[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-27 Thread Andrew Mathas
I've only just seen this but it seems that I am the culprit as I was the 
one who modified #9265. Sorry!

Nicolas, thanks for fixing the problem for me.

Andrew

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[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Hugh Thomas

Thanks, Nicolas -- the queue is now applying properly for me (on 
5.4.beta1).  

cheers,

Hugh

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[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 01:45:35PM +0200, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 07:51:10PM -0700, Hugh Thomas wrote:
> >I just tried to install the combinat queue on 5.4.beta1, and got rejects
> >on tableaux-combinatorics-am.patch.  I think the issue is that 5.4.beta1
> >(and 5.4.beta0) have trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am merged, but not the
> >most recent version of it. 
> > 
> >Since this patch is pretty near the end of the queue, for my purposes I
> >can ignore the problem, but I thought I should report the issue.
> 
> Ouch. Thanks for the report, I'll look into this.

Fixed!

(by reconstructing a small patch containing the difference between
trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am.patch as merged in 5.4.beta0 and the
final version of this patch).

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Jeroen!

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 04:42:23PM +0200, Jeroen Demeyer wrote:
> Short story: for me it was far more important *that* the problem got
> fixed, not *how* it got fixed.
> 
> A situation where a ticket is merged but then problems are discovered is
> a difficult situation to handle.  In the past, I would have re-opened
> the ticket and set it to needs_work but that seems to upset people (they
> think it will postpone the merging of their patch).  So this time, I
> decided not to reopen the ticket but my intention was indeed for the
> chances to be made on the same ticket.  However, ideally it would have
> been done in a separate additional patch, leaving the original
> already-merged patch alone.  But I certainly would have been happy also
> with a new ticket.
> 
> I have no idea how any of this affect sage-combinat.

Thanks for the clarification!

Thinking twice about it, a separate patch is also just fine for the
Sage-Combinat queue. So let me take back my wording, and restate it
as:

``In case a ticket is in a closed state, do *not* change the corresponding 
patches.

Exception: sometimes the release manager may request a last minute change that:
- can and should be implemented before the next official release
- is trivial enough to not require unmerging the patch(es) and
  changing the status of the ticket to needs-work
  (typically a cosmetic change in the code)

In such a case, you can either at your convenience:
 - Add an extra small patch implementing just that change
 - Or create a new ticket and do the change there

In both cases, it should be done promptly.''

Cheers,
Nicolas

Anne: I forgot to thank you for your prompt implementation of Jeroen's
request at #5457!

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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Jeroen Demeyer
Short story: for me it was far more important *that* the problem got
fixed, not *how* it got fixed.

A situation where a ticket is merged but then problems are discovered is
a difficult situation to handle.  In the past, I would have re-opened
the ticket and set it to needs_work but that seems to upset people (they
think it will postpone the merging of their patch).  So this time, I
decided not to reopen the ticket but my intention was indeed for the
chances to be made on the same ticket.  However, ideally it would have
been done in a separate additional patch, leaving the original
already-merged patch alone.  But I certainly would have been happy also
with a new ticket.

I have no idea how any of this affect sage-combinat.


Jeroen.

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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Hugh Thomas

I should perhaps mention that I think the problem I reported was due to a 
different ticket (but similar circumstances): 
trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am.  

(This is not relevant to the policy discussion, but might be relevant to 
restoring the queue to maximal sanity.)

cheers,

Hugh

On Wednesday, September 26, 2012 7:27:36 AM UTC-7, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
>
> Hi Anne, Jeroen, 
>
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 07:10:13AM -0700, Anne Schilling wrote: 
> > > Lesson to be learned: please everybody refrain from modifying a patch 
> > > in a ticket that is in the closed state; instead, create a new ticket! 
> >  The merge manager forces us to do so. I do not think this is our 
> choice. 
>
> Jeroen did not change the ticket status to "needs work" which I think 
> he would have if his intention was for the change to happen on that 
> ticket. This seems like more work for him (having to unmerge/remerge 
> the ticket) and for us (having Sage beta's with various versions of 
> the ticket merged in). 
>
> Ok, I just asked for clarification on #5457. 
>
> Cheers, 
> Nicolas 
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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
Hi Anne, Jeroen,

On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 07:10:13AM -0700, Anne Schilling wrote:
> > Lesson to be learned: please everybody refrain from modifying a patch
> > in a ticket that is in the closed state; instead, create a new ticket!
>  The merge manager forces us to do so. I do not think this is our choice.

Jeroen did not change the ticket status to "needs work" which I think
he would have if his intention was for the change to happen on that
ticket. This seems like more work for him (having to unmerge/remerge
the ticket) and for us (having Sage beta's with various versions of
the ticket merged in).

Ok, I just asked for clarification on #5457.

Cheers,
Nicolas
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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Anne Schilling
On 9/26/12 4:45 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 07:51:10PM -0700, Hugh Thomas wrote:
>>I just tried to install the combinat queue on 5.4.beta1, and got rejects
>>on tableaux-combinatorics-am.patch.  I think the issue is that 5.4.beta1
>>(and 5.4.beta0) have trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am merged, but not the
>>most recent version of it. 
>>
>>Since this patch is pretty near the end of the queue, for my purposes I
>>can ignore the problem, but I thought I should report the issue.
> 
> Ouch. Thanks for the report, I'll look into this.
> 
> Lesson to be learned: please everybody refrain from modifying a patch
> in a ticket that is in the closed state; instead, create a new ticket!

 The merge manager forces us to do so. I do not think this is our choice.

Cheers,

Anne

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Re: [sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Franco Saliola
On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 7:45 AM, Nicolas M. Thiery  wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 07:51:10PM -0700, Hugh Thomas wrote:
> >I just tried to install the combinat queue on 5.4.beta1, and got
> rejects
> >on tableaux-combinatorics-am.patch.  I think the issue is that
> 5.4.beta1
> >(and 5.4.beta0) have trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am merged, but not
> the
> >most recent version of it.
> >
> >Since this patch is pretty near the end of the queue, for my purposes
> I
> >can ignore the problem, but I thought I should report the issue.
>
> Ouch. Thanks for the report, I'll look into this.
>
> Lesson to be learned: please everybody refrain from modifying a patch
> in a ticket that is in the closed state; instead, create a new ticket!
>

Does anyone know whether hg can prevent this (can we declare those patches
read-only)?

Franco

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[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-26 Thread Nicolas M. Thiery
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 07:51:10PM -0700, Hugh Thomas wrote:
>I just tried to install the combinat queue on 5.4.beta1, and got rejects
>on tableaux-combinatorics-am.patch.  I think the issue is that 5.4.beta1
>(and 5.4.beta0) have trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am merged, but not the
>most recent version of it. 
> 
>Since this patch is pretty near the end of the queue, for my purposes I
>can ignore the problem, but I thought I should report the issue.

Ouch. Thanks for the report, I'll look into this.

Lesson to be learned: please everybody refrain from modifying a patch
in a ticket that is in the closed state; instead, create a new ticket!

Cheers,
Nicolas
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[sage-combinat-devel] Re: Sage-Combinat queue working on 5.4.beta1

2012-09-25 Thread Hugh Thomas

Hi!

I just tried to install the combinat queue on 5.4.beta1, and got rejects on 
tableaux-combinatorics-am.patch.  I think the issue is that 5.4.beta1 (and 
5.4.beta0) have trac_9265_tableaux_categories_am merged, but not the most 
recent version of it.  

Since this patch is pretty near the end of the queue, for my purposes I can 
ignore the problem, but I thought I should report the issue.

cheers,

Hugh

On Friday, September 21, 2012 2:03:16 AM UTC-7, Nicolas M. Thiery wrote:
>
> Dear Sage-Combinat devs, 
>
> I just rebased the queue for 5.4.beta1. This boiled down to rebase, as 
> planned, the functorial construction patches on top of Valentin's 
> group algebra patch (#6654). I also had to remove a trivial white 
> space change from concrete_combinatorial_statistics_and_maps-cs.patch. 
>
> Cheers, 
> Nicolas 
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