[rules-users] Drools Guvnor 5.4.0.Final running on JBoss AS 6.1

2012-10-30 Thread Patricia Bogoevici








Hi all,

I am running Drools Guvnor 5.4.0.Final on JBoss AS 6.1. I removed some 
libraries that were conflicting, and I also removed from the web.xml, the 
BeanManager resource env. After those changes, the app starts up, but it fails 
when bootstrapping Weld, when wrapping injection target to IdentityImpl class, 
failing on unsatisfied dependencies. The reported error varies, as sometimes 
the unsatisfied dependencies are [HttpSession] , [Credentials] 
or [PermissionMapper]. 




I am stuck on this error, any input is much appreciated.




The detailed error message:

  Deployment 
vfs:///myPath/jboss-6.1.0.Final/server/default/deploy/myAPP.war_WeldBootstrapBean
 is in error due to the following reason(s): 
org.jboss.weld.exceptions.DeploymentException: WELD-001408 Unsatisfied 
dependencies for type [HttpSession] with qualifiers [@Default] at injection 
point [[field] @Inject org.jboss.seam.security.IdentityImpl.session], **ERROR**
  Deployment java:global/cdi/myAPP/myAPP/BeanManager is in error due to the 
following reason(s): ** NOT FOUND Depends on 
'java:global/cdi/myAPP/myAPP/BeanManager' **


or


Deployment 
vfs:///myPath/jboss-6.1.0.Final/server/default/deploy/myAPP.war_WeldBootstrapBean
 is in error due to the following reason(s): 
org.jboss.weld.exceptions.DeploymentException: WELD-001408 Unsatisfied 
dependencies for type [PermissionMapper] with qualifiers [@Default] at 
injection point [[field] @Inject private 
org.jboss.seam.security.IdentityImpl.permissionMapper], **ERROR**
 Deployment java:global/cdi/myAPP/myAPP/BeanManager is in error due to the 
following reason(s): ** NOT FOUND Depends on 
'java:global/cdi/myAPP/myAPP/BeanManager' **






Excluded libraries from war:
                   xml-apis-1.3.04.ja
                 xmlParserAPIs-2.6.2.jar
                 jsf-api-1.2.jar
                 jta-1.1.jar
                 jaxen-1.1.1.jar
                 jaxb-xjc-2.2.5.jar
                 weld-servlet-core-1.1.6.Final.jar
                 weld-api-1.1.Final.jar
                 weld-core-1.1.6.Final.jar
                 weld-spi-1.1.Final.jar
                 xercesImpl-2.9.1.jar
                 dom4j-1.6.1.jar
                 cdi-api-1.0-SP4.jar
                 javassist-3.14.0-GA.jar
                 javax.inject-1.jar
                 jboss-interceptors-api_1.1_spec-1.0.0.Beta1.jar
                 jsr250-api-1.0.jar
                 persistence-api-1.0.jar
                 shrinkwrap-api-1.0.0-cr-1.jar
                 shrinkwrap-impl-base-1.0.0-cr-1.jar
                 shrinkwrap-spi-1.0.0-cr-1.jar

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[rules-users] Error in adding BRL in Guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread vargheseps
I have created a Model  named applicationHealth which contain a class
“com.xyz.rims.model.Application” on Guvnor.
Also created a Business rule asset named  ‘ApplicationHealthRule’  which
uses  ‘Application’.  I have 
created a business rule task in a BPMN2  process and gave the
‘ruleflow-group’ as same as a Business rule assets .

kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newUrlResource(DROOLS_COMMON_URL+ApplicationHealthRule/binary),
ResourceType.BRL);
I used the above code to add the resource to kbuilder The error I get is:

[Unable to resolve ObjectType 'Application' : [Rule
name='ApplicationHealthRule']
]




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Re: [rules-users] Error in adding BRL in Guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread Esteban Aliverti
If you are using the binary version of your package you should use
ResourceType.PKG.

Best Regards,



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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 7:15 AM, vargheseps varghesep...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have created a Model  named applicationHealth which contain a class
 “com.xyz.rims.model.Application” on Guvnor.
 Also created a Business rule asset named  ‘ApplicationHealthRule’  which
 uses  ‘Application’.  I have
 created a business rule task in a BPMN2  process and gave the
 ‘ruleflow-group’ as same as a Business rule assets .


 kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newUrlResource(DROOLS_COMMON_URL+ApplicationHealthRule/binary),
 ResourceType.BRL);
 I used the above code to add the resource to kbuilder The error I get is:

 [Unable to resolve ObjectType 'Application' : [Rule
 name='ApplicationHealthRule']
 ]




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Re: [rules-users] Drool rules vs java code, effiency

2012-10-30 Thread cheikh dhib
Hello,
This is what i think (has to be confirmed from specialist)

Every thing you do in Drools you can do it as well in Java. But if you 
have a modification on your java code, you have to modify, then compile 
and deploy. contrary to the Drl rules which are interpreted, so after 
modification you don't need to do any thing just save your modification. 
So in the case of drools you have some flexibility which means that the 
rules can be managed directly by the decider and not the developer.

regards,
Cheikh


Le 29/10/2012 23:57, kina06 a écrit :
 Please don't ignore this question as routine, did google and read posting,
 didn't get satisfying answer, hope you guys can help.

 I have seen some drool rules in our company, I know drools provide
 declarative rules, easy to modify etc etc, but I see it does need some
 programming knowledge, so why not put all your rule logic into Java code,
 what is drools doing different can't be implemented in Java a separate
 package (like your logic package). Except losing flexibility of modify
 code/logic in text file I don't  see much benefit.

 Please help me understand, whats the major benefit of drools rules that
 can't be done in Java with same set of concise code.



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Re: [rules-users] Error in adding BRL in Guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread vargheseps
when i use ResourceType.PKG i got the following exception when trying to add
to kbuilder
java.lang.RuntimeException: java.io.StreamCorruptedException: invalid stream
header: 3C72756C

In my project when i created the Application not inside any package(ie in
src)  every thing is working fine.
but when i use com.xyz.rims.model.Application ,resource is added to kbuilder
with the error
 [Unable to resolve ObjectType 'Application' : [Rule
name='ApplicationHealthRule']
]

In model that has been uploaded i used the package structure in both the
above cases

can  any one help
Varghese p s



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Re: [rules-users] Drool rules vs java code, effiency

2012-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Laun
See below.

On 30/10/2012, Esteban Aliverti esteban.alive...@gmail.com wrote:
 For simple validation rules the main benefit of using drools is the
 decoupling of your business logic from your application. Another benefit is
 the power of DRL language. For example, implementing the 'exists',
 'collect', 'accumulate', 'from' etc. behavior in plain java is not a
 trivial task.

This enumeration omits the most important feature available in a rule's
condition: the dynamic creations of all Cartesian products of facts
matching the constraints. Example:

   $p: Person( age = 60 )
   Car( owner == $p )

This finds all cars owned by persons over 60, which relieves you from the task
of writing loops to determine all matching combinations, which can become quite
cumbersome with increasing complexity.

 In Drools you already have all that power and you can create
 really complex rules with just a few lines of DRL.
 For more complex scenarios, you can use Drools for:

- make inference (impossible to do in java without implementing some
kind of inference engine).
- use temporal patterns in your rules.
- Use TMS
- more...

There is the option of creating a domain specific language on top
of DRL, which is one way of making your business logic intellegible
to non-programmers, so that they can at least understand what's
going on.

-W



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 - Blog @ http://ilesteban.wordpress.com


 On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:43 AM, cheikh dhib dhib.che...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,
 This is what i think (has to be confirmed from specialist)

 Every thing you do in Drools you can do it as well in Java. But if you
 have a modification on your java code, you have to modify, then compile
 and deploy. contrary to the Drl rules which are interpreted, so after
 modification you don't need to do any thing just save your modification.
 So in the case of drools you have some flexibility which means that the
 rules can be managed directly by the decider and not the developer.

 regards,
 Cheikh


 Le 29/10/2012 23:57, kina06 a écrit :
  Please don't ignore this question as routine, did google and read
 posting,
  didn't get satisfying answer, hope you guys can help.
 
  I have seen some drool rules in our company, I know drools provide
  declarative rules, easy to modify etc etc, but I see it does need some
  programming knowledge, so why not put all your rule logic into Java
  code,
  what is drools doing different can't be implemented in Java a separate
  package (like your logic package). Except losing flexibility of modify
  code/logic in text file I don't  see much benefit.
 
  Please help me understand, whats the major benefit of drools rules that
  can't be done in Java with same set of concise code.
 
 
 
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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
I tried adding modify() and modify(account), both are failing, can someone
help me fix this.



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Re: [rules-users] Guvnor 5.4.Final can't save BPMN process imported from 5.3 repo

2012-10-30 Thread mpgong
Not sure what else i should have upgraded.  I thought i could just export the
existing repo and reimport it.

I decided to recreate things in 5.4 since i didn't have that much in there. 
But when i tried to import my process from eclipse i'm getting this warning
: not sure what is going on.  I did upgrade the designer to 2.3 as well, not
sure if that is causing it.  

Thanks

09:48:01,962 INFO 
[org.drools.guvnor.server.files.AuthorizationHeaderChecker]
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-5)  authenticated for rest api
09:48:01,962 ERROR [org.drools.repository.RulesRepository]
(http--0.0.0.0-8080-5) Caught Exception: javax.jcr.RepositoryException: This
session has been closed. See the chained exception for a trace of where the
session was closed.
at
org.apache.jackrabbit.core.session.SessionState.checkAlive(SessionState.java:121)
[jackrabbit-core-2.2.8.jar:2.2.8]
at
org.apache.jackrabbit.core.SessionImpl.sanityCheck(SessionImpl.java:366)
[jackrabbit-core-2.2.8.jar:2.2.8]
at
org.apache.jackrabbit.core.SessionImpl.getRootNode(SessionImpl.java:715)
[jackrabbit-core-2.2.8.jar:2.2.8]
at
org.drools.repository.RulesRepository.getAreaNode(RulesRepository.java:213)
[guvnor-repository-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
org.drools.repository.RulesRepository.loadModule(RulesRepository.java:429)
[guvnor-repository-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
org.drools.repository.RulesRepository.loadGlobalArea(RulesRepository.java:681)
[guvnor-repository-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl.loadGlobalAreaFromRepository(WebDAVImpl.java:912)
[guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl.handleReadOnlyGlobalAreaPackages(WebDAVImpl.java:222)
[guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl.getChildrenNames(WebDAVImpl.java:196)
[guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl$Proxy$_$$_WeldClientProxy.getChildrenNames(WebDAVImpl$Proxy$_$$_WeldClientProxy.java)
[guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at
net.sf.webdav.methods.DoPropfind.recursiveParseProperties(DoPropfind.java:217)
[webdav-servlet-2.0.jar:]
at net.sf.webdav.methods.DoPropfind.execute(DoPropfind.java:165)
[webdav-servlet-2.0.jar:]
at
net.sf.webdav.WebDavServletBean.service(WebDavServletBean.java:128)
[webdav-servlet-2.0.jar:]
at
org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebdavServlet.service(WebdavServlet.java:73)
[guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:847)
[jboss-servlet-api_3.0_spec-1.0.0.Final.jar:1.0.0.Final]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:329)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.jboss.weld.servlet.ConversationPropagationFilter.doFilter(ConversationPropagationFilter.java:62)
[weld-core-1.1.5.AS71.Final.jar:2012-02-10 15:31]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:280)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.jboss.solder.servlet.exception.CatchExceptionFilter.doFilter(CatchExceptionFilter.java:65)
[solder-impl-3.1.1.Final.jar:3.1.1.Final]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:280)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.jboss.solder.servlet.event.ServletEventBridgeFilter.doFilter(ServletEventBridgeFilter.java:74)
[solder-impl-3.1.1.Final.jar:3.1.1.Final]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:280)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardWrapperValve.invoke(StandardWrapperValve.java:275)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardContextValve.invoke(StandardContextValve.java:161)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.jboss.as.web.security.SecurityContextAssociationValve.invoke(SecurityContextAssociationValve.java:154)
[jboss-as-web-7.1.0.Final.jar:7.1.0.Final]
at
org.apache.catalina.core.StandardHostValve.invoke(StandardHostValve.java:155)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at
org.apache.catalina.valves.ErrorReportValve.invoke(ErrorReportValve.java:102)
[jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
at

Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Laun
On 30/10/2012, kina06 reach...@gmail.com wrote:
 I tried adding modify() and modify(account), both are failing, can someone
 help me fix this.

What, exactly, do you have in your rule so it fails? Did you read the
Expert documentation? modify() is certainly incorrect,

-W




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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
Ok, I fixed my issue, by adding no-loop tag to the rule and using
update(account) as last line in then clause. I don't know what's the
consequence of using no-loop, if I don't put that but just use update it
loop infinitely.





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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Laun
See the Expert manual: modify, update, no-loop - it's all there...
-W

On 30/10/2012, kina06 reach...@gmail.com wrote:
 Ok, I fixed my issue, by adding no-loop tag to the rule and using
 update(account) as last line in then clause. I don't know what's the
 consequence of using no-loop, if I don't put that but just use update it
 loop infinitely.





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Re: [rules-users] Guvnor 5.4.Final can't save BPMN process imported from 5.3 repo

2012-10-30 Thread mpgong
Fixed the other issue with importing from eclipse.

Is there documentation somewhere on how to properly upgrade from 5.3 to 5.4?

I thought that maybe i would be able to recreate my packages and import the
process from eclipse but that gave the same error above.

Not sure Maybe you did not upgrade all the code including property files ?
meant.

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Re: [rules-users] Guvnor 5.4.Final can't save BPMN process imported from 5.3 repo

2012-10-30 Thread Tihomir Surdilovic
I don't see any Designer specific error(s) in your provided logs. This 
seems like a possible issue with Guvnor and the Drools Eclipse plugin. 
Will deffer to experts in that field to provide more info.
Just FYI, with jBPM easiest way to get started is to use the jBPM 
installer which bundles the AS, Guvnor, Designer, jBPM Console, and 
Eclipse (with proper plugins). With the new release around the corner 
you could either wait for that or use the latest jBPM release bits on 
sourceforge.

HTH
On 10/30/12 9:53 AM, mpgong wrote:
 Not sure what else i should have upgraded.  I thought i could just export the
 existing repo and reimport it.

 I decided to recreate things in 5.4 since i didn't have that much in there.
 But when i tried to import my process from eclipse i'm getting this warning
 : not sure what is going on.  I did upgrade the designer to 2.3 as well, not
 sure if that is causing it.

 Thanks

 09:48:01,962 INFO
 [org.drools.guvnor.server.files.AuthorizationHeaderChecker]
 (http--0.0.0.0-8080-5)  authenticated for rest api
 09:48:01,962 ERROR [org.drools.repository.RulesRepository]
 (http--0.0.0.0-8080-5) Caught Exception: javax.jcr.RepositoryException: This
 session has been closed. See the chained exception for a trace of where the
 session was closed.
  at
 org.apache.jackrabbit.core.session.SessionState.checkAlive(SessionState.java:121)
 [jackrabbit-core-2.2.8.jar:2.2.8]
  at
 org.apache.jackrabbit.core.SessionImpl.sanityCheck(SessionImpl.java:366)
 [jackrabbit-core-2.2.8.jar:2.2.8]
  at
 org.apache.jackrabbit.core.SessionImpl.getRootNode(SessionImpl.java:715)
 [jackrabbit-core-2.2.8.jar:2.2.8]
  at
 org.drools.repository.RulesRepository.getAreaNode(RulesRepository.java:213)
 [guvnor-repository-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 org.drools.repository.RulesRepository.loadModule(RulesRepository.java:429)
 [guvnor-repository-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 org.drools.repository.RulesRepository.loadGlobalArea(RulesRepository.java:681)
 [guvnor-repository-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl.loadGlobalAreaFromRepository(WebDAVImpl.java:912)
 [guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl.handleReadOnlyGlobalAreaPackages(WebDAVImpl.java:222)
 [guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl.getChildrenNames(WebDAVImpl.java:196)
 [guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebDAVImpl$Proxy$_$$_WeldClientProxy.getChildrenNames(WebDAVImpl$Proxy$_$$_WeldClientProxy.java)
 [guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at
 net.sf.webdav.methods.DoPropfind.recursiveParseProperties(DoPropfind.java:217)
 [webdav-servlet-2.0.jar:]
  at net.sf.webdav.methods.DoPropfind.execute(DoPropfind.java:165)
 [webdav-servlet-2.0.jar:]
  at
 net.sf.webdav.WebDavServletBean.service(WebDavServletBean.java:128)
 [webdav-servlet-2.0.jar:]
  at
 org.drools.guvnor.server.files.WebdavServlet.service(WebdavServlet.java:73)
 [guvnor-webapp-core-5.4.0.Final.jar:5.4.0.Final]
  at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:847)
 [jboss-servlet-api_3.0_spec-1.0.0.Final.jar:1.0.0.Final]
  at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:329)
 [jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
  at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248)
 [jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
  at
 org.jboss.weld.servlet.ConversationPropagationFilter.doFilter(ConversationPropagationFilter.java:62)
 [weld-core-1.1.5.AS71.Final.jar:2012-02-10 15:31]
  at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:280)
 [jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
  at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.doFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:248)
 [jbossweb-7.0.10.Final.jar:]
  at
 org.jboss.solder.servlet.exception.CatchExceptionFilter.doFilter(CatchExceptionFilter.java:65)
 [solder-impl-3.1.1.Final.jar:3.1.1.Final]
  at
 org.apache.catalina.core.ApplicationFilterChain.internalDoFilter(ApplicationFilterChain.java:280)
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  at
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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
How do I let the Drools know the changes made so the next rule has the
changes. Can I use update function, can you share some links where I can I
read on this.



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Laun
http://docs.jboss.org/drools/release/5.5.0.CR1/drools-expert-docs/html_single/index.html

4.8.4. The Right Hand Side (then)

-W

On 30/10/2012, kina06 reach...@gmail.com wrote:
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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
Does update(account) causes all rules to be rerun? I don't want that, at the
same time I don't want to use modify as it's not very easy to use, I have
several rules that I will hve to change 

I like the option of coding like the following and then one function call
that will notify the rule engine that this object is modified so next rule
has latest changes.


account.setSomeField(');
account.setStatus('');
account.setExpiry(xyxCalss.getExpiryDate());

NOW call a function to notify that account is changed.

How can I do it?



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
This looks like such a basic functionality and I'm not getting any help. I
can't seem to understand why update function keep calling the function, is
there no way to let drools know that I modifed an object values so it gives
me the updated object in next rule. Please help, this is such a basic step
without which I cna't proceed any further.



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Greg Barton
This is a list for support of the drools product, but there is some expectation 
that you will figure out some basic functionality by reading the docs and 
putting some thought into it. :)

In general, though, the next rule is whatever rule matches the objects 
currently in working memory.  If you don't want a given rule to fire you should 
make sure that the objects altered no longer match it after they are changed.  
In your original example the Account object matched in Rule1 has no conditions 
on it at all, meaning any Account in working memory will be matched, so it's no 
wonder that it's being matched repeatedly.

Also, I'm puzzled by your calls to StringUtils.equals() in the rule conditions. 
 Did you not try this?

account : Account(accountStatus == NEW)


Again, in the docs, this is the recommended way to test object properties.



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This looks like such a basic functionality and I'm not getting any help. I
can't seem to understand why update function keep calling the function, is
there no way to let drools know that I modifed an object values so it gives
me the updated object in next rule. Please help, this is such a basic step
without which I cna't proceed any further.



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Re: [rules-users] Calling Technical rule assets in Guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread Michael Anstis
Are you sure the AgendaFilter is not causing the Technical Rule to be
excluded?

On 29 October 2012 12:17, Manasi manasi.a.da...@capgemini.com wrote:

 Hi,

 How to call Technical rule assets stored in Guvnor from Java application?

 Currently I have one drl rule which is stored in Technical rule assets
 section.

 But I am not able to call it from my Java application.

 I am using following code to call my rules stored in Guvnor :

 UrlResource urlResource = (UrlResource)
 ResourceFactory.newUrlResource(
 http://localhost:8080/drools-guvnor/org.drools.guvnor.Guvnor/package/GuiKontrolKiss.FeltKnapRestriktionerKundeMedAnl/LATEST
 );
 urlResource .setBasicAuthentication(enabled);
 urlResource.setUsername(admin);
 urlResource.setPassword(admin);
 urlResource.setResourceType(ResourceType.PKG);

 KnowledgeBuilder kbuilder = KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder();
 try {
 kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newInputStreamResource(urlResource
 .getInputStream()),
 ResourceType.PKG);
 } catch (IOException e) {
 e.printStackTrace();
 }
 KnowledgeBase kbase = kbuilder.newKnowledgeBase();
 // create session
 StatefulKnowledgeSession session = kbase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();
 NyssCaseSO caseSO = droolsRequest.getNyssCaseSO();
 NyssCaseStateSO caseState = caseSO.getNyssCaseStateSO();
 NyssOfferSO offerSO = droolsRequest.getNyssOfferSO();

 session.insert(caseSO);
 session.insert(offerSO);
 session.insert(caseState);

 AgendaFilter filter = new AgendaFilter() {
 public boolean accept(Activation activation) {
 if (activation.getRule().getName().contains(testDrl)) {
 return true;
 }
 return false;
 }
 };
 session.fireAllRules(filter);

 for (Object o : session.getObjects()) {
 if (o instanceof ResultSO) {
 ResultSO resultSO = (ResultSO) o;
 reply.setResultSO(resultSO);
 }
 }
 session.dispose();

 With above I am able to call my rules stored in *Business rule assets*
 section.

 Thanks,
 Manasi



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
Yes I tried account : Account(accountStatus == NEW)

In above posts it's mentioned that I have to use modify or update, when use
that it fires rules recursively without stopping.

Will it possible to test my code, I can provide the Account class code as
well it's just two fields in it.



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Wolfgang Laun
Identify the requirements for changing your data. For instance, what
*exactly*
is the state of an Account fact x when it should be subject to
   x.setAccountStatus( PENDING );
Any value of accountStatus? All values *except* PENDING? null? ...?

Make sure to constrain Account() in this and any other rule by adding the
correct boolean expression between the parens.

modify( x ){ set...(...), set...(...) } is the preferred way of notifying
the Drools
Engine that a fact has changed and all rules potentially referring to this
fact need to be reconsidered; the fact's history is irrelevant.
x.set...(...); x.set...(...); update( x ); is essentially the same.

Using salience is (usually) the wrong approach, as is no-loop, which
will avoid only on-the-spot reactivation - you can still loop over two or
more rules.

-W

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 Yes I tried account : Account(accountStatus == NEW)

 In above posts it's mentioned that I have to use modify or update, when use
 that it fires rules recursively without stopping.

 Will it possible to test my code, I can provide the Account class code as
 well it's just two fields in it.



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Greg Barton
You can stop the recursive firing by 1) having conditions in the rules that 
stop recursion, (similar to a stop condition in a for loop) and 2) using update 
or modify to tell the rules engine that the properties have changed.  



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Yes I tried account : Account(accountStatus == NEW)

In above posts it's mentioned that I have to use modify or update, when use
that it fires rules recursively without stopping.

Will it possible to test my code, I can provide the Account class code as
well it's just two fields in it.



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
Code put in this posting is just a sample code I have put together to test
this functionality.

So modify/update will cause all rules to rerun, in that case I need to make
sure that each rule is atomic and be idempotentn, i.e. to be able run the
rules n times still no same consequence.

What's drools.halt() used for, does it halt the rule process for that fact
or for all facts in teh session?



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Re: [rules-users] Adding custom metadata fields in guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread sguruprasanna
Can someone answer this please? Is this possible at all? 



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread Davide Sottara
When an object is insert in the working memory, it will be matched against
all rules: some of them will become active, because the logic expressed in
there applies to your fact, some others will not. 
So, Wolfgang has pointed out an important detail: make sure that there is a
strong logic correlation
(implication) between the conditions in the LHS and the actions in the RHS,
so that you don't execute 
unwanted actions.

Given the fact that evaluation and execution take place in two different
stages (see Esteban's email 
for details), a change in the object's status MAY invalidate the conditions,
but the engine needs to know about that: by the time a rule is executed, it
won't go back and double-check the conditions unless told so.

So (citing Greg this time): if your logic is sound, and you apply modify
appropriately, you should not get
into a loop - or, if you do get into a loop, it's because it's necessarily
imposed by the application logic
(I'm assuming that there are other external ways to control the loop
termination), for example:

rule controlled loop
when 
  $x : X( $n : val  10 )
then
  modify ($x) { setVal( $n + 1 ); }
end

as opposed to:

rule loop
when 
  $x : X( $n : val  )
then
  modify ($x) { setVal( $n + 1 ); }
end

rule breaker
salience 10
when
 $x : X( val  10 )
then
  retract( $x );
end


This said, there are cases when your same fact is shared between two
separate contexts:

rule One of rules dealing with age
when
  $p : Person( $a : age )
  $b : Birthday( person == $p )
then
  modify ($p) { setAge( $a+1 ); }
  
end

rule One of rules dealing with salary
when
  $p : Person( $s : salary  100 )
then
  modify ($p) { setAge( $a+1 ); }
  
end

Here, it's not so evident which conditions should be added to prevent
unwanted interaction. Or, even
if you could, it would not be the best approach to mix the two business
logics...
In this case, there is a feature called *@propertyReactive* which I strongly
invite you to look up in the
manual AFTER you're feeling completely comfortable with the basic behaviour.
Best
Davide


p.a. drools.halt is only used in combination with fireUnitlHalt(), which
means that the engine will not
wait for an explicit command to fire the active rules. It's a global
behaviour that shuts down the
engine, so it's not recommended for loop control.



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Re: [rules-users] Field value is different when and then section, very strange. Is it mvel vs java issue

2012-10-30 Thread kina06
Davide,
   Thanks a bunch!!

/When an object is insert in the working memory, it will be matched against
all rules: some of them will become active, because the logic expressed in
there applies to your fact, some others will not. 
So, Wolfgang has pointed out an important detail: make sure that there is a
strong logic correlation 
(implication) between the conditions in the LHS and the actions in the RHS,
so that you don't execute 
unwanted actions. 

Given the fact that evaluation and execution take place in two different
stages (see Esteban's email 
for details), a change in the object's status MAY invalidate the conditions,
but the engine needs to know about that: by the time a rule is executed, it
won't go back and double-check the conditions unless told so. /
 Yes above information is very valuable, that evaluation and execution is
 done in two steps/stages, I feel this understanding is very critical, now
 I see why an update is necessary to let the process know that it has
 reevaulate rules, but at the same token I should be careful with my when
 condition, it should be very specific.

/there are cases when your same fact is shared between two separate
contexts/ 
 Yes, my rules fall under this category.

Thank you all!! All I'm trying to do is understand how it works rather than
just get a solution and move on.




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[rules-users] Noob desperately needing help

2012-10-30 Thread zaphod
So, we have a massive web-based application with a rules engine powered by
drools 4.0.7...I have a time-based rule that fires, executes about 80% of
the java code, and then just stops.  No error, no exception, no nothing...it
just stops.  Until I restart the node, all rules processing is suspended. 
I've let this process run for 24 hours without intervention, but it really
is hung.  And I know it's not in a loop, as I'm outputting console messages,
and I know the exact line that the app is hanging on. I have tried upgrading
to drools 5.4, but we didn't write the kernel of the rules engine, and I'm
not really in the mood to deal with re-writing it, unless I absolutely have
to.

This is the first time I've ever seen anything like this, and this app has
been running for 4 years with no rules-engine issues.  We use it
everywherewe are an EMS research organization supporting 3 states, and
the application uses the rules engine to determine state-based EMS logic. 
We also use it as a timing trigger to email notifications to various EMS
personnel to notify them of hospital facility closings, bed availability,
etc.

I have absolutely no idea what the problem is, or how to present it to the
mailing list users in a way that might identify what the issue really
is...so anyone who is game to help, ask me questions, and I'll answer them
as best I can.

Thanks for anyone interested in helping debug this issue

Paul Cooper
Developer
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Re: [rules-users] Noob desperately needing help

2012-10-30 Thread zaphod
I will provide some code, however:

The rule that fails


The runNeedleChestDecompressionReport method:


And the method in the zip utility that fails (I'm using zip4j, as I need to
password-protect the zip file):


One additional useful pointif I remove the compression call (in other
words, I skip the call to compress the file and just send the attachment as
a CSV file, it works fine, and the rule completes.



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Re: [rules-users] Noob desperately needing help

2012-10-30 Thread zaphod
Code posting failif you want to help, I guess go to the mailing list web
site and read the codesigh



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Re: [rules-users] Noob desperately needing help

2012-10-30 Thread Davide Sottara
From your description, it does not seem a rule engine issue... Have you tried
reproducing the problem
outside the rule engine? I.e. invoking the ZipUtil in a more traditional
context? 
And does it get stuck with ANY bytearray or just with that one particular
input?





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Re: [rules-users] Error in adding BRL in Guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread vargheseps
A very Thanks for the replay as i was able to proceed...
As you said earlier whwn i gave 
kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newUrlResource(ip:port/drools-guvnor/rest/packages/RulesAnd
ModelPackage/binary/,ResourceType.PKG);
every thing works fine.

But if  i gave package as whole to kbuilder.add(), and if the package
contains any assets which is corrupted/has   errors then the kbuilder will
have errors.

so is there any solution other than adding the all package..

Regards
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Re: [rules-users] Adding custom metadata fields in guvnor

2012-10-30 Thread Jervis Liu
On 2012/10/30 6:39, sguruprasanna wrote:
 Is it possible to add custom meta data fields in guvnor?

 Majority of our rules are EDI rules. So I was wondering if it is possible to
 have metadata fields to contain information like Trading partner name, or
 EDI format (820, 315 etc), etc so that the business users would be able to
 search for any EDI 820 rules, or any rules for tradingpartner XYZ etc..

There were talks to support custom metadata In Guvnor, however such 
feature has not been put on the to-do-list yet. You may want to create a 
feature request through Jira and vote for it ;-)

Cheers,
Jervis
 Please let me know.

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