16 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser  wrote:
> Bb Serviss wrote:
> > I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
> > book where I went through all the code examples.
>
> I haven't read that book, but based on all the technical errors in
> another one of Patrick's Rails books (Building Your Own RoR Web
> Applications), I'd tend to steer well clear of any of his Rails writing.
>
>
>
> > As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
> > editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.
>
> NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any advantage at
> all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do you mean
> by "the view NetBeans gives you"?
>
> Best,
> -- 
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> mar...@marnen.org
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Eddy Josafat
I agree with Peter. I've tried a lot of editors, and TextMate is
definitely my editor of choice.

It has a lot of bundles for almost any language or task you could
imagine, and it's easy to customize those bundles.

I've paid it with my own money, too. It's worth every cent of its
price.

On Jul 7, 11:55 am, Peter De Berdt  wrote:
> On 07 Jul 2010, at 11:30, Fernando Perez wrote:
>
> >> I won't pay for a text editor or an IDE.  There are so many good free
> >> tools that it seems silly.
>
> > I have never found anything that beats TextMate...
>
> Exactly.
>
> If TextMate is the tool that works for you (and you can try it out for  
> 30 days) and makes you more productive and more comfortable at your  
> job, not willing to spend $50 is just foolish to say the least. I  
> bought a license with my own money, not one that the company I work  
> for paid, simply because it's a very good tool and I didn't enjoy the  
> other ones I tried (and I tried a lot of them). If you're going to  
> develop Rails apps and get paid for it, not willing to spend $50 on a  
> productivity tool... what are you thinking?
>
> Best regards
>
> Peter De Berdt

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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Peter De Berdt


On 07 Jul 2010, at 13:10, Michael Pavling wrote:


If TextMate is the tool that works for you , not
willing to spend $50 is just foolish to say the least.


But if it isn't the tool that works for you, then it's foolish to pay
$50 for it.

Arguing over "which text editor is best" is like arguing over "who's
wife is most beautiful"... and disagreeing with someone else's opinion
is almost as rude ;-)


Agreed, I was more trying to point out that discarding a tool just  
because it costs money is not a right mindset (especially considering  
its price). I didn't say there weren't any other tools (free or not)  
available that might be someone else's cup of tea. A former collegue  
of mine swears by Eclipse, but hey, I don't understand his choice of  
women either :-D Joking aside, you should first look at the tool and  
how well it works for you and afterwards take money into consideration.



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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Michael Pavling
On 7 July 2010 11:55, Peter De Berdt  wrote:
> If TextMate is the tool that works for you , not
> willing to spend $50 is just foolish to say the least.

But if it isn't the tool that works for you, then it's foolish to pay
$50 for it.

Arguing over "which text editor is best" is like arguing over "who's
wife is most beautiful"... and disagreeing with someone else's opinion
is almost as rude ;-)

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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Peter De Berdt


On 07 Jul 2010, at 11:30, Fernando Perez wrote:


I won't pay for a text editor or an IDE.  There are so many good free
tools that it seems silly.


I have never found anything that beats TextMate...


Exactly.

If TextMate is the tool that works for you (and you can try it out for  
30 days) and makes you more productive and more comfortable at your  
job, not willing to spend $50 is just foolish to say the least. I  
bought a license with my own money, not one that the company I work  
for paid, simply because it's a very good tool and I didn't enjoy the  
other ones I tried (and I tried a lot of them). If you're going to  
develop Rails apps and get paid for it, not willing to spend $50 on a  
productivity tool... what are you thinking?



Best regards

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Fernando Perez

> I won't pay for a text editor or an IDE.  There are so many good free 
> tools that it seems silly.
> 
I have never found anything that beats TextMate...
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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-07 Thread Michael Pavling
On 7 July 2010 04:35, Marnen Laibow-Koser  wrote:
> Ginty wrote:
>> Visual debugging.
>
> Doesn't seem to work in NetBeans.

-1
Yes it does (in mine at least - Netbeans 6.8 on Ubuntu 9.04, 10.04 and
WindowsXP). IIRC You need to install the "fast debugger" and set a
couple of properties on the project, but then you have the ease of
breakpoints (including conditional breakpoints) and all the other
standard visual debugging tools (apart from an "immediates" window to
evaluate expressions on the fly, but you can fudge that in the main
code window...).

The only apparent absence is "break on exception", although the
Netbeans release notes say it's in there, I've never gotten it working
with Ruby.

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Zoltan Gero wrote:
> About RadRails:
> 
> Why should I spend my time with syntax controlling, checking, if I
> should spend my time with the customer? I think it is agile attitude,
> right? :)

Any good editor does syntax highlighting and project viewing.  You don't 
need an IDE to get those features.
> 

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread gezope
About RadRails:

Why should I spend my time with syntax controlling, checking, if I
should spend my time with the customer? I think it is agile attitude,
right? :)

I use RadRails as an Eclipse plugin (for free), and it helps a lot!
Mostly if you are not a real expert, many helpful features, text high-
lighting. Maybe basic stuff, but also terminal, project viewer
included, so I do not need to change the window 4 times if I change a
little chunk of code, or I do not miss to restart the server... Later
it will help me in refactoring, if I need, and many other little
stuff. It was a good choice I must say!

But: I also tried NetBeans, and its Rails plugin. The same, I think
that is also terrific! :)

Give them a try, these are free,
and never believe those, who wants to work too much! ;)
gezope

On júl. 6, 09:41, Angel Robert Marquez 
wrote:
> http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
>
> I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but, I'm not
> sure.
>
> Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath openid etc..
>
> I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and forget why I
> tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
>
> Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come true. Was
> able to deploy wp with it.
>
> Also
>
> Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
>
> I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
>
> Thoughts please.
>
> Thank you.

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Ginty wrote:
> Sorry but the advice to "don't use an IDE because Rails doesn't need
> one" is as dated as this book.

I try an IDE for Rails about once a year -- precisely so I don't get 
stuck on dated advice.  Inevitably, I go back to KomodoEdit.

I use NetBeans for JRuby/Monkeybars development.  I love it for that, 
but it is completely inappropriate for Rails work.

> 
> Today's IDEs give you significant advantages over a text editor, to
> name but a few:
> 
> Visual debugging.

Doesn't seem to work in NetBeans.

> No Rails configuration required, already understands the Rails
> structure for easy navigation.

That's one of the few things I miss about Aptana, but it's not a big 
enough advantage to put up with the rest.

> Integration with Rspec et al; run tests with a click, visual debug
> again, etc.

I run tests with *no* clicks (with autospec in the shell).  I don't need 
an IDE for that.

> Integration with Git; browse your changes, 1-click to diff, etc.

NetBeans' Git plugin is great (except for some annoying bugs), but 
except for the cute mouseover diffs, Komodo + GitX is at least as good a 
combination.

> 
> Netbeans is good I agree (plus has an awesome flawless Vim plugin),
> but I now use RubyMine which is better (although the Vim plugin
> blows), but it's not free though.

I won't pay for a text editor or an IDE.  There are so many good free 
tools that it seems silly.

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread gezope
I am currently reading this one:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails3/agile-web-development-with-rails-third-edition
it helped me to build a webshop from totally 0! :)

But as someone else also suggested, the 4th edition coming soon:
http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails
(they wrote in October, and they won't be late I think!)

and it is about Rails 3! :)

It also helps me to get involved into this agile method. Also their
other books are similar in this point, for example using Github is
only 150 pages or like that, and extremely useful, alos for a beginner
like me, absolutely understandable!

Best wishes, hope you also share your opininon /advice what to read!
thx,
gezope

On júl. 6, 09:41, Angel Robert Marquez 
wrote:
> http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
>
> I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but, I'm not
> sure.
>
> Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath openid etc..
>
> I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and forget why I
> tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
>
> Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come true. Was
> able to deploy wp with it.
>
> Also
>
> Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
>
> I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
>
> Thoughts please.
>
> Thank you.

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Ginty
I agree the file browser side pane is nice.

If you like Vim and just want a side pane then go for Netbeans with
the Vim plugin:
http://jvi.sourceforge.net/

It works 100% like regular Vim, quite amazing how good it is actually.

On Jul 6, 9:37 pm, Angel Robert Marquez 
wrote:
> I don't know man. I used to work with these two dev guys that would debate
> constantly over cygwin and eclipse. Personally at the time (bout a year ago)
> I used both for whatever worked best for my understanding at the time. I do
> find myself leaning towards the command line more these days. The only
> reason I like gEdit opposed to vim is because of the file browser side pane.
> But, to each his own. I prefer IDEs like training wheels. They help me
> understand concepts more easily. The terminal with a semi transparent
> background is looking pretty slick and not very cluttered on F13. The only
> real problems I'm running into are compatibility issues and I don't think
> either the cl or the IDE would remedy those more favorably.
>
> i'll check out rubymine. I like looking at different UI designs for this
> stuff anyways and can use without marrying.
>
> danka!
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ginty  wrote:
> > Sorry but the advice to "don't use an IDE because Rails doesn't need
> > one" is as dated as this book.
>
> > Today's IDEs give you significant advantages over a text editor, to
> > name but a few:
>
> > Visual debugging.
> > No Rails configuration required, already understands the Rails
> > structure for easy navigation.
> > Integration with Rspec et al; run tests with a click, visual debug
> > again, etc.
> > Integration with Git; browse your changes, 1-click to diff, etc.
>
> > Netbeans is good I agree (plus has an awesome flawless Vim plugin),
> > but I now use RubyMine which is better (although the Vim plugin
> > blows), but it's not free though.
>
> > On Jul 6, 7:16 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser  wrote:
> > > Bb Serviss wrote:
> > > > I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
> > > > book where I went through all the code examples.
>
> > > I haven't read that book, but based on all the technical errors in
> > > another one of Patrick's Rails books (Building Your Own RoR Web
> > > Applications), I'd tend to steer well clear of any of his Rails writing.
>
> > > > As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
> > > > editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.
>
> > > NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any advantage at
> > > all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do you mean
> > > by "the view NetBeans gives you"?
>
> > > Best,
> > > --
> > > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org
> > > mar...@marnen.org
>
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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Angel Robert Marquez
I don't know man. I used to work with these two dev guys that would debate
constantly over cygwin and eclipse. Personally at the time (bout a year ago)
I used both for whatever worked best for my understanding at the time. I do
find myself leaning towards the command line more these days. The only
reason I like gEdit opposed to vim is because of the file browser side pane.
But, to each his own. I prefer IDEs like training wheels. They help me
understand concepts more easily. The terminal with a semi transparent
background is looking pretty slick and not very cluttered on F13. The only
real problems I'm running into are compatibility issues and I don't think
either the cl or the IDE would remedy those more favorably.

i'll check out rubymine. I like looking at different UI designs for this
stuff anyways and can use without marrying.

danka!

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:22 PM, Ginty  wrote:

> Sorry but the advice to "don't use an IDE because Rails doesn't need
> one" is as dated as this book.
>
> Today's IDEs give you significant advantages over a text editor, to
> name but a few:
>
> Visual debugging.
> No Rails configuration required, already understands the Rails
> structure for easy navigation.
> Integration with Rspec et al; run tests with a click, visual debug
> again, etc.
> Integration with Git; browse your changes, 1-click to diff, etc.
>
> Netbeans is good I agree (plus has an awesome flawless Vim plugin),
> but I now use RubyMine which is better (although the Vim plugin
> blows), but it's not free though.
>
> On Jul 6, 7:16 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser  wrote:
> > Bb Serviss wrote:
> > > I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
> > > book where I went through all the code examples.
> >
> > I haven't read that book, but based on all the technical errors in
> > another one of Patrick's Rails books (Building Your Own RoR Web
> > Applications), I'd tend to steer well clear of any of his Rails writing.
> >
> >
> >
> > > As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
> > > editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.
> >
> > NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any advantage at
> > all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do you mean
> > by "the view NetBeans gives you"?
> >
> > Best,
> > --
> > Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org
> > mar...@marnen.org
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > --
> > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.
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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Ginty
Sorry but the advice to "don't use an IDE because Rails doesn't need
one" is as dated as this book.

Today's IDEs give you significant advantages over a text editor, to
name but a few:

Visual debugging.
No Rails configuration required, already understands the Rails
structure for easy navigation.
Integration with Rspec et al; run tests with a click, visual debug
again, etc.
Integration with Git; browse your changes, 1-click to diff, etc.

Netbeans is good I agree (plus has an awesome flawless Vim plugin),
but I now use RubyMine which is better (although the Vim plugin
blows), but it's not free though.

On Jul 6, 7:16 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser  wrote:
> Bb Serviss wrote:
> > I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
> > book where I went through all the code examples.
>
> I haven't read that book, but based on all the technical errors in
> another one of Patrick's Rails books (Building Your Own RoR Web
> Applications), I'd tend to steer well clear of any of his Rails writing.
>
>
>
> > As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
> > editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.
>
> NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any advantage at
> all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do you mean
> by "the view NetBeans gives you"?
>
> Best,
> -- 
> Marnen Laibow-Koserhttp://www.marnen.org
> mar...@marnen.org
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> --
> Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/.

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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Angel Robert Marquez
i'

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 5:16 PM, Marnen Laibow-Koser wrote:

> Bb Serviss wrote:
> > I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
> > book where I went through all the code examples.
>
> I haven't read that book, but based on all the technical errors in
> another one of Patrick's Rails books (Building Your Own RoR Web
> Applications), I'd tend to steer well clear of any of his Rails writing.
> >
> > As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
> > editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.
>
> NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any advantage at
> all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do you mean
> by "the view NetBeans gives you"?
>
> Best,
> --
> Marnen Laibow-Koser
> http://www.marnen.org
> mar...@marnen.org
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Bb Serviss wrote:
> I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
> book where I went through all the code examples.

I haven't read that book, but based on all the technical errors in 
another one of Patrick's Rails books (Building Your Own RoR Web 
Applications), I'd tend to steer well clear of any of his Rails writing.
> 
> As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
> editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.

NetBeans is a great IDE, but I do not believe it offers any advantage at 
all for Rails development (I use it for other stuff).  What do you mean 
by "the view NetBeans gives you"?

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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Agoofin
I really liked "Simply Rails 2" by Patrick Lenz. It's the only rails
book where I went through all the code examples.

As far as an IDE goes - I like Netbeans. You can code with a simple
editor but nothing beats the view Netbeans gives you.



On Jul 6, 4:11 pm, Marnen Laibow-Koser  wrote:
> Angel Marquez wrote:
>
> [...]
>
> > Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
>
> No.  Rails doesn't benefit from the use of an IDE.  Just use a good text
> editor.
>
>
>
> > I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
>
> Yeah, that may be better.  Personally, I'm fond of KomodoEdit.
>
>
>
> > Thoughts please.
>
> > Thank you.
>
> 
> You are using test-first development and version control, right?
> 
>
> Best,
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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Marnen Laibow-Koser
Angel Marquez wrote:
[...]
> Would you all recommend aptana radRails?

No.  Rails doesn't benefit from the use of an IDE.  Just use a good text 
editor.

> 
> I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.

Yeah, that may be better.  Personally, I'm fond of KomodoEdit.

> 
> Thoughts please.
> 
> Thank you.


You are using test-first development and version control, right?


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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Angel Robert Marquez
Thank you, appreciate it.

I'll read along, I just installed 3.0 and 1.9

That took some doing as well.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Eddy Josafat  wrote:

> The "classic" book for learning rails is "Agile Web Development with
> Rails", now in its fourth edition:
>
> http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails
>
> On 6 jul, 09:19, Angel Robert Marquez  wrote:
> > This was actually the book I have:http://apress.com/book/view/1590599942
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Angel Robert Marquez <
> >
> >
> >
> > angel.marq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I know, I didn't notice the date until..now.
> >
> > > Good thing I didn't pay for it; but, it was new on the shelf at the
> > > bookstore. Mislead. Capistrano deployment should vaporize
> > > all unnecessary literature on the shelfs as well...
> >
> > > That would be nice if you could link the iPad or any and all other
> docs..so
> > > many ancient relics out their to sift through.
> >
> > > Any baby teeth recommendations for an eager beaver? I'm willing to
> learn
> > > and not looking to take over.
> >
> > > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Frederick Cheung <
> > > frederick.che...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >> On Jul 6, 8:41 am, Angel Robert Marquez 
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
> >
> > >> > I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but,
> I'm
> > >> not
> > >> > sure.
> >
> > >> Well it does look a bit long in the tooth - The publication date is
> > >> given as oct 2007, shortly before the release of rails 2.0 and quite a
> > >> lot has changed since then
> >
> > >> Fred
> > >> > Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath
> openid
> > >> etc..
> >
> > >> > I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and
> forget
> > >> why I
> > >> > tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
> >
> > >> > Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come
> true.
> > >> Was
> > >> > able to deploy wp with it.
> >
> > >> > Also
> >
> > >> > Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
> >
> > >> > I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
> >
> > >> > Thoughts please.
> >
> > >> > Thank you.
> >
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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Eddy Josafat
The "classic" book for learning rails is "Agile Web Development with
Rails", now in its fourth edition:

http://www.pragprog.com/titles/rails4/agile-web-development-with-rails

On 6 jul, 09:19, Angel Robert Marquez  wrote:
> This was actually the book I have:http://apress.com/book/view/1590599942
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Angel Robert Marquez <
>
>
>
> angel.marq...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I know, I didn't notice the date until..now.
>
> > Good thing I didn't pay for it; but, it was new on the shelf at the
> > bookstore. Mislead. Capistrano deployment should vaporize
> > all unnecessary literature on the shelfs as well...
>
> > That would be nice if you could link the iPad or any and all other docs..so
> > many ancient relics out their to sift through.
>
> > Any baby teeth recommendations for an eager beaver? I'm willing to learn
> > and not looking to take over.
>
> > On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Frederick Cheung <
> > frederick.che...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >> On Jul 6, 8:41 am, Angel Robert Marquez 
> >> wrote:
> >> >http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
>
> >> > I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but, I'm
> >> not
> >> > sure.
>
> >> Well it does look a bit long in the tooth - The publication date is
> >> given as oct 2007, shortly before the release of rails 2.0 and quite a
> >> lot has changed since then
>
> >> Fred
> >> > Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath openid
> >> etc..
>
> >> > I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and forget
> >> why I
> >> > tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
>
> >> > Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come true.
> >> Was
> >> > able to deploy wp with it.
>
> >> > Also
>
> >> > Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
>
> >> > I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
>
> >> > Thoughts please.
>
> >> > Thank you.
>
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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Angel Robert Marquez
This was actually the book I have:
http://apress.com/book/view/1590599942

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:57 AM, Angel Robert Marquez <
angel.marq...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know, I didn't notice the date until..now.
>
> Good thing I didn't pay for it; but, it was new on the shelf at the
> bookstore. Mislead. Capistrano deployment should vaporize
> all unnecessary literature on the shelfs as well...
>
> That would be nice if you could link the iPad or any and all other docs..so
> many ancient relics out their to sift through.
>
> Any baby teeth recommendations for an eager beaver? I'm willing to learn
> and not looking to take over.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Frederick Cheung <
> frederick.che...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On Jul 6, 8:41 am, Angel Robert Marquez 
>> wrote:
>> > http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
>> >
>> > I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but, I'm
>> not
>> > sure.
>> >
>>
>> Well it does look a bit long in the tooth - The publication date is
>> given as oct 2007, shortly before the release of rails 2.0 and quite a
>> lot has changed since then
>>
>> Fred
>> > Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath openid
>> etc..
>> >
>> > I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and forget
>> why I
>> > tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
>> >
>> > Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come true.
>> Was
>> > able to deploy wp with it.
>> >
>> > Also
>> >
>> > Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
>> >
>> > I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
>> >
>> > Thoughts please.
>> >
>> > Thank you.
>>
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Re: [Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Angel Robert Marquez
I know, I didn't notice the date until..now.

Good thing I didn't pay for it; but, it was new on the shelf at the
bookstore. Mislead. Capistrano deployment should vaporize
all unnecessary literature on the shelfs as well...

That would be nice if you could link the iPad or any and all other docs..so
many ancient relics out their to sift through.

Any baby teeth recommendations for an eager beaver? I'm willing to learn and
not looking to take over.

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 12:47 AM, Frederick Cheung <
frederick.che...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Jul 6, 8:41 am, Angel Robert Marquez 
> wrote:
> > http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
> >
> > I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but, I'm not
> > sure.
> >
>
> Well it does look a bit long in the tooth - The publication date is
> given as oct 2007, shortly before the release of rails 2.0 and quite a
> lot has changed since then
>
> Fred
> > Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath openid
> etc..
> >
> > I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and forget why
> I
> > tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
> >
> > Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come true.
> Was
> > able to deploy wp with it.
> >
> > Also
> >
> > Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
> >
> > I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
> >
> > Thoughts please.
> >
> > Thank you.
>
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[Rails] Re: Is this book dated?

2010-07-06 Thread Frederick Cheung


On Jul 6, 8:41 am, Angel Robert Marquez 
wrote:
> http://apress.com/book/view/9781590597811
>
> I acquired this book and it has the info I thought I wanted; but, I'm not
> sure.
>

Well it does look a bit long in the tooth - The publication date is
given as oct 2007, shortly before the release of rails 2.0 and quite a
lot has changed since then

Fred
> Is there something better more current out there? RESTful oath openid etc..
>
> I'm coming from a wordpress to cake, codeigniter tinkering and forget why I
> tried rails; but, it seems pretty cool and intuitive.
>
> Appreciate the Capistrano rec prior. Super good, like a dream come true. Was
> able to deploy wp with it.
>
> Also
>
> Would you all recommend aptana radRails?
>
> I'm using vim & gEdit..they seem fitting.
>
> Thoughts please.
>
> Thank you.

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