Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) - Mail original - De: Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com À: Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org Envoyé: Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 Objet: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) -- *De: *Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
Should use a DSL then. - Mail original - De: Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com À: Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org Envoyé: Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 19:06:57 Objet: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) - Mail original - De: Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com À: Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org Envoyé: Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 Objet: Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: blockquote It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users /blockquote blockquote ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users /blockquote ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
Can DSL be presented as the decision table as well? Any examples if yes? Thanks. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: Should use a DSL then. -- *De: *Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 19:06:57 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) -- *De: *Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
Yes, if you use 5.4 - this supports BRL fragments as columns. Rule Templates also support DSLs. HOWEVER - and this is probably an issue - DSLs in Guvnor currently only support literal values. So if you use a DSL in either a Decision Table or Rule Template you cannot specify different values in the table for the DSL place-holder. On 26 April 2012 19:21, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: Can DSL be presented as the decision table as well? Any examples if yes? Thanks. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: Should use a DSL then. -- *De: *Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 19:06:57 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) -- *De: *Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
Any time frame for the final release? I played with CR1 and it does not seem stable. Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, if you use 5.4 - this supports BRL fragments as columns. Rule Templates also support DSLs. HOWEVER - and this is probably an issue - DSLs in Guvnor currently only support literal values. So if you use a DSL in either a Decision Table or Rule Template you cannot specify different values in the table for the DSL place-holder. On 26 April 2012 19:21, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: Can DSL be presented as the decision table as well? Any examples if yes? Thanks. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: Should use a DSL then. -- *De: *Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 19:06:57 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) -- *De: *Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor
Mark Proctor has mentioned it being within the next couple of weeks, so I'd assume before June. sent on the move On 26 Apr 2012 20:00, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: Any time frame for the final release? I played with CR1 and it does not seem stable. Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 2:28 PM, Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, if you use 5.4 - this supports BRL fragments as columns. Rule Templates also support DSLs. HOWEVER - and this is probably an issue - DSLs in Guvnor currently only support literal values. So if you use a DSL in either a Decision Table or Rule Template you cannot specify different values in the table for the DSL place-holder. On 26 April 2012 19:21, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: Can DSL be presented as the decision table as well? Any examples if yes? Thanks. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 1:14 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: Should use a DSL then. -- *De: *Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 19:06:57 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor What I am prototyping is part of the event processing (with or without fusion). I want to use the rules created by the Guvnor to create the new events. However, as you would understand, once the event has been created, it should not be modified as it happened in the past. So I am trying to avoid setters if possible. Sean Sent from my iPad On Apr 26, 2012, at 12:49 PM, Vincent LEGENDRE vincent.legen...@eurodecision.com wrote: JavaBeans convention : all default constructible and plenty of setters (for writeable properties) and getters (for readeable properties) -- *De: *Michael Anstis michael.ans...@gmail.com *À: *Rules Users List rules-users@lists.jboss.org *Envoyé: *Jeudi 26 Avril 2012 15:40:27 *Objet: *Re: [rules-users] Guvnor guided editor and non argument constructor Seems reasonable enough. On 26 April 2012 14:36, Sean Su sean.x...@gmail.com wrote: It seems that the new fact created by the guided editor must be from the java class that has the default non argument constructor in Guvnor. There seems no way we can customize it to pass arguments in. This would force us to provide setters to the object. Is this a true statement? Thanks Sean Sent from my iPad ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users ___ rules-users mailing list rules-users@lists.jboss.org https://lists.jboss.org/mailman/listinfo/rules-users
