RE: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging
Perfect! B.T.W. I realized I can debug if I have drools sources and add a breakpoint at a strategic spot... Thanks -Original Message- From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Ingomar Otter Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:47 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging Yes, check this out: http://blog.athico.com/2008/02/looking-under-drools-skirt.html Am 08.06.2009 um 18:34 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: > Is it possible to see the generated Java code for the rules? > > -Original Message- > From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org > [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org > ] On Behalf Of Ingomar Otter > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:00 PM > To: Rules Users List > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging > > >> - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules > in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) > You are missing something. :-) That's possible. > > However we have found regular debuggers "not to helpful". > Have a look at the WorkingMemoryLoggers, they can give you a detailed > insight of what's going on inside Drools, ie. > * Facts inserted, changed, retracted > * Activations > * Rules fired > > 4.0.7: > http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/4.0.7.19894.GA/apidocs/org/drools/audit/WorkingMemoryFileLogger.html > (The Drools Eclipse Plugin can be used to view these logs). > > To be useful, this requires a usable toString, we have created those > using apache commmons-lang. > > Happy hunting! > > -- Ingomar > > > > Am 08.06.2009 um 17:46 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: > >> Hi, >> >> >> >> Can some of your share your technique for debugging/troubleshooting >> rules: >> >> >> >> Here is the situation: >> >> >> >> - I have a web application that uses rules at specific >> points. >> >> - I use templates and decision tables so the actual rules >> are compiled by my application using a spread sheet compiler. >> >> - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules >> in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) >> >> >> >> I must not be the only one asking this question but I cannot find >> answers in the archives. >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> André Malenfant >> >> >> >> ___ >> rules-users mailing list >> rules-users@lists.jboss.org >> https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging
Yes, check the PackageBuilderConfiguration class for the method setDumpDir(). Please note that drools generates and compile files in memory, so after you stop debugging, remember to turn this option off again to not consume unnecessary IO time. Also, the java code is usually not much helpful. Best to use the loggers as suggested by Ingomar. []s Edson 2009/6/8 Malenfant, Andre > Is it possible to see the generated Java code for the rules? > > -Original Message- > From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto: > rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Ingomar Otter > Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:00 PM > To: Rules Users List > Subject: Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging > > > >- Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules > in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) > You are missing something. :-) That's possible. > > However we have found regular debuggers "not to helpful". > Have a look at the WorkingMemoryLoggers, they can give you a detailed > insight of what's going on inside Drools, ie. > * Facts inserted, changed, retracted > * Activations > * Rules fired > > 4.0.7: > http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/4.0.7.19894.GA/apidocs/org/drools/audit/WorkingMemoryFileLogger.html > (The Drools Eclipse Plugin can be used to view these logs). > > To be useful, this requires a usable toString, we have created those > using apache commmons-lang. > > Happy hunting! > > -- Ingomar > > > > Am 08.06.2009 um 17:46 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: > > > Hi, > > > > > > > > Can some of your share your technique for debugging/troubleshooting > > rules: > > > > > > > > Here is the situation: > > > > > > > > - I have a web application that uses rules at specific > > points. > > > > - I use templates and decision tables so the actual rules > > are compiled by my application using a spread sheet compiler. > > > > - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules > > in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) > > > > > > > > I must not be the only one asking this question but I cannot find > > answers in the archives. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > André Malenfant > > > > > > > > ___ > > rules-users mailing list > > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users > -- Edson Tirelli JBoss Drools Core Development JBoss, a division of Red Hat @ www.jboss.com ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging
Yes, check this out: http://blog.athico.com/2008/02/looking-under-drools-skirt.html Am 08.06.2009 um 18:34 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: Is it possible to see the generated Java code for the rules? -Original Message- From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org ] On Behalf Of Ingomar Otter Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:00 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) You are missing something. :-) That's possible. However we have found regular debuggers "not to helpful". Have a look at the WorkingMemoryLoggers, they can give you a detailed insight of what's going on inside Drools, ie. * Facts inserted, changed, retracted * Activations * Rules fired 4.0.7: http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/4.0.7.19894.GA/apidocs/org/drools/audit/WorkingMemoryFileLogger.html (The Drools Eclipse Plugin can be used to view these logs). To be useful, this requires a usable toString, we have created those using apache commmons-lang. Happy hunting! -- Ingomar Am 08.06.2009 um 17:46 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: Hi, Can some of your share your technique for debugging/troubleshooting rules: Here is the situation: - I have a web application that uses rules at specific points. - I use templates and decision tables so the actual rules are compiled by my application using a spread sheet compiler. - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) I must not be the only one asking this question but I cannot find answers in the archives. Thanks, André Malenfant ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
RE: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging
Is it possible to see the generated Java code for the rules? -Original Message- From: rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org [mailto:rules-users-boun...@lists.jboss.org] On Behalf Of Ingomar Otter Sent: Monday, June 08, 2009 12:00 PM To: Rules Users List Subject: Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging >- Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) You are missing something. :-) That's possible. However we have found regular debuggers "not to helpful". Have a look at the WorkingMemoryLoggers, they can give you a detailed insight of what's going on inside Drools, ie. * Facts inserted, changed, retracted * Activations * Rules fired 4.0.7: http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/4.0.7.19894.GA/apidocs/org/drools/audit/WorkingMemoryFileLogger.html (The Drools Eclipse Plugin can be used to view these logs). To be useful, this requires a usable toString, we have created those using apache commmons-lang. Happy hunting! -- Ingomar Am 08.06.2009 um 17:46 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: > Hi, > > > > Can some of your share your technique for debugging/troubleshooting > rules: > > > > Here is the situation: > > > > - I have a web application that uses rules at specific > points. > > - I use templates and decision tables so the actual rules > are compiled by my application using a spread sheet compiler. > > - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules > in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) > > > > I must not be the only one asking this question but I cannot find > answers in the archives. > > > > Thanks, > > > > André Malenfant > > > > ___ > rules-users mailing list > rules-users@lists.jboss.org > https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Templates / Generated rules debugging
>- Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) You are missing something. :-) That's possible. However we have found regular debuggers "not to helpful". Have a look at the WorkingMemoryLoggers, they can give you a detailed insight of what's going on inside Drools, ie. * Facts inserted, changed, retracted * Activations * Rules fired 4.0.7: http://downloads.jboss.com/drools/docs/4.0.7.19894.GA/apidocs/org/drools/audit/WorkingMemoryFileLogger.html (The Drools Eclipse Plugin can be used to view these logs). To be useful, this requires a usable toString, we have created those using apache commmons-lang. Happy hunting! -- Ingomar Am 08.06.2009 um 17:46 schrieb Malenfant, Andre: Hi, Can some of your share your technique for debugging/troubleshooting rules: Here is the situation: - I have a web application that uses rules at specific points. - I use templates and decision tables so the actual rules are compiled by my application using a spread sheet compiler. - Since this is a web application, I cannot debug the rules in Eclipse (unless I am missing something) I must not be the only one asking this question but I cannot find answers in the archives. Thanks, André Malenfant ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
