[rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Team ! Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. Mark Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of reply. Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the help of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced many problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please provide me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The problem I am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in the book. I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is *salesValue-10 as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only integer. Thanks in Advance for all the help and material ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current (5.4) version of Drools and Guvnor. I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to select "New formula". With kind regards, Mike On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: > Hi Team ! > >Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. Mark > Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of reply. > >Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the help of > Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced many problems > to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the problem is the > *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener version*. *Its quite > different*. I request you all to please provide me the latest version of > PDF as I am unable to find on net. The problem I am facing is to put the > formula as given in the screen shot in the book. >I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS DROOLS > BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is *salesValue-10 > as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only > integer. > > Thanks in Advance for all the help and material > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
*Hi Mike !!* * * *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in THEN..* On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis wrote: > The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current (5.4) > version of Drools and Guvnor. > > I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather than > formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. > > When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to select > "New formula". > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> Hi Team ! >> >>Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. Mark >> Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of reply. >> >>Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the help >> of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced many >> problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the >> problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener version >> *. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please provide me the >> latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The problem I am >> facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in the book. >>I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS DROOLS >> BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is *salesValue-10 >> as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only >> integer. >> >> Thanks in Advance for all the help and material >> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- Best Regards, *Zeeshan Khan* *Liferay Java Developer* *IBEXI Solutions India* ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
I tested formula with 5.4 and it works as I defined. What version of Guvnor are you using? On 15 May 2012 13:34, zeeshan khan wrote: > *Hi Mike !!* > * > * > *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in THEN..* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis > wrote: > >> The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current (5.4) >> version of Drools and Guvnor. >> >> I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather >> than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. >> >> When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to select >> "New formula". >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: >> >>> Hi Team ! >>> >>>Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. Mark >>> Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of reply. >>> >>>Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the help >>> of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced many >>> problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the >>> problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener >>> version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please provide >>> me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The problem I >>> am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in the book. >>>I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS >>> DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is >>> *salesValue-10 >>> as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only >>> integer. >>> >>> Thanks in Advance for all the help and material >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > > -- > > > Best Regards, > > *Zeeshan Khan* > *Liferay Java Developer* > *IBEXI Solutions India* > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
*Hi Mike !!* * * *I am using 5.4 versionplease have a look to the screen shots attached.* the rounded box in the screenshot takes only numbers in the case of THENbut working fine in WHEN... so i tried by using *ADD FROM FREE DRL*(in the box 2), and this was working fine... thanks !! On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Michael Anstis wrote: > I tested formula with 5.4 and it works as I defined. > > What version of Guvnor are you using? > > > On 15 May 2012 13:34, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> *Hi Mike !!* >> * >> * >> *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in THEN..* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis > > wrote: >> >>> The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current >>> (5.4) version of Drools and Guvnor. >>> >>> I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather >>> than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. >>> >>> When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to select >>> "New formula". >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: >>> Hi Team ! Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. Mark Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of reply. Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the help of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced many problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please provide me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The problem I am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in the book. I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is *salesValue-10 as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only integer. Thanks in Advance for all the help and material ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> *Zeeshan Khan* >> *Liferay Java Developer* >> *IBEXI Solutions India* >> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- Best Regards, *Zeeshan Khan* *Liferay Java Developer* *IBEXI Solutions India* ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Congratulations :) You win the prize for finding (possibly) the first bug in 5.4. Using free-format DRL is, as you've found, a work-around. Can you please raise a bug at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR and I'll fix as soon as possible. With kind regards, Mike On 15 May 2012 13:51, zeeshan khan wrote: > > *sorry forgot to attach the fileplease find it again...* > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> *Hi Mike !!* >> * >> * >> *I am using 5.4 versionplease have a look to the screen shots >> attached.* >> >> the rounded box in the screenshot takes only numbers in the case of >> THENbut working fine in WHEN... >> so i tried by using *ADD FROM FREE DRL*(in the box 2), and this was >> working fine... >> >> thanks !! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Michael Anstis > > wrote: >> >>> I tested formula with 5.4 and it works as I defined. >>> >>> What version of Guvnor are you using? >>> >>> >>> On 15 May 2012 13:34, zeeshan khan wrote: >>> *Hi Mike !!* * * *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in THEN..* On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis < michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: > The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current > (5.4) version of Drools and Guvnor. > > I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather > than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. > > When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to > select "New formula". > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> Hi Team ! >> >>Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. >> Mark Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of >> reply. >> >>Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the >> help of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced >> many problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the >> problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener >> version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please >> provide me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The >> problem I am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in >> the book. >>I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS >> DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is >> *salesValue-10 >> as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only >> integer. >> >> Thanks in Advance for all the help and material >> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- Best Regards, *Zeeshan Khan* *Liferay Java Developer* *IBEXI Solutions India* ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> *Zeeshan Khan* >> *Liferay Java Developer* >> *IBEXI Solutions India* >> >> > > > -- > > > Best Regards, > > *Zeeshan Khan* > *Liferay Java Developer* > *IBEXI Solutions India* > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
*wo Mike.I can't believe it.its been only two days I have started digging around Drools and found a bugIt would be great if I can help this community in any ways... by the way MikeI am desperately waiting for my prize ;-)* On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Michael Anstis wrote: > Congratulations :) > > You win the prize for finding (possibly) the first bug in 5.4. Using > free-format DRL is, as you've found, a work-around. > > Can you please raise a bug at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR and > I'll fix as soon as possible. > > With kind regards, > > Mike > > > On 15 May 2012 13:51, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> >> *sorry forgot to attach the fileplease find it again...* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM, zeeshan khan >> wrote: >> >>> *Hi Mike !!* >>> * >>> * >>> *I am using 5.4 versionplease have a look to the screen shots >>> attached.* >>> >>> the rounded box in the screenshot takes only numbers in the case of >>> THENbut working fine in WHEN... >>> so i tried by using *ADD FROM FREE DRL*(in the box 2), and this was >>> working fine... >>> >>> thanks !! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Michael Anstis < >>> michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I tested formula with 5.4 and it works as I defined. What version of Guvnor are you using? On 15 May 2012 13:34, zeeshan khan wrote: > *Hi Mike !!* > * > * > *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in > THEN..* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis < > michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current >> (5.4) version of Drools and Guvnor. >> >> I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather >> than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. >> >> When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to >> select "New formula". >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: >> >>> Hi Team ! >>> >>>Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. >>> Mark Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of >>> reply. >>> >>>Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the >>> help of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced >>> many problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But >>> the >>> problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener >>> version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please >>> provide me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The >>> problem I am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in >>> the book. >>>I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS >>> DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is >>> *salesValue-10 >>> as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only >>> integer. >>> >>> Thanks in Advance for all the help and material >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > > -- > > > Best Regards, > > *Zeeshan Khan* > *Liferay Java Developer* > *IBEXI Solutions India* > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> >>> *Zeeshan Khan* >>> *Liferay Java Developer* >>> *IBEXI Solutions India* >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> *Zeeshan Khan* >> *Liferay Java Developer* >> *IBEXI Solutions India* >> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- Best Regards, *Zeeshan Khan* *Liferay Java Developer* *IBEXI Solutions India* ___
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
*wo Mike.I can't believe it.its been only two days I have started digging around Drools and found a bugIt would be great if I can help this community in any ways... by the way MikeI am desperately waiting for my prize ;-)* *On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Michael Anstis wrote: * > > *Congratulations :) > > You win the prize for finding (possibly) the first bug in 5.4. Using > free-format DRL is, as you've found, a work-around. > > Can you please raise a bug at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR and > I'll fix as soon as possible. > > With kind regards, > > Mike* > > > On 15 May 2012 13:51, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> >> *sorry forgot to attach the fileplease find it again...* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM, zeeshan khan >> wrote: >> >>> *Hi Mike !!* >>> * >>> * >>> *I am using 5.4 versionplease have a look to the screen shots >>> attached.* >>> >>> the rounded box in the screenshot takes only numbers in the case of >>> THENbut working fine in WHEN... >>> so i tried by using *ADD FROM FREE DRL*(in the box 2), and this was >>> working fine... >>> >>> thanks !! >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Michael Anstis < >>> michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> I tested formula with 5.4 and it works as I defined. What version of Guvnor are you using? On 15 May 2012 13:34, zeeshan khan wrote: > *Hi Mike !!* > * > * > *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in > THEN..* > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis < > michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current >> (5.4) version of Drools and Guvnor. >> >> I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal rather >> than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. >> >> When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to >> select "New formula". >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Mike >> >> On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: >> >>> Hi Team ! >>> >>>Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. >>> Mark Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of >>> reply. >>> >>>Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the >>> help of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced >>> many problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But >>> the >>> problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener >>> version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please >>> provide me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The >>> problem I am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in >>> the book. >>>I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS >>> DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is >>> *salesValue-10 >>> as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only >>> integer. >>> >>> Thanks in Advance for all the help and material >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > > -- > > > Best Regards, > > *Zeeshan Khan* > *Liferay Java Developer* > *IBEXI Solutions India* > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- Best Regards, *Zeeshan Khan* *Liferay Java Developer* *IBEXI Solutions India* ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
HI Mike, I am working with zeeshan on same project since last week and face problem in formula generation in *Then* section of a rule. We are targeting guvnor as user friendly tool with minimum coding and quick development of complex rules. But with missing formula section in *Then* we are getting dependent on coding using *free form Drl*.We raised issue as instructed by you on *Jira*. I am sending you link Kindly address this issue soon as possible . https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR-1897 Thnks!! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996120.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Thanks for raising the JIRA. It is now fixed (for 5.5.0.beta1). For 5.4, you may have seen from the release notes, I made the "value editors" for different data-types more robust - only permitting entry of valid values. It is very unfortunate I missed "formula" on the "THEN" part, that as you noticed, was defaulting to a TextBox for a literal value (i.e. just a numeric, in your case). 5.3 did not have this problem (and might present features closer to those in the book you are reading). With kind regards, Mike On 16 May 2012 07:08, ashwindrool wrote: > HI Mike, > > I am working with zeeshan on same project since last week and face problem > in formula generation in *Then* section of a rule. We are targeting guvnor > as user friendly tool with minimum coding and quick development of complex > rules. But with missing formula section in *Then* we are getting dependent > on coding using *free form Drl*.We raised issue as instructed by you on > *Jira*. I am sending you link Kindly address this issue soon as possible . > > > https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR-1897 > > > Thnks!! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996120.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Finding bugs always helps the community at large :) As for your prize, rest in comfort knowing that whenever I see your name I will curse ;) If you'd like to get more involved with developing Guvnor, read the "Getting involved" part of the user-guide (I forget exactly where it is) and come to one of the IRC channels :) With kind regards, Mike On 16 May 2012 05:56, zeeshan khan wrote: > > > > *wo Mike.I can't believe it.its been only two days I > have started digging around Drools and found a bugIt would be great if > I can help this community in any ways... by the way MikeI am > desperately waiting for my prize ;-)* > > > > > > > > > *On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:38 PM, Michael Anstis > wrote: > * >> >> *Congratulations :) >> >> You win the prize for finding (possibly) the first bug in 5.4. Using >> free-format DRL is, as you've found, a work-around. >> >> Can you please raise a bug at https://issues.jboss.org/browse/GUVNOR and >> I'll fix as soon as possible. >> >> With kind regards, >> >> Mike* >> >> >> On 15 May 2012 13:51, zeeshan khan wrote: >> >>> >>> *sorry forgot to attach the fileplease find it again...* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:19 PM, zeeshan khan >>> wrote: >>> *Hi Mike !!* * * *I am using 5.4 versionplease have a look to the screen shots attached.* the rounded box in the screenshot takes only numbers in the case of THENbut working fine in WHEN... so i tried by using *ADD FROM FREE DRL*(in the box 2), and this was working fine... thanks !! On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Michael Anstis < michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: > I tested formula with 5.4 and it works as I defined. > > What version of Guvnor are you using? > > > On 15 May 2012 13:34, zeeshan khan wrote: > >> *Hi Mike !!* >> * >> * >> *Thanks for the reply.its working fine in WHEN but not in >> THEN..* >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Michael Anstis < >> michael.ans...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The book, as Mark also said, is out of date compared to the current >>> (5.4) version of Drools and Guvnor. >>> >>> I suspect you've elected to set the field's value to a literal >>> rather than formula. Please try deleting the constraint and adding back. >>> >>> When clicking on the pencil icon next to the operator be sure to >>> select "New formula". >>> >>> With kind regards, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> On 15 May 2012 12:27, zeeshan khan wrote: >>> Hi Team ! Earlier I sent this mail to rules-...@lists.jboss.org. Mark Proctor asked me to mail here so I am mailing here in the hope of reply. Since yesterday only I started learning Drools with the help of Google and *JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file*. I faced many problems to understand the concept but now its going smooth. But the problem is the *version of PDF file of the book* and the *Govener version*. *Its quite different*. I request you all to please provide me the latest version of PDF as I am unable to find on net. The problem I am facing is to put the formula as given in the screen shot in the book. I am unable to put the *formula* as described in JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES pdf file on page no. 102.the formula is *salesValue-10 as the box is not capable of taking cahracters. *It is taking only integer. Thanks in Advance for all the help and material ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing list >>> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >>> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> *Zeeshan Khan* >> *Liferay Java Developer* >> *IBEXI Solutions India* >> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> >> > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > -- >>> >>> ___ >>> rules-users mailing li
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hahahahahaha ;-) and thanks Mike for the fix.so now I need to use *5.5.0.beta1*..?? Currently I am using *guvnor-5.4.0.CR1-tomcat-6.0* WAR file then imported it in Eclipse IDE, opened the browser and found the Guvnor Drools GUI and after that followed JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES(old version I asked u earlier about this and if u can provide me the latest version) file to create rules and fact models. This is the process I followed. Am I following the right way...?? Can u please give me the Link of the fixed release?? Also if u can provide me the latest version of JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES Thanks Mike !! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996729.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Mike I am working along with Zeeshan and Aswin. I hav started exploring drools a month back n finished 3 products one using the .drl rule and two using decision table. They have joined while exploring guvner just 2 days back n we have raised that bug. But nw we have a new requirement , for which i posted under *"How to control the order of rule execution"*. I am also started explorin jBPM since the rule flow file which I uploaded is nt able to open in guvnor. Pz suggest us a way hw to proceed for the same in drools. Sangram Java Developer, India -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996746.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
You can get the latest, bleeding edge, release from our Continuous Integration server:- https://hudson.jboss.org/hudson/job/guvnor/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/guvnor-distribution/target/ Make sure you pick a build that has the fix in it! You can also download the source and build from that, it's not too difficult (there is a README in Guvnor's root explaining how). With kind regards, Mike On 16 May 2012 10:20, zeeshan wrote: > Hahahahahaha ;-) and thanks Mike for the fix.so now I need to use > *5.5.0.beta1*..?? > Currently I am using *guvnor-5.4.0.CR1-tomcat-6.0* WAR file then imported > it > in Eclipse IDE, opened the browser and found the Guvnor Drools GUI and > after > that followed JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES(old version I asked u earlier > about this and if u can provide me the latest version) file to create rules > and fact models. This is the process I followed. Am I following the right > way...?? Can u please give me the Link of the fixed release?? Also > if > u can provide me the latest version of JBOSS DROOLS BUSINESS RULES > > > Thanks Mike !! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996729.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
In an ideal world you should not normally need to think about sequencing the order of rule execution. I suspect you are thinking "procedurally". The "WHEN" part of a rule is evaluated as Facts are inserted into Working Memory. This causes Activations for the "THEN" part to appear on an Agenda (schedule). When you call "fireAllRules" the Activations on the Agenda are executed. If an Activation causes a change to the Facts is Working Memory rules' "WHEN" parts are re-evaluated and either new Activations added to the Agenda (e.g. if you modify an existing Fact, insert a new one etc), or possibly other existing Activations removed (e.g. if you retract a Fact or a change causes a previous match to no-longer be valid). There is a nice flow-chart in the Drools Expert documentation explaining this and Truth Maintenance. Production Rule Systems are meant to be used such that you place all your Knowledge (Facts) into its Working Memory and after a bit of churning your results appear :) If however you really need to order the execution of the Activations you can use Salience, Agenda Groups or a Process Flow (and possibly others, I forget). jBPM is now the de-facto Process Engine integrating with Drools. Rule Flow was jBPM's predecessor and AFAIK should be considered deprecated. There are others much more qualified on this forum to suggest best practice and the comment on the pit-falls of trying to sequence rules' execution. Hopefully they can also give you some advice. With kind regards, Mike On 16 May 2012 10:27, San wrote: > Hi Mike > > I am working along with Zeeshan and Aswin. I hav started exploring drools a > month back n finished 3 products one using the .drl rule and two using > decision table. They have joined while exploring guvner just 2 days back n > we have raised that bug. > > But nw we have a new requirement , for which i posted under *"How to > control > the order of rule execution"*. > > I am also started explorin jBPM since the rule flow file which I uploaded > is > nt able to open in guvnor. > > Pz suggest us a way hw to proceed for the same in drools. > > > Sangram > Java Developer, India > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996746.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Thanks very much Mike !! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996773.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
BTW, I forgot to mention. I suspect the book is copyrighted and I therefore the PDF is an eBook. It shouldn't really be shared, as it's probably licensed to someone. As Mark said, there isn't a newer version available. With kind regards, Mike On 16 May 2012 10:51, zeeshan wrote: > Thanks very much Mike !! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996773.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Mike !! Actually I was asking from where I can purchase updated version of this book. Can u provide any link from where I can buy online??? Or is there any updated user guide for this from where I can learn Drools deeply...?? Thanks !! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996804.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
I'd recommend Drools Expert 5.4.0's user guide. I always found it informative. Guvnor's user-guide has improved vastly over the past few releases, but it won't win any literacy prizes. http://www.jboss.org/drools/documentation has links to the existing book list. The Cookbook is the most recent and has good reviews, but I don't think it's a beginners guide. Perhaps, once you've learned more you can author an updated version of the book :) Or, if you want to get involved, helping improve Guvnor's documentation would be a good entry point. With kind regards, Mike On 16 May 2012 11:22, zeeshan wrote: > Hi Mike !! > > Actually I was asking from where I can purchase updated version of this > book. Can u provide any link from where I can buy online??? Or is > there > any updated user guide for this from where I can learn Drools deeply...?? > > Thanks !! > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996804.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Mike !! I have downloaded almost all the files and now going through one by onewill let u know if get stuck in problem... Thanks ! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p3996861.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Mike !! I downloaded the *5.4 final version* and imported in Eclipse. I am still facing the same problem as in 5.4 CR1 i.e. unable to put characters in Formula of THEN section.I also tried with *5.5.0 SNAPSHOT*.same problemactually I want to put this formula in THEN section > * deathBenefit=sumAssured * [(1 - 1/(1 + (interestRate/100)^(policyTerm-policyYear+1) / 1 - 1/(1 + (interestRate/100)^(policyTerm) ]* (quite complex ) Is this possible to put this formula in Guvnor Formula box...?? I should go with the work around using free form DRL in THEN section?? Thanks ! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4008688.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Mike ! Its working on 5.4.0 Beta1 thanks ! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4013151.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
It should be working in 5.5.0.beta1. 5.4.0.Final is what we released. I would not recommend using 5.4.0.beta1 as it is pre-release and some of it's internals could have changed for 5.4.0.Final (and later). Consequentially, and I believer other community members have been caught out this way, there is a risk something you author in 5.4.0.beta1 cannot be opened in 5.5. With kind regards, Mike On 24 May 2012 09:59, zeeshan wrote: > Hi Mike ! > > Its working on 5.4.0 Beta1 > thanks ! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4013151.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
I am using guvnor-5.5.0-SNAPSHOT-tomcat-6.0 and have the same issue. Any insights? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4017819.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
This is the commit that fixes is: https://github.com/droolsjbpm/guvnor/commit/eed225c10df8b95404f801f1af7c353299b9ae6e I am downloading the SNAPSHOT from https://hudson.jboss.org/jenkins/job/guvnor/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/and will try. I can confirm (again) that it works as expected using the master branch source code. We are talking about adding a formula in the THEN part of a rule? On 8 June 2012 18:18, amritajain wrote: > I am using guvnor-5.5.0-SNAPSHOT-tomcat-6.0 > and have the same issue. > Any insights? > Thanks. > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4017819.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Download complete. Deployed guvnor-5.5.0-SNAPSHOT-tomcat-6.0.war to Tomcat 6.0.30. Ran. Works OK. Am I missing something? On 8 June 2012 20:54, Michael Anstis wrote: > This is the commit that fixes is: > > > https://github.com/droolsjbpm/guvnor/commit/eed225c10df8b95404f801f1af7c353299b9ae6e > > I am downloading the SNAPSHOT from > https://hudson.jboss.org/jenkins/job/guvnor/lastSuccessfulBuild/artifact/and > will try. > > I can confirm (again) that it works as expected using the master branch > source code. > > We are talking about adding a formula in the THEN part of a rule? > > > On 8 June 2012 18:18, amritajain wrote: > >> I am using guvnor-5.5.0-SNAPSHOT-tomcat-6.0 >> and have the same issue. >> Any insights? >> Thanks. >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4017819.html >> Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users >> > > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Hi Mike ! Will it be OK to go with *5.5.0-SNAPSHOT*.?? Is formula part in 5.5.0-SNAPSHOT of THEN working..?? Thanks ! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4017829.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
As far as I am concerned, yes. Use the URL I included in my previous email. sent on the move On 9 Jun 2012 06:04, "zeeshan" wrote: > Hi Mike ! > > Will it be OK to go with *5.5.0-SNAPSHOT*.?? Is formula part in > 5.5.0-SNAPSHOT of THEN working..?? > > > Thanks ! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4017829.html > Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] can't put formula on Guvnor screen
Thanks Mike ! -- View this message in context: http://drools.46999.n3.nabble.com/rules-users-can-t-put-formula-on-Guvnor-screen-tp3987830p4017832.html Sent from the Drools: User forum mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
