Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API

2009-08-04 Thread Michael Rhoden


Michael Neale would know better on the progress, but we discussed this exact 
feature back at Javaone a few months ago. My view is the selectors are still 
experimental, but are very close to being able to use. There have been talks 
about how to harden it up and do just what you are asking for. I believe there 
is a REST api for guvnor as well as webdav, but I dont think they talk to the 
selectors yet, though I could be wrong. 



Given this is a feature we want, and I know Michael Neale has agreed its a good 
idea and needed, what is your interest in Co-developing/Testing something like 
this with us? 

Michael Rhoden 
VP - IT Development 
Franklin American Mortgage Company 
Direct: 615-778-1117 
Fax: 615-778-2766 
Email: mrho...@franklinamerican.com 

- Original Message - 
From: Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com 
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org 
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 10:42:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central 
Subject: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API 


Hello Again, 

I asked a question similar to this awhile back, David Sinclair answered some of 
my questions, but I'm still looking for a few features. 

Here is my use case. 

We are deploying Guvnor to an enterprise environment.   
We plan on having one Guvnor for our rule authors to create/edit rules in.   
We plan on using selectors to control which rules are included into packages 
that are built for different environments (development, test, production).   
We can't have our application that use rules pointing directly at the Guvnor 
instance. 
We want an automated deployment process. 

Here is what I was thinking. 

I would like to be able to invoke a build, using a specified selector, then 
create a snapshot that follows a specific naming convention (ie with the 
selector's name in the snapshot name), in sequence.  In order to do this, I 
would like to, from a remote application, tell Guvnor to do a build, then to do 
a snapshot.  So essentially what I'm asking for is a remoting API for Guvnor's 
features.  I've looked through some of the Guvnor code and I believe I see that 
there is a remote API for the drools-repository that Guvnor sits on, but what I 
need is specifically Guvnor's features to be made available in a remoting API. 

Does anyone know if such a thing exists?  If not is it planned? If not, am I 
even asking for a desirable feature?   

Thanks, 

Steve Ronderos 
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API

2009-08-04 Thread Sumant Kumar
I am also lookign for similar features(API) from Guvnor.

I am using Eclipse Drools Plugin. I want to build the rules on IDE and deploy 
the compiled rules package to Guvnor and want the Rules app to use the packages 
from Guvnor URL.

Also is there a way to make Guvnor use SVN instead of JCR?

thanks
Sumant




From: Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 11:42:33 AM
Subject: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API


Hello Again, 

I asked a question similar to this awhile
back, David Sinclair answered some of my questions, but I'm still looking
for a few features. 

Here is my use case. 

We are deploying Guvnor to an enterprise
environment.   
We plan on having one Guvnor for our
rule authors to create/edit rules in.   
We plan on using selectors to control
which rules are included into packages that are built for different environments
(development, test, production).   
We can't have our application that use
rules pointing directly at the Guvnor instance. 
We want an automated deployment
process. 

Here is what I was thinking. 

I would like to be able to invoke a
build, using a specified selector, then create a snapshot that follows
a specific naming convention (ie with the selector's name in the snapshot
name), in sequence.  In order to do this, I would like to, from a
remote application, tell Guvnor to do a build, then to do a snapshot.  So
essentially what I'm asking for is a remoting API for Guvnor's features.
 I've looked through some of the Guvnor code and I believe I see that
there is a remote API for the drools-repository that Guvnor sits on, but
what I need is specifically Guvnor's features to be made available in a
remoting API. 

Does anyone know if such a thing exists?
 If not is it planned? If not, am I even asking for a desirable feature?
  

Thanks, 

Steve Ronderos


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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API

2009-08-04 Thread Steve Ronderos
Michael,

That is really good news!  Due to the timeline my project is on, I think 
I'm going to have to implement some kind of workaround for now (I'm 
thinking a JSP that exposes the behavior I need in a REST-like way). I 
would however be very interested in helping with development as well as 
testing.

Let me know how I can help!

Thanks,

Steve Ronderos

rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org wrote on 08/04/2009 10:55:07 AM:

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 Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API
 
 Michael Rhoden 
 
 to:
 
 Rules Users List
 
 08/04/2009 10:57 AM
 
 Sent by:
 
 rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org
 
 Please respond to Rules Users List
 
 Michael Neale would know better on the progress, but we discussed 
 this exact feature back at Javaone a few months ago. My view is the 
 selectors are still experimental, but are very close to being able 
 to use. There have been talks about how to harden it up and do just 
 what you are asking for. I believe there is a REST api for guvnor as
 well as webdav, but I dont think they talk to the selectors yet, 
 though I could be wrong.
 
 Given this is a feature we want, and I know Michael Neale has agreed
 its a good idea and needed, what is your interest in Co-developing/
 Testing something like this with us?
 
 Michael Rhoden
 VP - IT Development
 Franklin American Mortgage Company
 Direct: 615-778-1117
 Fax: 615-778-2766
 Email: mrho...@franklinamerican.com 
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com
 To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
 Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 10:42:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
 Subject: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API
 
 
 Hello Again, 
 
 I asked a question similar to this awhile back, David Sinclair 
 answered some of my questions, but I'm still looking for a few features. 

 
 Here is my use case. 
 
 We are deploying Guvnor to an enterprise environment. 
 We plan on having one Guvnor for our rule authors to create/edit rules 
in. 
 We plan on using selectors to control which rules are included into 
 packages that are built for different environments (development, 
 test, production). 
 We can't have our application that use rules pointing directly at 
 the Guvnor instance. 
 We want an automated deployment process. 
 
 Here is what I was thinking. 
 
 I would like to be able to invoke a build, using a specified 
 selector, then create a snapshot that follows a specific naming 
 convention (ie with the selector's name in the snapshot name), in 
 sequence.  In order to do this, I would like to, from a remote 
 application, tell Guvnor to do a build, then to do a snapshot.  So 
 essentially what I'm asking for is a remoting API for Guvnor's 
 features.  I've looked through some of the Guvnor code and I believe
 I see that there is a remote API for the drools-repository that 
 Guvnor sits on, but what I need is specifically Guvnor's features to
 be made available in a remoting API. 
 
 Does anyone know if such a thing exists?  If not is it planned? If 
 not, am I even asking for a desirable feature? 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Steve Ronderos
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Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API

2009-08-04 Thread Premkumar Stephen
Michael  Steve,

We would need to be able to pick certain rules using selectors for different
runs too, and I will help you with testing efforts.

Regards,
Prem


2009/8/4 Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com


 Michael,

 That is really good news!  Due to the timeline my project is on, I think
 I'm going to have to implement some kind of workaround for now (I'm thinking
 a JSP that exposes the behavior I need in a REST-like way). I would however
 be very interested in helping with development as well as testing.

 Let me know how I can help!

 Thanks,

 Steve Ronderos

 rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org wrote on 08/04/2009 10:55:07 AM:

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  Re: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API
 
  Michael Rhoden
 
  to:
 
  Rules Users List
 
  08/04/2009 10:57 AM
 
  Sent by:
 
  rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org
 
  Please respond to Rules Users List
 
  Michael Neale would know better on the progress, but we discussed
  this exact feature back at Javaone a few months ago. My view is the
  selectors are still experimental, but are very close to being able
  to use. There have been talks about how to harden it up and do just
  what you are asking for. I believe there is a REST api for guvnor as
  well as webdav, but I dont think they talk to the selectors yet,
  though I could be wrong.
 
  Given this is a feature we want, and I know Michael Neale has agreed
  its a good idea and needed, what is your interest in Co-developing/
  Testing something like this with us?
 
  Michael Rhoden
  VP - IT Development
  Franklin American Mortgage Company
  Direct: 615-778-1117
  Fax: 615-778-2766
  Email: mrho...@franklinamerican.com
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Steve Ronderos steve.ronde...@ni.com
  To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
  Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 10:42:33 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
  Subject: [rules-users] Drools Guvnor Remoting API
 
 
  Hello Again,
 
  I asked a question similar to this awhile back, David Sinclair
  answered some of my questions, but I'm still looking for a few features.
 
  Here is my use case.
 
  We are deploying Guvnor to an enterprise environment.
  We plan on having one Guvnor for our rule authors to create/edit rules
 in.
  We plan on using selectors to control which rules are included into
  packages that are built for different environments (development,
  test, production).
  We can't have our application that use rules pointing directly at
  the Guvnor instance.
  We want an automated deployment process.
 
  Here is what I was thinking.
 
  I would like to be able to invoke a build, using a specified
  selector, then create a snapshot that follows a specific naming
  convention (ie with the selector's name in the snapshot name), in
  sequence.  In order to do this, I would like to, from a remote
  application, tell Guvnor to do a build, then to do a snapshot.  So
  essentially what I'm asking for is a remoting API for Guvnor's
  features.  I've looked through some of the Guvnor code and I believe
  I see that there is a remote API for the drools-repository that
  Guvnor sits on, but what I need is specifically Guvnor's features to
  be made available in a remoting API.
 
  Does anyone know if such a thing exists?  If not is it planned? If
  not, am I even asking for a desirable feature?
 
  Thanks,
 
  Steve Ronderos
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