[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
One last thing, I wanted to say that my earlier Mathematica comments do not (usually) apply when dealing with the individual developers, who are (usually) very helpful, especially on MathGroup. The thing I am complaining about is the overall process of reporting and fixing problems. On Sep 14, 5:50 pm, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... wait until you actually start pushing Mathematica, it gets sluggish on you, produces wrong results and/or crashes, and you receive apathy and blame dodging instead of tech support and bug fixing. On Sep 14, 3:31 pm, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out:http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/DynamicInt I actually think its more impressive in person. While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and mathematica/ matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated purposes? Or is java an option? -Marshall --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
Yes, thanks, that example looks like it will help me a lot. Btw, before reading William's instructions, I ran it without the - python option and it seemed fine. Does the -python option just turn off the preparser? Cheers, Marshall On Sep 14, 7:52 pm, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted a cleaned-up example of AJAX-twisted.web2-SAGE here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/agc/simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py just getting your hands dirty by messing with examples is best, then go to the books / google and learn about the details of the code. The script above pretty much gives you the simplest possible example of how to combine the technologies that make up the SAGE notebook. There is a tiny README at the top of the file. Thanks! Great simple example. For the total newbie, the way to use it is to download simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py to a file on your computer, then type sage -python simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py and follow the directions, i.e. open your browser to localhost:8000. Make sure you aren't already running a sage notebook on that port. I'll put this in the SAGE_ROOT/examples directory so it comes with future versions of SAGE. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
Marshall wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. I looked at Mathematica's new manipulate command and I am now wondering if it calculates the rendering data on-the-fly when the sliders are moved or does it precalculate the rendering data and then the sliders are used to navigate through this data? Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
My impression is that recalculates on the fly, but until you stop (moving a slider for example) it tries to do quick-and-dirty computations and rendering. This is pretty clear if you manipulate a 3D graph of a function f(x,y,a) with a the parameter - it doesn't even draw the mesh until you let go of the slider. -MH On Sep 15, 10:51 am, Ted Kosan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marshall wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. I looked at Mathematica's new manipulate command and I am now wondering if it calculates the rendering data on-the-fly when the sliders are moved or does it precalculate the rendering data and then the sliders are used to navigate through this data? Ted --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On Sep 14, 2007, at 1:46 PM, William Stein wrote:
On 9/14/07, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some
courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic
commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for
teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch
from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not
sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would
make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my
department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain
bureaucratic sense).
For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out:
http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/
DynamicInteractivity/.
I actually think its more impressive in person.
While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and
mathematica/
matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am
learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work
through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the
server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone
have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend
a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated
purposes? Or is java an option?
Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that javascript/AJAX is good
at doing?
When you move an html control the server is contacted for the updated
output and it is displayed (by directly manipulating the DOM). I'm
sure
it won't be as snappy as a purely local GUI (e.g., Mathematica),
but it
will work from anywhere over a web browser, which counts for a lot
these days.
I've had some discussions with people about implementing things like
this (mostly with Robert Miller), but nobody has actually done it for
SAGE yet. Our complete rewrite of the notebook to use Twisted
as the underlying server technology I think makes doing something
like this easier.
That is really cool!
Generating, serving, and displaying pngs via javascript would be
really hard to do fast enough to make it smooth.
{{{
%time
for n in range(10):
plot(x^n).show()
}}}
CPU time: 2.44 s, Wall time: 2.93 s
A rough estimate of 4 frames/sec... maybe it's possible.
- Robert
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[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On 9/14/07, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out: http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/DynamicInteractivity/. I actually think its more impressive in person. While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and mathematica/ matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated purposes? Or is java an option? Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that javascript/AJAX is good at doing? When you move an html control the server is contacted for the updated output and it is displayed (by directly manipulating the DOM). I'm sure it won't be as snappy as a purely local GUI (e.g., Mathematica), but it will work from anywhere over a web browser, which counts for a lot these days. I've had some discussions with people about implementing things like this (mostly with Robert Miller), but nobody has actually done it for SAGE yet. Our complete rewrite of the notebook to use Twisted as the underlying server technology I think makes doing something like this easier. -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On Sep 14, 2007, at 1:46 PM, William Stein wrote: On 9/14/07, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out: http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/ DynamicInteractivity/. I actually think its more impressive in person. While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and mathematica/ matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated purposes? Or is java an option? Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that javascript/AJAX is good at doing? When you move an html control the server is contacted for the updated output and it is displayed (by directly manipulating the DOM). I'm sure it won't be as snappy as a purely local GUI (e.g., Mathematica), but it will work from anywhere over a web browser, which counts for a lot these days. I've had some discussions with people about implementing things like this (mostly with Robert Miller), but nobody has actually done it for SAGE yet. Our complete rewrite of the notebook to use Twisted as the underlying server technology I think makes doing something like this easier. -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On 9/14/07, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out: http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/DynamicInteractivity/. I actually think its more impressive in person. Good timing. Just yesterday I sent this to enthought-dev: https://mail.enthought.com/pipermail/enthought-dev/2007-September/009023.html Traits/TraitsUI is currently the closest python-side technology to mathematica 6's stuff. In certain ways it's more generic, in others not, and Mathematica's implementation is impressively elegant. I'd also love to have this... For more on traits: http://code.enthought.com/traits/ This is a very nice mini-tutorial geared towards experimental scientists: http://www.gael-varoquaux.info/computers/traits_tutorial/index.html A word of caution: today, playing with Manipulate[], I found a truly serious bug. On Linux at least (all I have tested on, Ubuntu Feisty), if you leave a window that has Manipulate[] widgets open for a few hours and go do something else, at some point those widgets go dead. The notebook remains alive, you can run new code, etc. But both existing Manipulate widgets and new ones you make become 100% unresponsive to mouse input to drag their controls. Something to be aware of before using this in front of an audience. I hope they'll fix it soon. Cheers, f --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that javascript/AJAX is good at doing? When you move an html control the server is contacted for the updated output and it is displayed (by directly manipulating the DOM). I'm sure it won't be as snappy as a purely local GUI (e.g., Mathematica), but it will work from anywhere over a web browser, which counts for a lot these days. Well that's why I asked, I am ignorant about javascript/AJAX. Can you suggest a good reference? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
... wait until you actually start pushing Mathematica, it gets sluggish on you, produces wrong results and/or crashes, and you receive apathy and blame dodging instead of tech support and bug fixing. On Sep 14, 3:31 pm, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out:http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/DynamicInt I actually think its more impressive in person. While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and mathematica/ matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated purposes? Or is java an option? -Marshall --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
Yeah, I have used mathematica for 17 years and I've pushed it very hard at times. 6.0 seems much buggier than previous releases, but they added and rewrote so much that I am not that surprised. I still think its an amazing accomplishment, and for illustrating basic ideas in calculus I don't think anything matches it. I have submitted bugs to mathematica and gotten no response, so I know what you mean there as well. But I am committed to using and improving sage over the long haul, don't get me wrong. I think the superiority of the development model will win on most fronts eventually. Cheers, Marshall On Sep 14, 5:50 pm, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... wait until you actually start pushing Mathematica, it gets sluggish on you, produces wrong results and/or crashes, and you receive apathy and blame dodging instead of tech support and bug fixing. On Sep 14, 3:31 pm, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out:http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/DynamicInt I actually think its more impressive in person. While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and mathematica/ matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated purposes? Or is java an option? -Marshall --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
Also, for the benefit of the students you may possibly be indoctrinating: Please realize that WRI's marketing materials (aka documentation - lol) make it seem like MMA can do anything (and so they might attempt to use MMA in all their later courses - like me - which may not be wise). You could do much worse than teaching them SAGE, because then they would learn the Python language and its libraries, which wouldn't be a bad thing at all. On Sep 14, 6:11 pm, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, I have used mathematica for 17 years and I've pushed it very hard at times. 6.0 seems much buggier than previous releases, but they added and rewrote so much that I am not that surprised. I still think its an amazing accomplishment, and for illustrating basic ideas in calculus I don't think anything matches it. I have submitted bugs to mathematica and gotten no response, so I know what you mean there as well. But I am committed to using and improving sage over the long haul, don't get me wrong. I think the superiority of the development model will win on most fronts eventually. Cheers, Marshall On Sep 14, 5:50 pm, Chris Chiasson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... wait until you actually start pushing Mathematica, it gets sluggish on you, produces wrong results and/or crashes, and you receive apathy and blame dodging instead of tech support and bug fixing. On Sep 14, 3:31 pm, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Recently I started using Mathematica 6 in the computer labs of some courses I teach, and I cannot help but be impressed. The new dynamic commands such as Manipulate are very impressive, and are perfect for teaching. Before seeing how powerful it is, I had hoped to switch from using mathematica to sage in the fall of 2008. But now I am not sure I can justisfy that switch or convince my colleagues it would make sense. (As an aside: assume for the sake of argument that my department gets mathematica for free, which is true in a certain bureaucratic sense). For some sense of what mathematica can now do, check out:http://www.wolfram.com/products/mathematica/newin6/content/DynamicInt I actually think its more impressive in person. While I would like to help remedy the gap between sage and mathematica/ matlab in this respect, I am not sure how it would be done. I am learning a little about wxPython, but I don't think that would work through the notebook at all, unless a program was created on the server for download and byte-compilation by the client. Does anyone have any ideas? If javascript is a possibility, can someone recommend a good reference for learning to use it for such complicated purposes? Or is java an option? -Marshall --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On 9/14/07, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 9/14/07, Hamptonio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: \ Isn't this exactly the sort of thing that javascript/AJAX is good at doing? When you move an html control the server is contacted for the updated output and it is displayed (by directly manipulating the DOM). I'm sure it won't be as snappy as a purely local GUI (e.g., Mathematica), but it will work from anywhere over a web browser, which counts for a lot these days. Well that's why I asked, I am ignorant about javascript/AJAX. Can you suggest a good reference? No, unfortunately I can't, but hopefully someone else can. There are a lot of bookstores in Barnes and Noble about AJAX. It's also how programs like Google Maps, etc., work. It took me quite a while to get my head around AJAX programing. Basically Alex Clemesha and Tom Boothby made a bunch of self-contained examples and gave some takes, and after a while I just got it. That was a while ago and there are probably good books now. I just posted a cleaned-up example of AJAX-twisted.web2-SAGE here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/agc/simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py just getting your hands dirty by messing with examples is best, then go to the books / google and learn about the details of the code. The script above pretty much gives you the simplest possible example of how to combine the technologies that make up the SAGE notebook. There is a tiny README at the top of the file. Good luck with it. Alex William -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
I just posted a cleaned-up example of AJAX-twisted.web2-SAGE here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/agc/simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py just getting your hands dirty by messing with examples is best, then go to the books / google and learn about the details of the code. The script above pretty much gives you the simplest possible example of how to combine the technologies that make up the SAGE notebook. There is a tiny README at the top of the file. Does anyone of you tried AJAX from pypy? http://play1.codespeak.net/ You can write all of your code in Python (resp RPython) and you don't have to mess up with javascript. Some of the demos look cool, but I haven't seen much activity on pypy since March, I hope it's not dead. Ondrej --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On 9/14/07, Ondrej Certik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted a cleaned-up example of AJAX-twisted.web2-SAGE here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/agc/simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py just getting your hands dirty by messing with examples is best, then go to the books / google and learn about the details of the code. The script above pretty much gives you the simplest possible example of how to combine the technologies that make up the SAGE notebook. There is a tiny README at the top of the file. Does anyone of you tried AJAX from pypy? http://play1.codespeak.net/ You can write all of your code in Python (resp RPython) and you don't have to mess up with javascript. Some of the demos look cool, but I haven't seen much activity on pypy since March, I hope it's not dead. I have not seen this before, but from a quick glance is looks like it is like GWT (Google web toolkit), where you write code in Java and it converts it to Javascript. I'm slightly dubious that that is a good way of going about producing Javascript ... but who knows. Instead I think it is much better to use a good javascript library, like the excellent Mochikit library (mochikit.com). Once you have sufficient understanding of how to produce AJAX apps, then you begin to realize the pain (DOM and Event issues, etc) of making those apps work in all the main browsers ... this is where a javascript library comes in. The example I posted above is just for getting your head around what is means to do 'AJAX'. (with twisted.web2 and SAGE thrown in for good measure ;) Alex Ondrej --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Interactive cells, GUIs, javascript, ...
On 9/14/07, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just posted a cleaned-up example of AJAX-twisted.web2-SAGE here: http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/agc/simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py just getting your hands dirty by messing with examples is best, then go to the books / google and learn about the details of the code. The script above pretty much gives you the simplest possible example of how to combine the technologies that make up the SAGE notebook. There is a tiny README at the top of the file. Thanks! Great simple example. For the total newbie, the way to use it is to download simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py to a file on your computer, then type sage -python simple_ajax_twisted_sage.py and follow the directions, i.e. open your browser to localhost:8000. Make sure you aren't already running a sage notebook on that port. I'll put this in the SAGE_ROOT/examples directory so it comes with future versions of SAGE. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://sage.scipy.org/sage/ and http://modular.math.washington.edu/sage/ -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
