Re: [rules-users] Any way to make an AgendaEventListener always attach to any ksession from the same kbase?

[Wolfgang Laun]

I can't speak for the team, but my reasons are:

- The API (even the public one) is already very rich, and extensions
should be considered very carefully.
- You'd have to have the code for defining the listeners anyway - so
why not execute it on each session?
- Having a single listener listen to multiple sessions running in
parallel is hardly useful, and so your proposal is only good for a
sequential succession of sessions.
- For the sequentail case: you could easily attach the listener from
within a high-priority rule to the session by which it is executed.
Note that this is practically identical to having the listeners
defined with the knowledge base.

-W

On 17/09/2013, Sonata  wrote:
> laune wrote
>> No, there isn't, and there are good reasons not to add it.
>
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Re: [rules-users] Any way to make an AgendaEventListener always attach to any ksession from the same kbase?

[Sonata]

laune wrote
> No, there isn't, and there are good reasons not to add it.

Thanks for letting me know. It would be great if you can also let us know
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Re: [rules-users] Synchronization issue in Guvnor Cluster Setup

[Zahid Ahmed]

Hi Kulpreet,

I have seen both the repository.xml files. What I can clearly see is that u 
have not configured it to work with database. You are using file-system 
persistence managers as u mentioned in your question. 

You have configured common/shared journal for both the nodes, which is fine. 
But you should configure a common/shared 
1. 
2. 
3. 

Cluster will work if u have a common data storage area (either on common file 
system location OR on common database). But in your case both the Guvnors are 
keeping data in individual non-shared file system. I could be wrong if 
following paths are shared paths but they seem to be different for both the 
guvnors.
1. ${rep.home}
2. ${wsp.home}

MY Configurations are working fine and are based on DataBase. I am attaching my 
config file. The only differenc in guv1 and guv2 is the node name. i.e. 
  and 

Regards,

Zahid


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Hi Zahid,
Thanks for your response. PFA both the repository.xml files for respective 
guvnor instances.

Regards,
Kulpreet Singh
Copy_of_repository_for_guv1.xml

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Re: [rules-users] Drools 5.5 : Problems with big rules file (~1.5Meg)

[Nicolas Héron]

Hi,
In your rule, in the then part do you create java objects ?
THe best thing would be to have a test case that reproduce this so we can
help to find out.
You should add some listeners to see what is happening, maybe some rules do
an infinite loops or stuff like this ? You have to find out which rule, set
of rules do your effect.
I do not think it comes from drools. I did project with 200k rules, it is
slow to build the package but once this is done, the rest works perfectly.
Have you tried to cut your drl file in smaller files ?
Cheers
Nicolas


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> Hi Nicolas
>
> Thx for your quick answer.
>
> Ok, i forgot some informations:
> Using : Java6.0.45 X64 (same problems using Java 7 X64)
>
> No, i don't use listeners.
> I tried with up to 10Gig without success.
>
> My (reduced) workflow is :
>
> 1) 
> kbuilder = KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder();
> kbuilder.add(ResourceFactory.newClassPathResource(RULES_PATH, getClass()),
> ResourceType.DRL);
> kbase = KnowledgeBaseFactory.newKnowledgeBase();
> kbase.addKnowledgePackages(kbuilder.getKnowledgePackages());
> 
> 2) 
> StatefulKnowledgeSession ruleSession =
> kbase.newStatefulKnowledgeSession();
>   so far so good
> 3) insert two supporter objects in session
> 4) add two more worker objects in session
> 5) fire all rules
> 6) read and retract all expected objects
> 7) dispose session
>
> Processing Steps 2)-7) (in a loop with different worker objects, to
> produce load, so there is always only
>  one session active) work fine for a view times (3-9) then the mentioned
> exception occurs.
> I also tried it with 10gig for the jvm but in either test the memoryload
> does not exceed 3gig.
>
> With a reduced rules file size (to < 500k; removed some rules, to test
> this) i can handle 30(!)
> loops without any exceptions.
>
> Hope this infos will help.
>
> Regards
> Peter
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[rules-users] How to get all rules filed, drools camel server

[srikanthmalli]

Hi,

Could you please suggest me a way to get the list of rules fired (rule name
and metadata) from drools camel server?

I am thinking of doing using List SetGlobal variable and use
customAgendaListener to populate the list with rule metadata then do the
getGlobal on client side. If this is the right way to do it, could you
please let me know how to define/set global list?

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Re: [rules-users] Issue with simple accumulate sum rule

[stelomax]

Problem solved...was not an issue with Accumulate.  It was an issue with my
understanding of decision tables.

I had missed the all important "update" off the action of the decision
table.  This lead to some peculiar behavior where println the fact worked
fine, but executing a rule on the fact took the previous value of the fact.
I am assuming this is down to the way the rules engine works when firing
rules as opposed to simply retrieving values?

Regardless the issue is resolved, thanks for your help (and patience) as
always.

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Re: [rules-users] Issue with simple accumulate sum rule

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On 16/09/2013, stelomax  wrote:
> Problem solved...was not an issue with Accumulate.  It was an issue with my
> understanding of decision tables.
>
> I had missed the all important "update" off the action of the decision
> table.  This lead to some peculiar behavior where println the fact worked
> fine, but executing a rule on the fact took the previous value of the fact.
> I am assuming this is down to the way the rules engine works when firing
> rules as opposed to simply retrieving values?

If your decisions depend on what's going on behind your back, you need
to be told, too ;-) And that's also the basic principle of rule
evaluation where facts may change.

-W

>
> Regardless the issue is resolved, thanks for your help (and patience) as
> always.
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Re: [rules-users] How to get all rules filed, drools camel server

[srikanthmalli]

rulesActivatedList.add(rul);
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Re: [rules-users] How to get all rules filed, drools camel server

[srikanthmalli]

Here is what I did, it works fine but just wanted to make sure this is right
way, please experts confirm.


public class CustomAgendaEventListener extends DefaultAgendaEventListener
implements AgendaEventListener {
public static final String RULE_ACTIVATED_LIST_IDENT =
"RuleActivatedList";
public void beforeActivationFired(BeforeActivationFiredEvent bafe) {
final Rule rule = bafe.getActivation().getRule();
RuleData rul = new RuleData();
rul.setRuleName(rule.getName());
rul.setRuleType(rule.getPackageName());
rul.setRuleMetaData(rule.getMetaData());

List rulesActivatedList = (List)
bafe.getKnowledgeRuntime().getGlobal(RULE_ACTIVATED_LIST_IDENT);

if (null == rulesActivatedList)
{
rulesActivatedList = new ArrayList();
rulesActivatedList.add(rul);
try{
Globals globals = bafe.getKnowledgeRuntime().getGlobals();
globals.set(RULE_ACTIVATED_LIST_IDENT, rulesActivatedList);
}
catch (Exception e)
{
System.out.println("Error adding RuleActivatedList to
Gloabl");
e.printStackTrace();
}
}
//System.out.println("*Before:*" +
rule.getPackageName() + "." + rule.getName());
}

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Re: [rules-users] Drools 5.5 : Problems with big rules file (~1.5Meg)

[Nicolas Héron]

Hi,
Are you using listeners ? if yes you should unregister them from the
working memory and apply the dispose method to be sure all memory is
..disposed !
Your file may be big but as binary, you package may not be so big and it
depends also of how many objects you inserted in the working memory
(StatefullKnowledgeSessions).
Also, I guess your are using jdk 64 bits ? Then you can use more memory
then just 1.5 GB.
Your error message is strange. Does it work if you keep all rules but
reduce the number of // sessions ?
You should give us more info.
Cheers
Nicolas


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> Hi community
>
> I have actually some problems to work with my rules file (.drl).
> It is about 1.5Meg (~2500 rules)
>
> After creating multiple sessions (3 to 9; StatefulKnowledgeSessions) i get
> an exception.
>
> Usually '... java.lang.RuntimeException: cannot invoke method: update ...'
> or directly and 'evaluate(Unknown Source) ...) is thrown.
>
> After reducing the rules file size to less than 500k it works without any
> exceptions.
>
> Using:
> Drools 5.5
> Win7 X64 / 16G Ram
>
> Does anyone have similar problems ?
> Are there any known memory problems within Drools 5.5 ?
> Or is my rules file unusually big ?
>
> T.i.a.
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Re: [rules-users] Synchronization issue in Guvnor Cluster Setup

[kulpreet_singh]

Hi Zahid,
Thanks for your response. PFA both the repository.xml files for respective
guvnor instances.

Regards,
Kulpreet Singh
Copy_of_repository_for_guv1.xml

  
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Re: [rules-users] Exception in thread "main" org.drools.ProviderInitializationException

[Wolfgang Laun]

The stack dump you've posted does not match the jars you have
"included"; check line 108 in KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java. Looks like
a version mixup in your classpath.

-W

PS: Next time, requesting a solution "ASAP" might induce me to sent an invoice.

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On 16/09/2013, poonam.lig...@wipro.com  wrote:
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>  Hi,
>
> I have included following jars:
>
> drools-api-5.0.1.BRMS
> drools-compiler-5.1.1
> drools-api-5.1.1
> drools-core-5.1.1
>
> I am getting below error:
>
> Exception in thread "main" org.drools.ProviderInitializationException:
> Provider org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderProviderImpl could not be
> set.
> at
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.loadProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:111)
> at
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.getKnowledgeBuilderProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:101)
> at
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:29)
> at com.comp.drools.SimpleRule.createKnowledgeBase(SimpleRule.java:84)
> at com.comp.drools.SimpleRule.main(SimpleRule.java:32)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException:
> org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderProviderImpl
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
> at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
> at
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.loadProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:108)
> ... 4 more
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Re: [rules-users] Exception in thread "main" org.drools.ProviderInitializationException

[Mark Proctor]

you are mixing jar versions. Specifically project 5.1.1 and product 5.0.1.

If you are customer with a Red Hat BRMS subscription, can you please ask this 
question on the customer support portal. Where it will be handled under SLA for 
guaranteed response times.

Either way, you can't mix and match jar versions.

Mark
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> 
>  Hi,
> 
> I have included following jars:
> 
> drools-api-5.0.1.BRMS
> drools-compiler-5.1.1
> drools-api-5.1.1
> drools-core-5.1.1
> 
> I am getting below error:
> 
> Exception in thread "main" org.drools.ProviderInitializationException: 
> Provider org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderProviderImpl could not be 
> set.
> at 
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.loadProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:111)
> at 
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.getKnowledgeBuilderProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:101)
> at 
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:29)
> at com.comp.drools.SimpleRule.createKnowledgeBase(SimpleRule.java:84)
> at com.comp.drools.SimpleRule.main(SimpleRule.java:32)
> Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
> org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderProviderImpl
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
> at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
> at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
> at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
> at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
> at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
> at 
> org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.loadProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:108)
> ... 4 more
> 
> I have configured eclipse JBPM plugin
> using java 7 and apache tomcat 7
> 
> Please help me finding solution ASAP.
> 
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Re: [rules-users] Any way to make an AgendaEventListener always attach to any ksession from the same kbase?

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On 16/09/2013, Sonata  wrote:
> Hi, I have been adding AgendaEventListener to any newly created ksession.
> Once the session disposed, will have to add again to the next ksession.
>
> Is there a way (like an option or config) to set the listener to the kbase,
> so that all the ksession coming from that kbase has this listener by
> default?

No, there isn't, and there are good reasons not to add it.

If I had this requirement, I'd probably implement a Proxy for
KnowledgeBase with the added functionality of maintaining the
listeners and doing the required magic when a new session is created
from the Knowledge Base.

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[rules-users] Exception in thread "main" org.drools.ProviderInitializationException

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 Hi,

I have included following jars:

drools-api-5.0.1.BRMS
drools-compiler-5.1.1
drools-api-5.1.1
drools-core-5.1.1

I am getting below error:

Exception in thread "main" org.drools.ProviderInitializationException: Provider 
org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderProviderImpl could not be set.
at 
org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.loadProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:111)
at 
org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.getKnowledgeBuilderProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:101)
at 
org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.newKnowledgeBuilder(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:29)
at com.comp.drools.SimpleRule.createKnowledgeBase(SimpleRule.java:84)
at com.comp.drools.SimpleRule.main(SimpleRule.java:32)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: 
org.drools.builder.impl.KnowledgeBuilderProviderImpl
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
at java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method)
at java.lang.Class.forName(Unknown Source)
at 
org.drools.builder.KnowledgeBuilderFactory.loadProvider(KnowledgeBuilderFactory.java:108)
... 4 more

I have configured eclipse JBPM plugin
using java 7 and apache tomcat 7

Please help me finding solution ASAP.

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Re: [rules-users] help

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You have successfully posted a message on the Drools user list, which
is read by thousands of people, so please take care what you write.

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[poonam.ligade]

Hi,

I want to post a query.
Could you please let me know the process.
I am getting error As 'You are not allowed to post on this link'.

Thanks,
Poonam

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