Re: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
The traffic on this list is quite substantial. Note that it is used if
people run
into a problem, not when they solve one. Judging Drools' industry usage from
the traffic here is akin to saying that fine weather is tied to the Moon
being
full, which you don't see when it is new nor when the sky is overcast... ;-)
-W
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 3:28 PM, wrote:
> Are people actually using Drools Or Drools Flow in production?
>
> The traffic on this list seems way too low to suggest any serious industry
> consideration.
>
> OTOH, there are books out there for Drools. Which does suggest serious
> usage.
>
> What am I missing?
>
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Re: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
Ajay, I don't know what kind of relationship you draw from list traffic to serious adoption. In any case, do some research and you will certainly re-evaluate your metrics. :) Just as a starting point, last week we had the Drools Bootcamp in SF ( http://blog.athico.com/2009/03/drools-boot-camp-san-francisco-june.html), and that is one of the reasons for the reduced traffic in the last couple weeks I guess. Take a look at the attendance list and the companies they come from: http://www.jboss.org/community/wiki/DroolsBootCampSanFranciscoJune2009 Sightings page: http://www.jboss.org/drools/sightings.html Anyway, what I can tell you is that Drools is in really active and constant development, with a growing and energizing community that supports its members in the best possible open source way (thank you all people). On top of that, if you want professional support with SLAs, talk to Red Hat that offers all kind of services around the product (from support to training). Cheers, Edson 2009/6/12 > Are people actually using Drools Or Drools Flow in production? > > The traffic on this list seems way too low to suggest any serious industry > consideration. > > OTOH, there are books out there for Drools. Which does suggest serious > usage. > > What am I missing? > > Ajay Gautam > *Please note that my email address may have changed. For all > future correspondence, please use this address* > -- Edson Tirelli JBoss Drools Core Development JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
Hello,
For the last 3 years, i have done 5 projects in production with drools 4.0.7
as I started that business in my company
And we have currently 5 project that will start this year with brms
In my company, i do a drools training starting end of month and 5 more times
in september and october.
I answer (we are 8000 in France) with drools 5 or 6 times a month without
people trained. Wait one or two years and ilog/ibm will be wipped out !
It is a clear serious Industry tool
One of our customer is using it in a loyalty system in shops (supermarket
from 10 to 140 cash machines). Per day on the biggest shop thery are over
3 custumer/day => 0 bug
Another customer is using it for collection calculation and buget
consideration => millions of € calculation for one year => 700 shop customer
that is counting on drools to prepare the product collection
and we have other
yes it works and fine
regads
Nicolas Heron
PS : did you go on the irc channel ? you should !
2009/6/12
> Are people actually using Drools Or Drools Flow in production?
>
> The traffic on this list seems way too low to suggest any serious industry
> consideration.
>
> OTOH, there are books out there for Drools. Which does suggest serious
> usage.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Ajay Gautam
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Re: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
We have been using Drools since version 2, and currently have well over 10,000
rules in production. It is a very solid product that can be used anywhere an
Ilog etc would be considered. Drools Flow is a bit new, although I know there
are several companies who have it in production. We are currently testing it
internally, and it shows huge promise.
-Michael
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From: "Ajay Gautam"
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Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 8:28:26 AM GMT -06:00 US/Canada Central
Subject: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
Are people actually using Drools Or Drools Flow in production?
The traffic on this list seems way too low to suggest any serious industry
consideration.
OTOH, there are books out there for Drools. Which does suggest serious usage.
What am I missing?
Ajay Gautam
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Re: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
I have built 2 systems for *very* large and well know companies that rely
heavily on drools.
On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 9:32 AM, Hehl, Thomas wrote:
> We are using drools in our production software for decision support. We
> mostly like the decision tables and how easy it is for me to allow a
> user to modify the rules for a particular installation without me having
> to write code.
>
> We are, in fact, continuing to expand our usage of drools for new facets
> of our application where the business rules are extremely complicated
> and vary widely by implementation.
>
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> ajay.gau...@rbs.com
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> To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
> Subject: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
>
> Are people actually using Drools Or Drools Flow in production?
>
> The traffic on this list seems way too low to suggest any serious
> industry consideration.
>
> OTOH, there are books out there for Drools. Which does suggest serious
> usage.
>
> What am I missing?
>
> Ajay Gautam
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RE: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
We are using drools in our production software for decision support. We
mostly like the decision tables and how easy it is for me to allow a
user to modify the rules for a particular installation without me having
to write code.
We are, in fact, continuing to expand our usage of drools for new facets
of our application where the business rules are extremely complicated
and vary widely by implementation.
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From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org
[mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of
ajay.gau...@rbs.com
Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 9:28 AM
To: rules-users@lists.jboss.org
Subject: [rules-users] Drools in the real world
Are people actually using Drools Or Drools Flow in production?
The traffic on this list seems way too low to suggest any serious
industry consideration.
OTOH, there are books out there for Drools. Which does suggest serious
usage.
What am I missing?
Ajay Gautam
*Please note that my email address may have changed. For all
future correspondence, please use this address*
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