[sage-devel] Re: 2.5.9alpha2: libsingular w/ cygwin compile failure

2007-05-04 Thread mabshoff

Oh well, I am an idiot.

I added ../kernel/htmlhelp.lib for the missing help symbol and instead
of "--export-symbol"  I switched the flags to "--shared". That way the
probelm with [EMAIL PROTECTED] goes away.

In line 968 I uncommneted heOpenWinHtmlHelp(keyw,helppath);  - so far
I have been unable to find the location where it is defined. The
symbol is present in Singular.exe, so there must be a way. Oliver, do
you have a clue?

There is also some work needed on Makefile.in because I did the work
on the console. Here we go:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /sage-2.5.alpha2/spkg/build/
singular-3-0-2-20070424-2/Sin
gular
$ g++ -shared  -o libsingular.so libsingular-tesths.o iparith.o mpsr
_Tok.o claptmpl.o grammar.o scanner.o attrib.o eigenval_ip.o extra.o
fehelp.o f
eOpt.o ipassign.o ipconv.o ipid.o iplib.o ipprint.o ipshell.o lists.o
sdb.o fgl
m.o interpolation.o silink.o subexpr.o janet.o wrapper.o libparse.o
gms.o pcv.
o maps_ip.o walk.o walk_ip.o cntrlc.o misc.o  Singular_res.o
slInit_Static.o mp
sr_Put.o mpsr_PutPoly.o mpsr_GetPoly.o  mpsr_sl.o mpsr_Get.o
mpsr_GetMisc.o mps
r_Error.o ndbm.o sing_dbm.o sing_win.o ../kernel/htmlhelp.lib -lkernel
-L../ker
nel -L../factory -L../libfac -L/sage-2.5.alpha2/local/lib -lsingfac -
lsingcf -l
ntl -lreadline -lgmp -lomalloc_ndebug ../kernel/mmalloc.o
Info: resolving _rl_line_buffer by linking to __imp__rl_line_buffer
(auto-import
)
Info: resolving _rl_readline_name by linking to
__imp__rl_readline_name (auto-im
port)
Info: resolving _rl_attempted_completion_function by linking to
__imp__rl_attemp
ted_completion_function (auto-import)
Info: resolving _rl_outstream by linking to __imp__rl_outstream (auto-
import)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /sage-2.5.alpha2/spkg/build/
singular-3-0-2-20070424-2/Sin
gular
$ ls -al *.so
-rwxr-xr-x 1 Administrator Kein 3831242 May  5 01:06 libsingular.so

Cheers,

Michael


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[sage-devel] Re: 2.5.9alpha2: libsingular w/ cygwin compile failure

2007-05-04 Thread mabshoff

Sorry to reply to myself so quickly, but check out
http://curl.haxx.se/mail/archive-2003-01/0056.html

Another interesting one is http://cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2003-04/msg01686.html

This indicates that the problem might be related to libtool :(

Bye,

Michael


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[sage-devel] 2.5.9alpha2: libsingular w/ cygwin compile failure

2007-05-04 Thread mabshoff

Hello folks,

there are two problems with singular in 2.5.0alpha2:

The first one is that the current package is missing Singular/
Singular.rc.in despite William adding it a while back (from SAGE.txt):

* 20070105 William Stein
 + included Singular/Singular.rc.in which was missing for some
   reason and is needed by the cygwin build.

That is obviously fixed by trowing a copy in the spkg again ;)

The next one occurs when attempting to link libsingular.so:

g++  -export-dynamic  -o libsingular.so \
  libsingular-tesths.o iparith.o mpsr_Tok.o claptmpl.o \
  grammar.o scanner.o attrib.o eigenval_ip.o extra.o fehelp.o
feOpt.o ip
assign.o ipconv.o ipid.o iplib.o ipprint.o ipshell.o lists.o sdb.o
fglm.o interp
olation.o silink.o subexpr.o janet.o wrapper.o libparse.o sing_win.o
gms.o pcv.o
 maps_ip.o walk.o walk_ip.o cntrlc.o misc.o  Singular_res.o
slInit_Static.o mpsr
_Put.o mpsr_PutPoly.o mpsr_GetPoly.o mpsr_sl.o mpsr_Get.o
mpsr_GetMisc.o mpsr_Er
ror.o ndbm.o sing_dbm.o -lkernel -L../kernel -L../factory -L../libfac -
L/sage-2.
5.alpha2/local/lib -lsingfac -lsingcf -lntl -lreadline -lgmp -
lomalloc_ndebug ..
/kernel/mmalloc.o
sing_win.o:sing_win.cc:(.text+0x91): undefined reference to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-cygwin/3.4.4/../../../libcygwin.a(libcmain.o):
(.text+0xab):
 undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Info: resolving _rl_line_buffer by linking to __imp__rl_line_buffer
(auto-import
)
Info: resolving _rl_readline_name by linking to
__imp__rl_readline_name (auto-im
port)
Info: resolving _rl_attempted_completion_function by linking to
__imp__rl_attemp
ted_completion_function (auto-import)
Info: resolving _rl_outstream by linking to __imp__rl_outstream (auto-
import)
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libsingular] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/sage-2.5.alpha2/spkg/build/
singular-3-0-2-20070424/
Singular'
make[2]: *** [libsingular] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/sage-2.5.alpha2/spkg/build/
singular-3-0-2-20070424'

Unable to build Singular.



The issues is "undefined reference to [EMAIL PROTECTED]'". To quote
http://www.cryer.co.uk/brian/mswinswdev/msdev_lnk2001ueswm.htm :

"The linker is looking for the entry point for a console application,
but the application is being compiled and linked as a windows
application (i.e. not a console application)."

The issues on that webpage is related to MSVC, but also applies to gcc
under cygwin. I read somewhere that Windows doesn'T look for main, but
the linker renames that function for some idiotic reason (feel free to
correct me)

I am not quite sure how to fix this, maybe Martin has an answer once
he is home again. I am going to bed now and hopefully the issues has
been resolved in the morning.

Cheers,

Michael


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[sage-devel] latex output

2007-05-04 Thread Jonathan Bober

When sage converts a long list to a latex string, it inserts '\\' as a
separator. Is this desired behavior? In many tex situations this does
nothing, and in other situations it causes problems. To me, it seems
that the only situation where this behavior is desired is covered by
EMBEDDED_MODE (whatever that is) which wraps the list with an array
environment.

If this is not the desired behavior, perhaps I will submit a patch to
fix it, or else, since the change is just one line, perhaps I might just
leave it by saying:

Changing line 67 of sage/misc/latex.py (in function list_function(x))
from
sep = ', \n'
to
sep = ', \n '

solves the problem, if this is indeed a problem.

An example follows:

sage: a = [1/2 for i in range(20)]
sage: latex(a)

\left[\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}, 
\\\frac{1}{2}\right]
sage: sage.misc.latex.EMBEDDED_MODE=True
sage: latex(a)

\begin{array}{l}[\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2},\\
\frac{1}{2}],\\
\end{array}
sage: 



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[sage-devel] Re: FReeMat

2007-05-04 Thread Justin C . Walker


On May 1, 2007, at 21:25 , William Stein wrote:

> This GPL'd program called FreeMAT was mentioned in the recent  
> slashdot thing
> on Mathematica 6.0:

At first blush, the app is in its early stages, and the developer(s)  
seem to have given much weight to infrastructure: there are basics  
for doing calculator-style operations, some debugging support,  
documentation support, all 'integrated' with a GUI (platform- 
specific).  This part seems solid and well-designed.

There seems to be little "domain-specific" support, but a lot of  
built-in functions, support for simple data types (arrays, matrices,  
ints, reals, chars, strings), and function declarations.

I have not spent much time with this, but on the face of it, I'm not  
sure that as it is, there is much here for SAGE: it has its own  
interpreter, its unclear how it performs, and I can't tell the extent  
to which you can add to the system from scripts (e.g., define new  
operations or new data types).  It appears that scripts are  
interpreted, not 'compiled', but I didn't spend much time on it.

The GUI for Mac OS X (which seems homegrown, and similar to that for  
the other platforms) seems nice.  You get a main window for entering  
expressions, an editor window to create 'scripts' (.m files); and  
documentation windows with index/search/TOC tabs.

It seems well done.  Perhaps there is something to be learned from  
the approach, particularly the GUI.  For math content, it's pretty  
light, but if it catches on, or if the developer(s) have a lot of  
energy, that can change.

Justin

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[sage-devel] Re: multi_polynomial_element add/sub slower than mul?!?

2007-05-04 Thread Nick Alexander

"Oliver Wienand (TU Kaiserslautern, Singular Team)"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Okay, I looked into the issue. In the top version from Singular of the
> repository now has a not yet fully tested polynomial arithmetic for Z/
> n with the following functions:

Hi Oliver,

Where is the Singular repo?  I can't find a CVS head anywhere on the
site.  Is it private?  (gasp!)

Nick

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[sage-devel] Re: FReeMat

2007-05-04 Thread Hamptonio

Here is a very short review.

In the documentation, it is warned that building from source is rather
difficult due to "esoteric dependencies".  It is written in C++,
pretty well commented.

It is very much like IDL and matlab.  From a very quick look, it seems
the strengths are numerical linear algebra and visualization.  I am
not sure there is much functionality that is not included already in
numpy, scipy, and matplotlib, although it is well integrated.  It
looks like support for MPI is being added, but the documentation
hasn't been written yet.

The documentation is quite good, hundreds of pages.

I get the sense that this is currently written almost entirely by one
person, Samit Basu.  There is a Google group for freemat, and he/she
seems to respond pretty well to requests.

I guess that's all my impressions.

Marshall Hampton

On May 1, 11:25 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> This GPL'd program called FreeMAT was mentioned in the recent slashdot thing
> on Mathematica 6.0:
>
>http://freemat.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>
> If anybody feels like trawling their site, trying out their program,
> etc., to check
> to see if FreeMat might have anything to offer SAGE, some sort of report to
> sage-devel would be very much welcome.
>
> --
> William Stein
> Associate Professor of Mathematics
> University of Washingtonhttp://www.williamstein.org


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[sage-devel] Re: SAGE -- morphisms between curves

2007-05-04 Thread William Stein

On 5/4/07, Nick Alexander <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello William,
>
> I can't figure out how to create maps between curves.  For example,
> I'd really like to be able to write a Frobenius morphism for an EC.
> Or I'd like to hand-write an isogeny E -> E_1.  Could you help me
> create a map of curves in SAGE defined by polynomial equations?

That's not implemented yet.   Would anybody be interested in helping
to implement morphisms of elliptic curves?  Or, even just making a few
random remarks about what to do and not do when implementing
morphisms between elliptic curves.

William

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[sage-devel] Re: Fwd: SAGE

2007-05-04 Thread mabshoff



On May 4, 5:31 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Michael,
>
> When we create the SAGE windows installer, keep this email in mind
> as our "target audience". :-)
>

Oh well, just using zips would probably solve that problem. How dare
you to use something else than zip ;)

 I am quite sure that I will not mention my personal EMail-address in
the installer, otherwise I would have to bounce all email regarding
the installer to sage-support. This following email is probably the
wrong incentive to get me to work, maybe it is time to develop
amnesia :)

> -- Forwarded message --
> From: Jenny 
> Date: May 4, 2007 1:14 AM
> Subject: SAGE
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Hi there!
>
> I've just downloaded the sage software for Windows (I'm using XP), and
> I have a problem in that I can't find the install file. I have version
> 2.4.1.2 and I have 18M file that's listed above it.
>

Which 18MB file? The tar.gz for cygwin is roughly 155MB in size.

> Really, I have no idea what I'm doing.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jenny

I used to work in a small computer support shop doing mostly small
business support on everything from Netware 3.x to Windows NT 4 (it
has been a while) and I could tell you quite a number of stories ...
but that would get me way OT and I tend to rant about that topic.

Cheers,

Michael


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[sage-devel] Re: [Fwd: [Maxima] announcement: Maxima 5.12.0 release]

2007-05-04 Thread William Stein

Thanks.  Maxima-5.12.0 will be in SAGE-2.5  (I just packaged it
up for SAGE last night.).  Also, you should probably be able to
do a
 sage -i maxima-5.12.0
and test it out right now.

It has numerous new features and bug fixes...

 William

On 5/4/07, Jaap Spies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: [Maxima] announcement: Maxima 5.12.0 release
> Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:45:21 -0600
> From: Robert Dodier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Maxima Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> Please redistribute this notice as you see fit.
> Robert Dodier
>
> 
> Announcing Maxima 5.12.0
>
> Maxima is a GPL'd branch of Macsyma, the venerable symbolic
> computation system. Maxima 5.12.0 is a bug fix and feature
> enhancement release.
>
> Maxima has functions to work with polynomials, matrices, finite sets,
> integrals, derivatives and differential equations, linear algebra,
> plotting, arbitrary-precision arithmetic, etc.
>
> Maxima can run on MS Windows and various flavors of Unix,
> including MacOS X.
> There is a precompiled executable installer for Windows,
> source and binary RPM's for Linux, and tar.gz containing
> the source distribution.
>
> Maxima is implemented in Common Lisp; several Lisps can compile
> and run Maxima, including CMUCL, SBCL, Clisp, and GCL.
>
> The Maxima project welcomes new participants. You can contribute
> in several ways: reporting bugs, fixing bugs, writing new add-on
> packages, revising core functions, user interfaces, documentation, 
> Why not see what's happening on the mailing list and consider how
> you might contribute to the project.
>
> Regards,
> Robert Dodier
> Maxima developer and 5.12.0 release manager
>
> Project page:
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxima
>
> Documentation:
> http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs.shtml
>
> Bug reports. Please create a Sourceforge login
> before filing a bug report.
> http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=4933&atid=104933
>
> Mailing list. Please sign up before posting a message.
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>
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>
> Project home page:
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>
> Change log:
> http://maxima.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/maxima/maxima/ChangeLog-5.12.0
>
> Short change log:
>
>   * New lapack package (BLAS and LAPACK functions)
>
>   * Bug fixes and enhancements to plotting code
>
>   * Bug fixes and enhancements to Xmaxima user interface
>
>   * Revise Maxima reference manual (all languages)
>
>   * Some new add-on packages
>
>   * Several minor improvements
>
>   * Many bug fixes
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[sage-devel] Fwd: SAGE

2007-05-04 Thread William Stein

Michael,

When we create the SAGE windows installer, keep this email in mind
as our "target audience". :-)

-- Forwarded message --
From: Jenny 
Date: May 4, 2007 1:14 AM
Subject: SAGE
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hi there!

I've just downloaded the sage software for Windows (I'm using XP), and
I have a problem in that I can't find the install file. I have version
2.4.1.2 and I have 18M file that's listed above it.

Really, I have no idea what I'm doing.

Cheers,

Jenny

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[sage-devel] [Fwd: [Maxima] announcement: Maxima 5.12.0 release]

2007-05-04 Thread Jaap Spies



 Original Message 
Subject: [Maxima] announcement: Maxima 5.12.0 release
Date: Thu, 3 May 2007 19:45:21 -0600
From: Robert Dodier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Maxima Mailing List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Please redistribute this notice as you see fit.
Robert Dodier


Announcing Maxima 5.12.0

Maxima is a GPL'd branch of Macsyma, the venerable symbolic
computation system. Maxima 5.12.0 is a bug fix and feature
enhancement release.

Maxima has functions to work with polynomials, matrices, finite sets,
integrals, derivatives and differential equations, linear algebra,
plotting, arbitrary-precision arithmetic, etc.

Maxima can run on MS Windows and various flavors of Unix,
including MacOS X.
There is a precompiled executable installer for Windows,
source and binary RPM's for Linux, and tar.gz containing
the source distribution.

Maxima is implemented in Common Lisp; several Lisps can compile
and run Maxima, including CMUCL, SBCL, Clisp, and GCL.

The Maxima project welcomes new participants. You can contribute
in several ways: reporting bugs, fixing bugs, writing new add-on
packages, revising core functions, user interfaces, documentation, 
Why not see what's happening on the mailing list and consider how
you might contribute to the project.

Regards,
Robert Dodier
Maxima developer and 5.12.0 release manager

Project page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/maxima

Documentation:
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/docs.shtml

Bug reports. Please create a Sourceforge login
before filing a bug report.
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?group_id=4933&atid=104933

Mailing list. Please sign up before posting a message.
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/maximalist.html

Download page:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=4933

Ports page:
http://maxima.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Maxima%20ports

Project home page:
http://maxima.sourceforge.net

Change log:
http://maxima.cvs.sourceforge.net/*checkout*/maxima/maxima/ChangeLog-5.12.0

Short change log:

  * New lapack package (BLAS and LAPACK functions)

  * Bug fixes and enhancements to plotting code

  * Bug fixes and enhancements to Xmaxima user interface

  * Revise Maxima reference manual (all languages)

  * Some new add-on packages

  * Several minor improvements

  * Many bug fixes
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[sage-devel] Re: SAGE-2.5 alpha 2

2007-05-04 Thread Martin Albrecht

> > ifeq ($(SINGUNAME),ppcMac-darwin)
> > SO_SUFFIX= dylib
> > LIBSINGULAR_FLAGS = -singule_module
> > LIBSINGULAR_LD = $(LD)
> > endif
>
> It's often A Bad Idea to invoke 'ld' directly on Mac OS X: the rules
> are pretty snarky.  Is this the way it comes from the factory?

It is definitely my fault - if there is any. The SINGULAR people are not to 
blame for any build issues. But actually libtool is invoked, is that the way 
to go? 

Martin

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