On Tuesday, November 25, 2014 3:17:22 AM UTC+1, Thierry (sage-googlesucks@xxx) wrote: > > Hi again, &c. >
[everything else deleted, though I agree with much, not with some] I don't know if this will reassure you, but (a) I voted no, and (b) given how William seemed to listen & change course on collecting votes [1, 2] I am less worried about being on the losing side (which it looks like right now). I am confident that, if you or other people have concrete proposals for amending the code/guidelines/etc., they will be taken seriously, at least by William. The unfortunate fact is that some people already feel excluded from the community, with or without a vote. Having read some of the threads in question, I *suspect* it's because certain male developers communicate in a vigorous style which intimidates other developers (male & female). Given the situation, consensus is already impossible; division pre-exists the vote. So it's incorrect to say that the vote *causes* a division in the community; if you read that thread carefully, you'd see the division is already there. If I may be allowed some levity: I suppose William may be unconsciously patriarchal & paternalistic -- he is male, after all -- but I don't think he'd be so deliberately, unless it was with his children. :-) & Sage is, in a way, a child of his. sincerely john perry [1] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/iGxa2F01rFc/df6sN_F6vp8J [2] https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sage-devel/iGxa2F01rFc/7gxoweTG0oYJ (hope the links work; I haven't done that in a while, maybe ever) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
