[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On May 30, 6:38 pm, Jonathan Rochkind wrote: > Conrad Taylor wrote: > > An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If you > > use > > size the method with a counter > > cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. > > You can't possibly mean an Array, because an Array doesn't know anything > about going to databases or cacheing. An Array is just a list of stuff. > > You might mean an ActiveRecord Association collection object, which > behaves a lot like an array, but also has some 'magic' ActiveRecord > behavior on it. > > The fact that, as far as I know, there's no actual class name for this > AR association magic collection object, makes things rather confusing, I > agree. I think it's just some proxy methods singleton-added to an Array, > leaving us without a good name to call what it is, making things > confusing. Or if it really is a class, I don't know what it's called > cause it's not mentioned in the docs. This is a kind of a-bit-too-clever > ruby hacking that Rails, IMHO, uses sometimes when it doesn't really > have to, making things somewhat more confusing than they need to be. The classes in question are the various subclasses of ActiveRecord::AssociationCollection (eg HasManyAssociation) Fred > -- > Posted viahttp://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 10:38 AM, Jonathan Rochkind < rails-mailing-l...@andreas-s.net> wrote: > > Conrad Taylor wrote: > > An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If you > > use > > size the method with a counter > > cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. > > You can't possibly mean an Array, because an Array doesn't know anything > about going to databases or cacheing. An Array is just a list of stuff. > > You might mean an ActiveRecord Association collection object, which > behaves a lot like an array, but also has some 'magic' ActiveRecord > behavior on it. > > The fact that, as far as I know, there's no actual class name for this > AR association magic collection object, makes things rather confusing, I > agree. I think it's just some proxy methods singleton-added to an Array, > leaving us without a good name to call what it is, making things > confusing. Or if it really is a class, I don't know what it's called > cause it's not mentioned in the docs. This is a kind of a-bit-too-clever > ruby hacking that Rails, IMHO, uses sometimes when it doesn't really > have to, making things somewhat more confusing than they need to be. In regards to a counter cache column, I'm referring to an ActiveRecord::Base association as I indicated in my example. -Conrad > > -- > Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On Sat, May 30, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Conrad Taylor wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Julian Leviston > wrote: > >> >> On 27/05/2009, at 9:16 PM, Conrad Taylor wrote: >> >> > An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If >> > you use size the method with a counter >> > cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. For >> > example, you can do something >> > like this >> > >> >> Hi. Not sure where you got that from. >> >> Loading development environment (Rails 2.3.2) >> >> [].count >> NoMethodError: undefined method `count' for []:Array >>from (irb):1 >> >> [].size >> => 0 >> >> >> > > This statements are only true in regards to Ruby 1.8.6. For example, in > Ruby 1.9.1, one can easily do the following: > > irb(main):001:0> [].count > => 0 > irb(main):002:0> [].size > => 0 > > -Conrad > > >> >> -- >> Learn: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ >> Last updated 20-May-09 (Rails, Basic Unix) >> Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ >> Twitter: http://twitter.com/random8r >> >> >> >> >> > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 5:31 AM, Julian Leviston wrote: > > On 27/05/2009, at 9:16 PM, Conrad Taylor wrote: > > > An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If > > you use size the method with a counter > > cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. For > > example, you can do something > > like this > > > > Hi. Not sure where you got that from. > > Loading development environment (Rails 2.3.2) > >> [].count > NoMethodError: undefined method `count' for []:Array >from (irb):1 > >> [].size > => 0 > >> > > This statements are only true in Ruby prior to Ruby 1.8.6. For example, in Ruby 1.9.1, one can easily do the following: irb(main):001:0> [].count => 0 irb(main):002:0> [].size => 0 -Conrad > > -- > Learn: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ > Last updated 20-May-09 (Rails, Basic Unix) > Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/random8r > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
Conrad Taylor wrote: > An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If you > use > size the method with a counter > cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. You can't possibly mean an Array, because an Array doesn't know anything about going to databases or cacheing. An Array is just a list of stuff. You might mean an ActiveRecord Association collection object, which behaves a lot like an array, but also has some 'magic' ActiveRecord behavior on it. The fact that, as far as I know, there's no actual class name for this AR association magic collection object, makes things rather confusing, I agree. I think it's just some proxy methods singleton-added to an Array, leaving us without a good name to call what it is, making things confusing. Or if it really is a class, I don't know what it's called cause it's not mentioned in the docs. This is a kind of a-bit-too-clever ruby hacking that Rails, IMHO, uses sometimes when it doesn't really have to, making things somewhat more confusing than they need to be. -- Posted via http://www.ruby-forum.com/. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On 27/05/2009, at 9:16 PM, Conrad Taylor wrote: > An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If > you use size the method with a counter > cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. For > example, you can do something > like this > Hi. Not sure where you got that from. Loading development environment (Rails 2.3.2) >> [].count NoMethodError: undefined method `count' for []:Array from (irb):1 >> [].size => 0 >> -- Learn: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ Last updated 20-May-09 (Rails, Basic Unix) Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/random8r --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 3:08 AM, Julian Leviston wrote: > > > On 27/05/2009, at 7:32 PM, Vipin wrote: > > > > > > >>> so basically, I must use > >>> <% if @forms.count != 0 %> > >> > >> @forms.any? is slightly more idiomatic ruby > > > > <% if @forms.any? %> > > is working and i believe it doesn't have the penalty of SQL query > > too. > > > > @forms.count won't work because @forms will most likely be an Array > object, and an Array doesn't respond to count... it'll respond to > size, tho... An Array instance can respond to both count and size methods. If you use size the method with a counter cache column on the has_many side, you can cache the total. For example, you can do something like this class Post < ActiveRecord::Base has_many :comments end class Comment < ActiveRecord::Base belongs_to :post, :counter_cache => true end Note: You would add the counter cache column on the posts table like this using a migration: add_column :posts, :comments_count, :integer, :default => 0 Good luck, -Conrad > > @forms.size != 0 > > or you could do this > > unless(@forms.blank?) > > None of these will do a db connection because @forms contains objects > which have already been loaded (if they're from the database). > > Julian. > > -- > Learn: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ > Last updated 20-May-09 (Rails, Basic Unix) > Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ > Twitter: http://twitter.com/random8r > > > > thanks > > vipin > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On 27/05/2009, at 7:32 PM, Vipin wrote: > > >>> so basically, I must use >>> <% if @forms.count != 0 %> >> >> @forms.any? is slightly more idiomatic ruby > > <% if @forms.any? %> > is working and i believe it doesn't have the penalty of SQL query > too. > @forms.count won't work because @forms will most likely be an Array object, and an Array doesn't respond to count... it'll respond to size, tho... @forms.size != 0 or you could do this unless(@forms.blank?) None of these will do a db connection because @forms contains objects which have already been loaded (if they're from the database). Julian. -- Learn: http://sensei.zenunit.com/ Last updated 20-May-09 (Rails, Basic Unix) Blog: http://random8.zenunit.com/ Twitter: http://twitter.com/random8r > thanks > vipin > > > > --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
> > so basically, I must use > > <% if @forms.count != 0 %> > > @forms.any? is slightly more idiomatic ruby <% if @forms.any? %> is working and i believe it doesn't have the penalty of SQL query too. thanks vipin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On May 27, 9:44 am, Vipin wrote: > Thanks Fred. > so basically, I must use > <% if @forms.count != 0 %> @forms.any? is slightly more idiomatic ruby > > and about second point also, yes i got it through association only. > Also found that it doesn't have count method. The big difference is that count always makes an sql query (select count(*) ... ) whereas if the association is already loaded size just returns the length of the array. Fred --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On May 27, 1:42 pm, Frederick Cheung wrote: > On May 27, 9:35 am, Vipin wrote: > > > Looking for suggestions on following two queries. > > > Query 1 > > -- > > Are the two following lines of code different in Ruby / Rails ( in a > > *.html.erb) file. > > <% if @forms.count != 0 %> > > Vs. > > <% if @forms.count %> > > > @forms is an array of objects. Coming from "C" language development > > background, i thought they should be the same. FYI, second code > > doesn't give any error but still gets evaluated to TRUE. I confirmed > > by doing puts @forms.count in controller > > They are different. in ruby, 0 has the logical value true (only nil > and false have the logical value false) > > > > > Query 2 > > > > which one is preferred > > @forms. count or @forms.size > > @forms is an array. > > if forms is actually an array, forms.count doesn't exist (but it does > if it is an association proxy, eg person.friends). > > Fred > > > thanks > > vipin Thanks Fred. so basically, I must use <% if @forms.count != 0 %> and about second point also, yes i got it through association only. Also found that it doesn't have count method. I hope it is safe to use. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[Rails] Re: query on Ruby array
On May 27, 9:35 am, Vipin wrote: > Looking for suggestions on following two queries. > > Query 1 > -- > Are the two following lines of code different in Ruby / Rails ( in a > *.html.erb) file. > <% if @forms.count != 0 %> > Vs. > <% if @forms.count %> > > @forms is an array of objects. Coming from "C" language development > background, i thought they should be the same. FYI, second code > doesn't give any error but still gets evaluated to TRUE. I confirmed > by doing puts @forms.count in controller They are different. in ruby, 0 has the logical value true (only nil and false have the logical value false) > > Query 2 > > which one is preferred > @forms. count or @forms.size > @forms is an array. > if forms is actually an array, forms.count doesn't exist (but it does if it is an association proxy, eg person.friends). Fred > thanks > vipin --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Talk" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to rubyonrails-talk+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-talk?hl=en -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
