Re: [sage-devel] Re: Have you considered having a Sage Journal?

2020-05-26 Thread mmarco 
I have just published a paper there, with the Sage code to compute minimal 
models of GCDA's. So it is certainly possible to publish Sage papers there, 
but my impression is that the journal is more geared towards publishing 
"external packages" (which might fit with the workflow of  systems like 
Macaulay2) , rather than code that is integrated in the system itself (as 
we do in Sage).

Something similar happens in the Journal of Open Source Software 
(https://joss.theoj.org/).



El lunes, 25 de mayo de 2020, 15:46:47 (UTC+2), Ursula Whitcher escribió:
>
> It might also be worth looking at the Journal of Software in Algebra and 
> Geometry:
>
>
> https://msp.org/jsag/about/journal/about.html
>
>
> Their current focus is Macaulay2, but as I recall, some of the editors 
> have previously expressed interest in including Sage-based articles as well.
>
>
> UAW
>
>
> On 5/25/2020 9:11 AM, kcrisman wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 2:44:12 AM UTC-4, Diego Sejas wrote: 
>>
>> Hello, Sage Community!
>>
>> I am not completely sure that this is the correct place to propose an 
>> idea like this, but I think that here it can be upvoted or downvoted, and 
>> commented.
>>
>> I have been thinking for a long time that the Sage Community should have 
>> a Journal for everyone of us being able to read what is going on with Sage; 
>> how it is being used in research, education, etc.; what improvements have 
>> been made; etc., etc., etc. Perhaps an annual publication, so it is not so 
>> much of a burden for the editors (?).
>>
>> Since the *Global Virtual SageDays 109* is approaching (yay!!!), it 
>> could be a good moment to discuss this idea with the community. Actually, I 
>> can see that somebody already asked about how people is using Sage in 
>> research, education, etc. (
>> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/51524/how-do-you-use-sagemath-in-research-education/)
>>  
>> 
>>  
>> That could evolve into a small journal with a few articles about the use of 
>> Sage, if enough people collaborate.
>>
>
> There was actually a proposal like this quite a long time ago:
>
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20100615075428/https://www.sagemath.org/jsage/ref.html
>
> The idea was to have a place where people could publish code in a refereed 
> sense.  To my recollection, at that time there wasn't enough interest from 
> academic departments (and perhaps still isn't) in awarding promotion based 
> on such code.
>
> Other groups do have such publications, e.g. the TuGboat (
> https://tug.org/tugboat/) for TeX or the R Journal (
> https://journal.r-project.org).  I think those that do may have an order 
> of magnitude higher number of "power users", though.  But it would be great 
> to have something like this for Sage.  An annual edition would seem 
> reasonable, and certainly would be great for visibility/publicity (see the 
> moribund https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-marketing for one 
> of many attempts at this).
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: Have you considered having a Sage Journal?

2020-05-25 Thread Ursula Whitcher 
It might also be worth looking at the Journal of Software in Algebra and 
Geometry:



https://msp.org/jsag/about/journal/about.html


Their current focus is Macaulay2, but as I recall, some of the editors 
have previously expressed interest in including Sage-based articles as well.



UAW


On 5/25/2020 9:11 AM, kcrisman wrote:



On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 2:44:12 AM UTC-4, Diego Sejas wrote:

Hello, Sage Community!

I am not completely sure that this is the correct place to propose
an idea like this, but I think that here it can be upvoted or
downvoted, and commented.

I have been thinking for a long time that the Sage Community
should have a Journal for everyone of us being able to read what
is going on with Sage; how it is being used in research,
education, etc.; what improvements have been made; etc., etc.,
etc. Perhaps an annual publication, so it is not so much of a
burden for the editors (?).

Since the *Global Virtual SageDays 109* is approaching (yay!!!),
it could be a good moment to discuss this idea with the community.
Actually, I can see that somebody already asked about how people
is using Sage in research, education, etc.

(https://ask.sagemath.org/question/51524/how-do-you-use-sagemath-in-research-education/)


That could evolve into a small journal with a few articles about
the use of Sage, if enough people collaborate.


There was actually a proposal like this quite a long time ago:

https://web.archive.org/web/20100615075428/https://www.sagemath.org/jsage/ref.html

The idea was to have a place where people could publish code in a 
refereed sense.  To my recollection, at that time there wasn't enough 
interest from academic departments (and perhaps still isn't) in 
awarding promotion based on such code.


Other groups do have such publications, e.g. the TuGboat 
(https://tug.org/tugboat/) for TeX or the R Journal 
(https://journal.r-project.org).  I think those that do may have an 
order of magnitude higher number of "power users", though.  But it 
would be great to have something like this for Sage.  An annual 
edition would seem reasonable, and certainly would be great for 
visibility/publicity (see the moribund 
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-marketing for one of many 
attempts at this).

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[sage-devel] Re: Have you considered having a Sage Journal?

2020-05-25 Thread kcrisman 


On Sunday, May 24, 2020 at 2:44:12 AM UTC-4, Diego Sejas wrote:
>
> Hello, Sage Community!
>
> I am not completely sure that this is the correct place to propose an idea 
> like this, but I think that here it can be upvoted or downvoted, and 
> commented.
>
> I have been thinking for a long time that the Sage Community should have a 
> Journal for everyone of us being able to read what is going on with Sage; 
> how it is being used in research, education, etc.; what improvements have 
> been made; etc., etc., etc. Perhaps an annual publication, so it is not so 
> much of a burden for the editors (?).
>
> Since the *Global Virtual SageDays 109* is approaching (yay!!!), it could 
> be a good moment to discuss this idea with the community. Actually, I can 
> see that somebody already asked about how people is using Sage in research, 
> education, etc. (
> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/51524/how-do-you-use-sagemath-in-research-education/)
>  
> 
>  
> That could evolve into a small journal with a few articles about the use of 
> Sage, if enough people collaborate.
>

There was actually a proposal like this quite a long time ago:

https://web.archive.org/web/20100615075428/https://www.sagemath.org/jsage/ref.html

The idea was to have a place where people could publish code in a refereed 
sense.  To my recollection, at that time there wasn't enough interest from 
academic departments (and perhaps still isn't) in awarding promotion based 
on such code.

Other groups do have such publications, e.g. the TuGboat 
(https://tug.org/tugboat/) for TeX or the R Journal 
(https://journal.r-project.org).  I think those that do may have an order 
of magnitude higher number of "power users", though.  But it would be great 
to have something like this for Sage.  An annual edition would seem 
reasonable, and certainly would be great for visibility/publicity (see the 
moribund https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sage-marketing for one of 
many attempts at this).

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