[rules-users] Drools Server with alternate JSON library

2013-09-09 Thread labate
Drools Server uses XStream to handle JSON.

I would like to know if it is possible to use an alternate JSON library,
like Jackson or GSON?

Thanks.



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Re: [rules-users] counter in slidingTime window with restriction

2013-09-09 Thread amarok
I tried to narrow it down a little but have no idea where the erroneous
firing of slidingTimeCount comes from. It annoys me especially because I
want to know when rules fire and why. I tried debugging with eclipse but it
doesnt bring me much further (the debugger stops at least 3 times for each
event in this rule, whereas it is fired only once - I never got too many
outputs when debugging, but I sometimes get the 0 output (apparently when
I am slow) - this is weird behaviour

how can the condition be evaluated before the accumulation is reduced?



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Re: [rules-users] counter in slidingTime window with restriction

2013-09-09 Thread Davide Sottara
Please open a JIRA ticket and post your test case, we'll investigate
Davide

On 09/08/2013 11:31 PM, amarok wrote:
 I tried to narrow it down a little but have no idea where the erroneous
 firing of slidingTimeCount comes from. It annoys me especially because I
 want to know when rules fire and why. I tried debugging with eclipse but it
 doesnt bring me much further (the debugger stops at least 3 times for each
 event in this rule, whereas it is fired only once - I never got too many
 outputs when debugging, but I sometimes get the 0 output (apparently when
 I am slow) - this is weird behaviour

 how can the condition be evaluated before the accumulation is reduced?



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Re: [rules-users] Guvnor REST api, compile package

2013-09-09 Thread anchi
I could not figure out why compile is not working. I solved it by changing
Guvnor source - i removed 'is up to date' check.

Now I have one more concern, is there a REST method to delete snapshot?
Documentation mentions just snapshot creation.



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Re: [rules-users] A Drools CEP Scenario - did I get it right?

2013-09-09 Thread Alexander Wolf
The question is more or less where to begin. 

1. If there is a Fact in working memory (e.g. Person) and I invoke 
fireAllRules() twice, I would expect to have the following rule fire both times:

rule alwaysFire
when
$room : Room( )
then
System.out.println(there is a room);
end

I would also expect this rule to fire every time I invoke fireAllRules()

rule alwaysFire2
when
then
System.out.println(always!);
end

Both rules fire only once (the first time) even though the Working Memory is 
the same. (The room still exists...). I expected the rule to fire each time 
fireAllRules() is invoked and for the number of Rooms e.g. with 4 rooms - 4x 
output there is a room.

2. It seems to be impossible to set the pseudo clock to a specific time. How 
can I test CRON timer rules?!



On 08.09.2013, at 18:51, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com wrote:

 What did not happen as you expected?
 
 The HTTP session to Knowledge session association seems reasonable; but I 
 assume you are trying with a more simple configuration initially.
 
 Sent on the move
 
 On 8 Sep 2013 17:42, amarok m...@alexander-wolf.net wrote:
 I got the following scenario:
 - I need a Web Service that reasons over received sensor events (1000+ per
 day and client) in realtime and send messages if certain patterns occur.
 - The web service has many clients (100-1000) but their events / facts do
 not interfere (each client has his own state and events that change his
 state).
 - Each client also has his own rules (10-100) (but they are parameterized
 generic rules - I thought maybe I could use rule templates or DSL to let
 clients individualize their rules).
 - Some rules are time dependant (e.g. if event (type=x) does not occour at
 least within half an hour after 8:00 a.m. (where 8 o'clock is a rule
 parameter) - send a message), others are accumulative (e.g. if number of
 events within 5h is  3).
 
 
 I'd like to use drools CEP for this. I already read some documentation and
 tutorials but my first examples do not really work as I expected. Now I fear
 to have some general misconception about Drools/CEP. If someone could have a
 look over my ideas, I'd be very glad!
 
 
 How I would do it:
 - Every client would have his own KnowledgeBase with his (individualized)
 rules. Rules would be stored in guvnor or on a mysql database as plain text.
 - Every client would have his own KnowledgeBase / StatefullKnowledgeSession
 on the service, that knows about recent sensor events and some facts about
 the client. Events automatically are disposed of once they are not relevant
 anymore.
 - A static hashmap will hold references to the session for each client.
 (clientID - KnowledgeSession)
 - Sessions are created when a new client joins the system, but are normally
 not disposed unless the client completely leaves the system.
 - When a new Event is received (HTTP PUT), the session corresponding to the
 client would be retrieved from the HashMap and the new event would be
 inserted via an event stream. Then (for every new event)
 session.fireAllRules() would be called on the clients KnowledgeSession.
 
 - The Knowledge Base would run in STREAM mode to be able to reason over
 time windows and automatically expire (=delete?!) events. This would keep
 memory usage in within bounds(?)
 - pseudo clock allows me to write tests or simulate the system with records
 of old events. (Is it possible to test timer, cron and sliding-window rules
 with pseudo clock? Can I explicitly set the time of the pseudo clock?)
 
 I appreciate your help!
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [rules-users] A Drools CEP Scenario - did I get it right?

2013-09-09 Thread Wolfgang Laun
1. A fact doesn't change until it *is* changed or the knowledge base
destined to operate it changes: so why should reasoning due to
the unchanged fact be repeated, with all consequential actions.

Continuing your line of thought would result in a hopeless muddle
if all consequences are re-executed each time fireAllRules is
called even where facts and rules haven't changed.

2. This works fine to adjust the pseudo-clock to the time of the next event,
about to be inserted in a playback run:

PseudoClockScheduler clock;

private void advance( Date eventDate ){
long currentTime = clock.getCurrentTime();
long eventTime = eventDate.getTime();
clock.advanceTime( eventTime - currentTime, TimeUnit.MILLISECONDS );
}

-W


On 09/09/2013, Alexander Wolf m...@alexander-wolf.net wrote:
 The question is more or less where to begin.

 1. If there is a Fact in working memory (e.g. Person) and I invoke
 fireAllRules() twice, I would expect to have the following rule fire both
 times:

 rule alwaysFire
 when
   $room : Room( )
 then
   System.out.println(there is a room);
 end

 I would also expect this rule to fire every time I invoke fireAllRules()

 rule alwaysFire2
 when
 then
   System.out.println(always!);
 end

 Both rules fire only once (the first time) even though the Working Memory is
 the same. (The room still exists...). I expected the rule to fire each time
 fireAllRules() is invoked and for the number of Rooms e.g. with 4 rooms -
 4x output there is a room.

 2. It seems to be impossible to set the pseudo clock to a specific time. How
 can I test CRON timer rules?!



 On 08.09.2013, at 18:51, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com wrote:

 What did not happen as you expected?

 The HTTP session to Knowledge session association seems reasonable; but I
 assume you are trying with a more simple configuration initially.

 Sent on the move

 On 8 Sep 2013 17:42, amarok m...@alexander-wolf.net wrote:
 I got the following scenario:
 - I need a Web Service that reasons over received sensor events (1000+
 per
 day and client) in realtime and send messages if certain patterns occur.
 - The web service has many clients (100-1000) but their events / facts do
 not interfere (each client has his own state and events that change his
 state).
 - Each client also has his own rules (10-100) (but they are parameterized
 generic rules - I thought maybe I could use rule templates or DSL to let
 clients individualize their rules).
 - Some rules are time dependant (e.g. if event (type=x) does not occour
 at
 least within half an hour after 8:00 a.m. (where 8 o'clock is a rule
 parameter) - send a message), others are accumulative (e.g. if number of
 events within 5h is  3).


 I'd like to use drools CEP for this. I already read some documentation
 and
 tutorials but my first examples do not really work as I expected. Now I
 fear
 to have some general misconception about Drools/CEP. If someone could have
 a
 look over my ideas, I'd be very glad!


 How I would do it:
 - Every client would have his own KnowledgeBase with his
 (individualized)
 rules. Rules would be stored in guvnor or on a mysql database as plain
 text.
 - Every client would have his own KnowledgeBase /
 StatefullKnowledgeSession
 on the service, that knows about recent sensor events and some facts
 about
 the client. Events automatically are disposed of once they are not
 relevant
 anymore.
 - A static hashmap will hold references to the session for each client.
 (clientID - KnowledgeSession)
 - Sessions are created when a new client joins the system, but are
 normally
 not disposed unless the client completely leaves the system.
 - When a new Event is received (HTTP PUT), the session corresponding to
 the
 client would be retrieved from the HashMap and the new event would be
 inserted via an event stream. Then (for every new event)
 session.fireAllRules() would be called on the clients KnowledgeSession.

 - The Knowledge Base would run in STREAM mode to be able to reason over
 time windows and automatically expire (=delete?!) events. This would keep
 memory usage in within bounds(?)
 - pseudo clock allows me to write tests or simulate the system with
 records
 of old events. (Is it possible to test timer, cron and sliding-window
 rules
 with pseudo clock? Can I explicitly set the time of the pseudo clock?)

 I appreciate your help!











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[rules-users] Dynamic ValueRangeProvider

2013-09-09 Thread Andrew Varner
Optaplanners,

I'm looking to add some dynamic goodness to ValueRangeProvider. The only way I 
see to specify a ValueRangeProvider is via annotation.

I'd like to be able to generate the id and Collection of candidate values 
dynamically. Is it possible to generate the ValueRangeProvider data outside of 
an annotation?

For example:

public class MyDataSource {
  public Collection getValues(String id) {
…
return values;
  }
} 

Thanks,
Drew
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Re: [rules-users] How to the setdrools.dialect.mvel.strictusingDrools+Spring?

2013-09-09 Thread srikanthmalli
Did you ever resolve the issue, I get the same error?



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[rules-users] how to check difference between two .pkg files

2013-09-09 Thread maunakea
I have 2 .pkg files that are 2 snapshots for the same package from 2
different Guvnor instances. The 2 Guvnor instances are prod and test. I see
that within Guvnor, it can show diff between 2 snapshots in its repository.
If Guvnor can do it, there must be some API that I can use outside in a
standalone program to compare between .pkg file. Anybody knows how to do
this?

thanks



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Re: [rules-users] how to check difference between two .pkg files

2013-09-09 Thread Zahid Ahmed
Hi,

It depends which version of Guvnor u r using. If its 5.x then, there are two 
ways to do this;

1. Use guvnor provided REST interface to get information related to packages.
2. Use JackRabbit API to directly access the repository as Guvnor 5.x uses 
JackRabbit as the assets repository.

Regards,
Zahid Ahmed

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Subject: [rules-users] how to check difference between two .pkg files

I have 2 .pkg files that are 2 snapshots for the same package from 2 different 
Guvnor instances. The 2 Guvnor instances are prod and test. I see that within 
Guvnor, it can show diff between 2 snapshots in its repository.
If Guvnor can do it, there must be some API that I can use outside in a 
standalone program to compare between .pkg file. Anybody knows how to do this?

thanks



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