[sage-devel] Re: Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

2015-08-05 Thread Juan Luis Varona


> Can you upload the entire log somewhere?
>


Here it is (a 22.9 MB file):
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/8293746/log-compiling-sage68-osx10.11-beta3.txt
 

>
> It seems that you made it to the documentation build, so ./sage should 
> work (probably crashes but possibly with an informative error message)
>
>
Yes, ./sage crashes. I cannot copy and paste the error because I have 
deleted it and emptied the trash.

Now, I'm trying to compile sage-2.6 under osx 10.11 beta4, released 
yesterday. The process will finish tomorrow (I have already checked that 
sage-6.8-x86_64-Darwin-OSX_10.10_x86_64-app.dmg does not works with osx 
10.11 beta4, so I suppose that again after compile form source)

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[sage-devel] Re: Ukrainian interface Sage

2015-08-05 Thread Dominique Laurain


I am not so sure about the needed "localization"...

Yes, could be the docstrings (= the text used as comment in various parts 
of SAGE python component)in that case, I guess as a python newbee, you 
have python tool for extract text comments from code and polib to merge 
them all in text file ...to be translated later and parsed by a special 
editor (not available in SMC)

But can be too : menu in the notebook, the graphical web interface for the 
cloud, the alphabet (czech,...) or keyboard, the latex translator...the 
localization of various  software (pari,...) included in SAGE.

Maybe hard and long to do for SAGE devel...for maybe...at the end of the 
painful task, revert by comment code only with the six or seven mainly used 
languages all over the world (OACI for aircraft traffic control doesn't use 
more than six or seven : English, French, Spanish, Russian). Yes 
russian,not ukranian...not because some political idea..simply because 
international procedures use russian more.

Dominique.

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[sage-devel] Re: Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

2015-08-05 Thread Volker Braun
Can you upload the entire log somewhere?

It seems that you made it to the documentation build, so ./sage should work 
(probably crashes but possibly with an informative error message)


On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 8:55:54 PM UTC+2, Juan Luis Varona wrote:
>
> Thanks for the answer. As suggested, I have tried to compile Sage 6.7 and 
> 6.8 from source in Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) public betas 1, 2 and 3, 
> without success.
>
> This is the final message of the process of compilation with sage 6.8 with 
> Mac OS X 10.11 public beta 3:
>
>
>
> 
> Unhandled SIGSEGV: A segmentation fault occurred in Sage.
> This probably occurred because a *compiled* component of Sage has a bug
> in it and is not properly wrapped with sig_on(), sig_off().
> Sage will now terminate.
> 
> ./sage: line 134: 97511 Segmentation fault: 11  "$SAGE_ROOT/src/bin/sage" 
> "$@"
> make[2]: *** [doc-html] Error 139
> make[1]: *** [all] Error 2
>
> real 1232m33.049s
> user 542m41.316s
> sys 61m2.591s
> ***
> Error building Sage.
>
> The following package(s) may have failed to build (not necessarily
> during this run of 'make all'):
>
> The build directory may contain configuration files and other potentially
> helpful information. WARNING: if you now run 'make' again, the build
> directory will, by default, be deleted. Set the environment variable
> SAGE_KEEP_BUILT_SPKGS to 'yes' to prevent this.
>
> make: *** [all] Error 1
>
>

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[sage-devel] Re: Sage in Mac OSX 11.11 (El Capitan)

2015-08-05 Thread Juan Luis Varona
Thanks for the answer. As suggested, I have tried to compile Sage 6.7 and 
6.8 from source in Mac OS X 10.11 (El Capitan) public betas 1, 2 and 3, 
without success.

This is the final message of the process of compilation with sage 6.8 with 
Mac OS X 10.11 public beta 3:




Unhandled SIGSEGV: A segmentation fault occurred in Sage.
This probably occurred because a *compiled* component of Sage has a bug
in it and is not properly wrapped with sig_on(), sig_off().
Sage will now terminate.

./sage: line 134: 97511 Segmentation fault: 11  "$SAGE_ROOT/src/bin/sage" 
"$@"
make[2]: *** [doc-html] Error 139
make[1]: *** [all] Error 2

real 1232m33.049s
user 542m41.316s
sys 61m2.591s
***
Error building Sage.

The following package(s) may have failed to build (not necessarily
during this run of 'make all'):

The build directory may contain configuration files and other potentially
helpful information. WARNING: if you now run 'make' again, the build
directory will, by default, be deleted. Set the environment variable
SAGE_KEEP_BUILT_SPKGS to 'yes' to prevent this.

make: *** [all] Error 1

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Ukrainian interface Sage

2015-08-05 Thread Volker Braun
Well there isn't much tooling (since one rarely wants to translate 
docstrings), but its easy to programmatically extract docstrings. Then just 
write them out in a pofile, translate, and change ? to look up the 
translation.

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Ukrainian interface Sage

2015-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 8:41 AM, kcrisman  wrote:
> Surely this is far too late but as I think you know from other stuff (you
> are the one contributing this, I believe) the sagenb can be localized, Sage
> proper does not (yet) have any facility for doing so.
>

There's a (depressing) discussion about this problem here:
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/27214065/how-to-docstring-in-python-for-multiple-languages

>
>> I have an idea to create Ukrainian localization of Sage. It will be useful
>> for many Ukrainian users of this program. But I have some questions and need
>> some help in this work. Can someone to prompt me, please?
>>
>> What language file I have to translate? Where I can find it? And then,
>> after translation of this file, what I have to do? Where I have to send it
>> that Ukrainian interface will appeared in the next versions of Sage?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any help.
>
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[sage-devel] Re: Ukrainian interface Sage

2015-08-05 Thread kcrisman
Surely this is far too late but as I think you know from other stuff (you 
are the one contributing this, I believe) the sagenb can be localized, Sage 
proper does not (yet) have any facility for doing so.

I have an idea to create Ukrainian localization of Sage. It will be useful 
> for many Ukrainian users of this program. But I have some questions and 
> need some help in this work. Can someone to prompt me, please?
>
> What language file I have to translate? Where I can find it? And then, 
> after translation of this file, what I have to do? Where I have to send it 
> that Ukrainian interface will appeared in the next versions of Sage? 
>
>
> Thanks for any help. 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra

2015-08-05 Thread kcrisman


You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be 
> equivalent for testing purposes. 
>
>
>
That's what we ended up telling my students. 

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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra

2015-08-05 Thread kcrisman


> One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) on 
>> the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a 
>> distraction. 
>>  IMHO it should automatically hide itself...
>>
>
> Yes, we discussed that one a lot.  Try slowly making your browser window 
> skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode.  Now 
> the button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out 
> nicely.
>

Yes, one of my biggest annoyances is the same as Dima's; it should be 
clickable to small-device mode, but Rob and I have already had that 
discussion. 

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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra

2015-08-05 Thread William Stein
On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 3:00 AM, dimpase  wrote:
>
>
> On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:20:02 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:12:29 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>>
>>> One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?)
>>> on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a
>>> distraction.
>>>  IMHO it should automatically hide itself...
>>
>>
>> Yes, we discussed that one a lot.  Try slowly making your browser window
>> skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode.  Now the
>> button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out
>> nicely.
>
>
> I use a tiling window manager on my laptops and desktops, and "making
> windows skinny" isn't really something I can do easily...

You could zoom in (control plus) the browser window, which should be
equivalent for testing purposes.

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[sage-devel] Re: [sage-edu] Re: Sage-enabled textbook for Abstract Algebra

2015-08-05 Thread dimpase


On Wednesday, 5 August 2015 00:20:02 UTC+1, Rob Beezer wrote:
>
>
> On Sunday, August 2, 2015 at 1:12:29 AM UTC-7, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
>> One thing I didn't like was the inability to hide the contents frame(?) 
>> on the left-hand side. It just sits there for no good reason, and is a 
>> distraction. 
>>  IMHO it should automatically hide itself...
>>
>
> Yes, we discussed that one a lot.  Try slowly making your browser window 
> skinny and eventually the interface will go into small-device-mode.  Now 
> the button at the bottom-left should slide the contents sidebar in and out 
> nicely.
>

I use a tiling window manager on my laptops and desktops, and "making 
windows skinny" isn't really something I can do easily...
  

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[sage-devel] Re: Default ipython profile

2015-08-05 Thread Volker Braun
Since we aready have a private .ipython-* directory I'm fine with using the 
profile_default in there.


On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 4:23:00 AM UTC+2, Kwankyu Lee wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As of version 6.8, Sage seems to read "profile_default" in 
> $DOT_SAGE/ipython-* directory by default. As I remember, the default 
> profile was "profile_sage".
> Is this change official? Or should we view it as a bug?
>
> I would appreciate a reply.
>
>
> Kwankyu
>

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