[rules-users] Wait state constriant

2010-07-22 Thread retoy

Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this wait state constraint?
System.currentTimeMillis() = (startWait + 3000)
The exception I'm getting ist:
[5,33]: [ERR 102] Line 5:33 mismatched input '=' expecting 'then' in rule
RuleFlow-Milestone-drools.test.timer-6
but I don't think that is really getting to the heart of the problem...
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Flow

2010-07-22 Thread Mauricio Salatino
what are the condition from both rules?
Can you share with us your processes definitions? did you check the process
ids?
Greetings

2010/7/22 santosh mukherjee sam.sensat...@gmail.com

 Hi,

 My rule file is like this:

 rule1:
 when something
 then
 start process(p1);

 rule2:
 when something
 then
 startprocess(p2);

 But in both the cases only p1 gets fired which was the rule flow that I
 last added to the builder.

 Can any body suggest me how to overcome this problem.??


 Thanks
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Integration

2010-07-22 Thread santosh mukherjee
Hi,

I am trying to integrate Drools with Apama. I have Apama installed and want
to pass the events mathched through Apama into Drools. Need help as to how
to proceed doing this. Basically I want that whenever a certain event
matches and is caught by Apama. I want to send it to the drl files which
will check the criteria and start relevant process.


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[rules-users] Problem with DRL language/ XLS decision tables.

2010-07-22 Thread tom ska
Hello,
I have a problem with defining rules. I insert many, many objects (facts) to
ksession object (StatefulKnowledgeSession). I want to fire rules for
*all*of them(facts), but I want to fire only one rule from all rules
for each one
fact(not always this same rule is fired, because I use salience).
activation-group is not appropriate, because it works only with one object
(fact) - rest is not processed by engine.
Second question is: how can I stop processing rules, bot only for one fact,
not for all of them.

Thanks,
tom.

P.S. forgive me my English... :)
P.S.2 Firstly I want to do this in DRL, then, I'll try with XLS, and write
post if I would find problems...
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Re: [rules-users] Problem with DRL language/ XLS decision tables.

2010-07-22 Thread Greg Barton
You could always have a pool of StatefulSessions that you reuse. (This would 
allow you to run concurrently in multiple threads as well.)  As long as these 
billions of facts don't need to interact that'll work fine.  However I'd 
suggest that you try the rule latch method that Thomas suggested.  That way 
you could tune the number of data objects you insert into a single pooled 
session, instead of inserting one at a time.  And I'm guessing that, no matter 
how efficient you get, throwing 2 billion in memory at once won't scale. :)

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From: tom ska tiberium.li...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Problem with DRL language/ XLS decision tables.
To: Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 9:17 AM

Hi,
thanks for so quick answer. I think, that using StatelessSession could be a 
solution, but as I understood, I have to insert only one fact to the facts 
base. But, I have about 2 billions of facts that I want to process with Drools, 
and execution time, is for me really important. A think, that inserting one 
fact at time means for me additional time to initialise engine (when adding a 
new fact, and removing old one). Am I right?


Thanks :)

2010/7/22 Pavel Tavoda pavel.tav...@gmail.com

Don't know details of your problem but it's typical situation where

you can use StatelessSession, insert one fact at time and use

activation-group.



Pavel



2010/7/22 tom ska tiberium.li...@gmail.com:

 Hello,

 I have a problem with defining rules. I insert many, many objects (facts) to

 ksession object (StatefulKnowledgeSession). I want to fire rules for all of

 them(facts), but I want to fire only one rule from all rules for each one

 fact(not always this same rule is fired, because I use salience).

 activation-group is not appropriate, because it works only with one object

 (fact) - rest is not processed by engine.

 Second question is: how can I stop processing rules, bot only for one fact,

 not for all of them.



 Thanks,

 tom.



 P.S. forgive me my English... :)

 P.S.2 Firstly I want to do this in DRL, then, I'll try with XLS, and write

 post if I would find problems...







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Re: [rules-users] Wait state constriant

2010-07-22 Thread retoy

Thanks for the reply. 

Just for the records: Chapter 3.5 of the Drools Flow User Guide says that
there are two kinds of constraints: (a) code constraints and (b) rule
constraints, where code constraints are boolean expressions.

So wait states obviously don't support code constraints... correct?

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Re: [rules-users] Problem with DRL language/ XLS decision tables.

2010-07-22 Thread tom ska
Thanks for reacting ;)
I did some simulations, and after them, I want of course to parallelize this
process of processing 2 billions facts. But as far as I wrote, Drools
engine, can't do this. And I have to create threads manually in application
(with pool of sessions). Am I right? Tuning number of data sounds fine to
me, so I will try method with rule latch too (but I have to read about
this, because, I don't know what is it, and I don't want to waste your time
;) But still I don't know how to use StatefulSessions to do this...
Summarising, there are 3 methods to do, what I want to do (apart of a
scalability problem - yet ;)
1.)with StatelessSession for one fact at time and activation group
2.)rule latch - I have to read more about it
3.)with a pool of StatefulSessions that I reuse - but I still don't know how
to do it using StatefulSessions
Really thanks for help ;)


P.S. I use Drools 5 :)


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Re: [rules-users] Problem with DRL language/ XLS decision tables.

2010-07-22 Thread Greg Barton
Considering that googling on rule latch will return this thread on gmane as 
the 2nd link, you might find research difficult. :)  I think Tom coined that 
term in this context, but it fits.  The basic idea is that you use an object as 
an indicator of what processing has happened, and whether or not rules should 
fire.

class RuleLatch {
  public final String name;
  public final DataObject dataObject;
  public RuleLatch(String name, DataObject dataObject) { 
    this.name = name; this.dataObject = dataObject;
  }
}

when 
  data: DataObject(...selection conditions for data...)
  level1Latch: RuleLatch(name == level1Foo, dataObejct == data)
  level2Latch: RuleLatch(name == level2Bar, dataObject == data)
then
  ...if this rule wants to cancel all subsequent level1Foo it retracts 
level1Latch...

  ...if this rule wants to cancel all subsequent level2Bar it 
retractslevel2Latch...
end

An alternative, more efficient, but not as OO happy way, is to put the control 
information into the DataObject itself.  Drools does a lot of optimization on 
the == tests with hashing, but if speed is a priority it might not be enough.  
So...

class DataObject {
  public boolean level1Foo = true;

  public boolean level2Bar = true;
}

when 

  data: DataObject(level1Foo == true, level2Bar == true, ...selection 
conditions for data... )
then

  ...if this rule wants to cancel all subsequent level1Foo it updates 
level1Foo = false...


  ...if this rule wants to cancel all subsequent level2Bar it updates 
level2Bar = false...

end



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From: tom ska tiberium.li...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [rules-users] Problem with DRL language/ XLS decision tables.
To: Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Date: Thursday, July 22, 2010, 11:50 AM


Thanks for reacting ;)
I did some simulations, and after them, I want of course to parallelize this 
process of processing 2 billions facts. But as far as I wrote, Drools engine, 
can't do this. And I have to create threads manually in application (with pool 
of sessions). Am I right? Tuning number of data sounds fine to me, so I will 
try method with rule latch too (but I have to read about this, because, I 
don't know what is it, and I don't want to waste your time ;) But still I don't 
know how to use StatefulSessions to do this...

Summarising, there are 3 methods to do, what I want to do (apart of a 
scalability problem - yet ;)
1.)with StatelessSession for one fact at time and activation group

2.)rule latch - I have to read more about it
3.)with a pool of StatefulSessions that I reuse - but I still don't know how to 
do it using StatefulSessions

Really thanks for help ;)


P.S. I use Drools 5 :)


  
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Re: [rules-users] java.lang.NoSuchMethodError on every Action node

2010-07-22 Thread Kris Verlaenen
Reto,

This seems to be a conflict with similar actions in different processes
overriding each other.  I'll take a look at this and try to fix it asap,
and keep you updated.

Kris

Quoting retoy reto.lampre...@allianz-suisse.ch:

 
 Hi Kris
 
 Here is a small project which demonstrates a similar problem with
 two
 actions. Unfortunately i could not reproduce the noSuchMethodError in
 this
 setup yet, but i still think the behavior is not as it should be.
 

http://drools-java-rules-engine.46999.n3.nabble.com/file/n986527/demo.action.problem.zip
 demo.action.problem.zip 
 
 If both ruleflow packages have the same name and the two ruleflows
 are added
 in this order:
 addRuleFlow(kbuilder, demo.rf);
 addRuleFlow(kbuilder, subflow.rf);
 the output is:
 execute subflow...
 execute subflow...
 If the two flows are added in reverse order, the output is:
 demo ruleflow started...
 demo ruleflow started...
 If one of the package names is changed, the output is what I would
 expect:
 demo ruleflow started...
 execute subflow...
 What do you think about that?
 
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Re: [rules-users] Deserialization Error from Designer when Process Opened in Gunvor

2010-07-22 Thread Kris Verlaenen
Hi,

Regarding the designer integration, it is probably important to know
that Oryx is still using the BPMN2 beta 1 format, while Drools Flow has
already updated to a more recent BPMN2 format.  As a result, you
probably can't open the processes that are generated by the Drools Flow
graphical editor in Eclipse.

We do still support the editing and execution of processes using the
BPMN2 beta 1 format.  So it might probably be best to just:
 * use the Oryx editor to create a new version of your process and use
that in your example
 * manually change the namespace of your process to the beta 1 namespace
and then use the editor (if you use the beta1 namespace, the editor will
also save in that format)
 * manually construct / update to a BPMN2 beta1 file (or look for beta 1
examples in previous milestone releases of Drools Flow).

Note that the Oryx integration is still experimental and proof of
concept, and we hope to improve this significant once Oryx moves to the
BPMN2 final format.

Kris

Quoting Han Ming hanmin...@gmail.com:

 Hi,
 
 I'm using guvnor build 4173 from the trunk.
 
 In addition, I have install the designer web application downloaded
 from
 http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/labs/labs/jbossrules/contrib/designer/
 
 I have uploaded the Evaluation.bpmn from the install/sample
 directory
 
 However, when I tried to open the Evaluation process in Gunvor, a 
 deserialization error is thrown.
 
 I have captured the screenshot at
 http://img231.imageshack.us/g/oryxerror2.jpg/
 and, attached the stacktrace at the end of the mail.
 
 Also, there is a small glitch in that the oryx frame does not
 occupied the 
 whole page on FireFox 3.5.30729.
 
 In addition, I notice there is a consistent message in the console
 (not just 
 in this build) when guvnor is first started that it mention that The
 
 serialization policy file  was not found and later You may
 experience 
 SerializationExceptions as a result
 
 This is the log I have captured in an earlier installation.
 I still see it in build 4173 but can't locate it in the logs
 
 INFO: guvnorService: ERROR: The serialization policy file 
 '/org.drools.guvnor.Guvnor/8C09DDC749E5C9386FC25E9AAE396D31.gwt.rpc'
 was not 
 found; did you forget to include it in this deployment?
 Jul 14, 2010 1:54:02 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext
 log
 SEVERE: guvnorService: WARNING: Failed to get the SerializationPolicy
 
 '8C09DDC749E5C9386FC25E9AAE396D31' for module 
 'http://localhost:8080/drools-guvnor/org.drools.guvnor.Guvnor/'; a
 legacy, 
 1.3.3 compatible, serialization policy will be used.  You may
 experience 
 SerializationExceptions as a result.
 Jul 14, 2010 2:02:10 PM org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationContext
 log
 
 
 Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
 Thanks.
 
 
 
 Han Ming
 
 
 
 
 
 
 2010-07-22 13:37:35,109 ERROR [STDERR]
 javax.xml.bind.UnmarshalException: 
 unexpected element
 (uri:http://www.omg.org/spec/BPMN/20100524/MODEL;, 
 local:definitions). Expected elements are 

{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}activityResource,{http://bpmndi.org}activityShape,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}adHocSubProcess,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}association,{http://bpmndi.org}associationConnector,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}boundaryEvent,{http://bpmndi.org}bpmnCompartment,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}businessRuleTask,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}callActivity,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}callConversation,{http://bpmndi.org}callConversationShape,{http://bpmndi.org}calledSubprocessShape,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}cancelEventDefinition,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}choreography,{http://bpmndi.org}choreographyActivityShape,{http://bpmndi.org}choreographyDiagram,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}choreographySubProcess,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}choreographyTask,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}collaboration,{http://bpmndi.org}collaborationDiagr!
 
am,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}communication,{http://bpmndi.org}communicationShape,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}compensateEventDefinition,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}complexBehaviorDefinition,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}complexGateway,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}conditionalEventDefinition,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}conversation,{http://bpmndi.org}conversationDiagram,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}conversationLink,{http://bpmndi.org}conversationLinkConnector,{http://bpmndi.org}dataAssociationConnector,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}dataInput,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}dataInputAssociation,{http://bpmndi.org}dataInputShape,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}dataObject,{http://bpmndi.org}dataObjectShape,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}dataOutput,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPMN/2.0}dataOutputAssociation,{http://bpmndi.org}dataOutputShape,{http://schema.omg!
  .org/spec/BPMN/2.0}dataStore,{http://schema.omg.org/spec/BPM!
  N/2.0}da
 


Re: [rules-users] Wait state constriant

2010-07-22 Thread Kris Verlaenen
Reto,

State nodes only support rule constraints.  The reason is that a
constraint in a wait state should be continuously evaluated (while the
state is active), and the only way to do that efficiently is to use a
rule for that (as that is basically what a rules engine is good at).

I know the docs on the state node are outdated, will be updating this in
the next few days, as this was updated as one of the new 5.1 features.

For some simple examples, you can currently check out the junit tests
though:
http://anonsvn.jboss.org/repos/labs/labs/jbossrules/trunk/drools-compiler/src/test/java/org/drools/integrationtests/ProcessStateTest.java

Kris

Quoting retoy reto.lampre...@allianz-suisse.ch:

 
 Can anyone tell me what's wrong with this wait state constraint?
 System.currentTimeMillis() = (startWait + 3000)
 The exception I'm getting ist:
 [5,33]: [ERR 102] Line 5:33 mismatched input '=' expecting 'then' in
 rule
 RuleFlow-Milestone-drools.test.timer-6
 but I don't think that is really getting to the heart of the
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Re: [rules-users] Drools with spring

2010-07-22 Thread sonytvpm
Hi thanks for reply
Do I need drools server
I am mainly using drools flow
Regards
Sonu

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On 23-Jul-2010, at 9:26 AM, Mark Proctor mproc...@codehaus.org wrote:

  On 23/07/2010 01:54, sonyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all
 I would like to integrate drools with spring
 If any body have example project share with me I will use spring 3
 with drools 5.1
 http://lucazamador.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/drools-server-configuration-updated/
 http://blog.athico.com/2010/07/declarative-rest-services-for-drools.html

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Re: [rules-users] Drools with spring

2010-07-22 Thread Mark Proctor
  On 23/07/2010 02:50, sonyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi thanks for reply
 Do I need drools server
 I am mainly using drools flow
drools-server uses drools-spring and drools-camel.

drools-spring can be used alone. Drools-server can just be used as an 
example project to get an idea of how it works, likewise look at the 
drools-spring unit tests to get more of an idea.

Mark
 Regards
 Sonu

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   On 23/07/2010 01:54, sonyt...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi all
 I would like to integrate drools with spring
 If any body have example project share with me I will use spring 3
 with drools 5.1
 http://lucazamador.wordpress.com/2010/07/20/drools-server-configuration-updated/
 http://blog.athico.com/2010/07/declarative-rest-services-for-drools.html

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[rules-users] StackOverflowError when serializing KnowledgeBase

2010-07-22 Thread Andargor
Hello,

After adding a few hundred rules, and with the same code, KnowledgeBase 
serialization has started to generate StackOverflowError. I have increased the 
VM stack size as a workaround, but I was hoping to implement something more 
robust.

I specifically need to serialize the KnowledgeBase, and not the session.

I'm using this code:

private void dumpKnowledgeBase(String file, KnowledgeBase kbase) {
   try {
   FileOutputStream ostream = new FileOutputStream(file);
   DroolsObjectOutputStream p = new 
DroolsObjectOutputStream(ostream);
   p.writeObject(kbase);
   p.flush();
   ostream.close();
   }
   catch (Exception e) {
   System.err.println(e);
   e.printStackTrace();
   System.err.println(Could not write knowledge base +file);
   }
}


This is due to writeObject recursion? Any ideas?

A.


  
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