Re: [sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
Wrapping a code that we cannot ship makes little sense. I say: if we are going to rewrite it, we better do it as part of the sage library from the beginning. If the license is not clarified soon, that is the path that i would follow. El lunes, 5 de mayo de 2014 14:49:42 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: > > But the worry is that the maintainer has not given his thoughts on the > subject of license. I know re-writing is altogether at a different level > (keeping in mind the extensive results that Braid program provides), but > considering the advantages like total control (rather than wrapping, with > compiler version issues creeping up in between and, easy code maintenance > stand out. Keeping in mind that we are yet to estimate the robustness of > the software (as Nathan, above points comments on this subject) rewriting > would provide greater insight, and if everyone is okay with > re-implementation then we can do it in phases, initially writing wrappers > (temporary basis) for the less important and then partially moving > everything in. These are my thoughts as of now. > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Amit Jamadagni > > > wrote: > >> Yes, with some pointers I guess I can pull it off. But re-writing would >> make it set once for all. That is what I think. >> >> >> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM, mmarco >wrote: >> >>> Amit, how do you feel about that patching? Do you feel capable of doing >>> it? >>> >>> El sábado, 3 de mayo de 2014 22:29:23 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: >>> Hello all, We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. We got introduced to the Braid progamme (http://www.layer8.co.uk/ maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were looking out for Vogel's algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of Braid project it has been written in C++ and has some extensive results pertaining to Braid word representation. It would be great if the community could comment on the issue below: Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the following reasons). We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been shipped. If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining the code]. Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are present ?? " We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked fine using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would work on every system. And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in effective maintenance of the code. So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it would be done in phases. If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we could be notified. If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary period of time). Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. Amit. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "sage-devel" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com . >>> To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com >>> . >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
But the worry is that the maintainer has not given his thoughts on the subject of license. I know re-writing is altogether at a different level (keeping in mind the extensive results that Braid program provides), but considering the advantages like total control (rather than wrapping, with compiler version issues creeping up in between and, easy code maintenance stand out. Keeping in mind that we are yet to estimate the robustness of the software (as Nathan, above points comments on this subject) rewriting would provide greater insight, and if everyone is okay with re-implementation then we can do it in phases, initially writing wrappers (temporary basis) for the less important and then partially moving everything in. These are my thoughts as of now. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Amit Jamadagni wrote: > Yes, with some pointers I guess I can pull it off. But re-writing would > make it set once for all. That is what I think. > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM, mmarco wrote: > >> Amit, how do you feel about that patching? Do you feel capable of doing >> it? >> >> El sábado, 3 de mayo de 2014 22:29:23 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: >> >>> Hello all, >>> We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on >>> the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would >>> like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. >>> We got introduced to the Braid progamme (http://www.layer8.co.uk/ >>> maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were looking out for Vogel's >>> algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of Braid project it has >>> been written in C++ and has some extensive results pertaining to Braid word >>> representation. It would be great if the community could comment on the >>> issue below: >>> >>> Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present >>> code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the >>> idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the >>> following reasons). >>> >>> We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been >>> shipped. >>> >>> If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most >>> important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution >>> (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the >>> project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining >>> the code]. >>> >>> Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are >>> present ?? " >>> We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked >>> fine using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would >>> work on every system. >>> And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in >>> effective maintenance of the code. >>> >>> So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it >>> would be done in phases. >>> >>> If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we >>> could be notified. >>> >>> If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the >>> expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option >>> remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary >>> period of time). >>> >>> Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. >>> >>> Amit. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
Well, we still have the license issue. Without the explicit permission of the author we cannot distribute a derivative work under the GPL. El lunes, 5 de mayo de 2014 14:32:36 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: > > Yes, with some pointers I guess I can pull it off. But re-writing would > make it set once for all. That is what I think. > > > On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM, mmarco >wrote: > >> Amit, how do you feel about that patching? Do you feel capable of doing >> it? >> >> El sábado, 3 de mayo de 2014 22:29:23 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: >> >>> Hello all, >>> We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on >>> the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would >>> like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. >>> We got introduced to the Braid progamme (http://www.layer8.co.uk/ >>> maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were looking out for Vogel's >>> algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of Braid project it has >>> been written in C++ and has some extensive results pertaining to Braid word >>> representation. It would be great if the community could comment on the >>> issue below: >>> >>> Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present >>> code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the >>> idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the >>> following reasons). >>> >>> We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been >>> shipped. >>> >>> If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most >>> important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution >>> (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the >>> project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining >>> the code]. >>> >>> Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are >>> present ?? " >>> We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked >>> fine using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would >>> work on every system. >>> And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in >>> effective maintenance of the code. >>> >>> So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it >>> would be done in phases. >>> >>> If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we >>> could be notified. >>> >>> If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the >>> expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option >>> remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary >>> period of time). >>> >>> Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. >>> >>> Amit. >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "sage-devel" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to sage-devel+...@googlegroups.com . >> To post to this group, send email to sage-...@googlegroups.com >> . >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
Yes, with some pointers I guess I can pull it off. But re-writing would make it set once for all. That is what I think. On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:58 PM, mmarco wrote: > Amit, how do you feel about that patching? Do you feel capable of doing it? > > El sábado, 3 de mayo de 2014 22:29:23 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: > >> Hello all, >> We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on >> the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would >> like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. >> We got introduced to the Braid progamme (http://www.layer8.co.uk/ >> maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were looking out for Vogel's >> algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of Braid project it has >> been written in C++ and has some extensive results pertaining to Braid word >> representation. It would be great if the community could comment on the >> issue below: >> >> Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present >> code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the >> idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the >> following reasons). >> >> We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been >> shipped. >> >> If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most >> important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution >> (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the >> project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining >> the code]. >> >> Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are >> present ?? " >> We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked fine >> using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would work >> on every system. >> And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in >> effective maintenance of the code. >> >> So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it >> would be done in phases. >> >> If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we could >> be notified. >> >> If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the >> expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option >> remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary >> period of time). >> >> Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. >> >> Amit. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sage-devel" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
Amit, how do you feel about that patching? Do you feel capable of doing it? El sábado, 3 de mayo de 2014 22:29:23 UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni escribió: > > Hello all, > We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on > the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would > like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. > We got introduced to the Braid progamme ( > http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were > looking out for Vogel's algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of > Braid project it has been written in C++ and has some extensive results > pertaining to Braid word representation. It would be great if the community > could comment on the issue below: > > Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present > code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the > idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the > following reasons). > > We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been > shipped. > > If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most > important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution > (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the > project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining > the code]. > > Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are > present ?? " > We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked fine > using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would work > on every system. > And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in > effective maintenance of the code. > > So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it > would be done in phases. > > If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we could > be notified. > > If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the > expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option > remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary > period of time). > > Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. > > Amit. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
Hi Marco, On 2014-05-04, mmarco wrote: > That sounds a lot like rewriting it. Why? > El domingo, 4 de mayo de 2014 17:21:21 UTC+2, Volker Braun escribi=C3=B3: >> >> I've actually looked at the code. If we really want to use it we'd really= >> need to turn it into a shared library, strip out debugging code, and=20 >> probably replace the custom bigint library with gmp/mpir. That rather sounds like "patching" to me. Non-trivial patching for sure, but rewriting would be a different level. Best regards, Simon -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
That sounds a lot like rewriting it. El domingo, 4 de mayo de 2014 17:21:21 UTC+2, Volker Braun escribió: > > I've actually looked at the code. If we really want to use it we'd really > need to turn it into a shared library, strip out debugging code, and > probably replace the custom bigint library with gmp/mpir. > > > > On Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:29:23 PM UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni wrote: >> >> Hello all, >> We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on >> the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would >> like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. >> We got introduced to the Braid progamme ( >> http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were >> looking out for Vogel's algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of >> Braid project it has been written in C++ and has some extensive results >> pertaining to Braid word representation. It would be great if the community >> could comment on the issue below: >> >> Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present >> code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the >> idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the >> following reasons). >> >> We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been >> shipped. >> >> If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most >> important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution >> (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the >> project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining >> the code]. >> >> Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are >> present ?? " >> We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked fine >> using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would work >> on every system. >> And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in >> effective maintenance of the code. >> >> So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it >> would be done in phases. >> >> If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we could >> be notified. >> >> If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the >> expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option >> remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary >> period of time). >> >> Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. >> >> Amit. >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
I've actually looked at the code. If we really want to use it we'd really need to turn it into a shared library, strip out debugging code, and probably replace the custom bigint library with gmp/mpir. On Saturday, May 3, 2014 10:29:23 PM UTC+2, Amit Jamadagni wrote: > > Hello all, > We (me under the mentorship of Miguel) have been working on > the implementation of Knot theory in Sage as a part of GSoC 2014 and would > like to hear your thoughts on the following subject. > We got introduced to the Braid progamme ( > http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were > looking out for Vogel's algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of > Braid project it has been written in C++ and has some extensive results > pertaining to Braid word representation. It would be great if the community > could comment on the issue below: > > Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present > code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the > idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the > following reasons). > > We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been > shipped. > > If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most > important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution > (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the > project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining > the code]. > > Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are > present ?? " > We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked fine > using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would work > on every system. > And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in > effective maintenance of the code. > > So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it > would be done in phases. > > If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we could > be notified. > > If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the > expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option > remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary > period of time). > > Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. > > Amit. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
> > Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. > Personally, I would start by stress-testing the code on a variety of inputs to determine it's robustness. If it crashes a lot, there's not much point wrapping it. On the other hand, if it turns out to be bullet-proof, I would recommend against reimplementation absent a compelling reason to do so. As Leif says, the issue of compiling it under a newer version of gcc is a typical problem for C++, and so unless your aiming for a pure Python (or Python + C) implementation, I don't see that as a major issue. I would also do some tests of the code's correctness before making a decision either way. For example, you could take a knot, make a braid, get the DT code, make a knot from that, and then check that the initial and final knot are the same. As long as you stick to hyperbolic knots, SnapPy can easily do the final step. Nathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
leif wrote: Amit Jamadagni wrote: [...] We got introduced to the Braid progamme (http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were looking out for Vogel's algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of Braid project it has been written in C++ and has some extensive results pertaining to Braid word representation. It would be great if the community could comment on the issue below: Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the following reasons). We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been shipped. Yep, even the source tarball lacks any licen[cs]e or copyright information; the only thing I could find is Written by A. Bartholomew, January 2008 - February 2013 in a single file. P.S.: From [1]: [...] This is a spare time activity for me which I do solely for pleasure, for my day job I work as a computer network engineer. [...] If you plan to use any of these programmes, please read the disclaimer and general comments [2] If you find any bugs or errors, please email me at andr...@layer8.co.uk From [2]: All the software and results on this site are provided as is, and in good faith. To the best of my knowledge the code is accurate and the results presented correct, however, if you decide to use these results or software then I accept no responsibility for the consequences of any errors they may contain. Any errors that are reported to me will, in due course, be corrected at this site but no guarantees beyond best endeavours are given. [...] -leif [1] http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/ [2] http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/disclaimer.htm -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: Regarding Braid project and its integration in Sage
Amit Jamadagni wrote: [...] We got introduced to the Braid progamme (http://www.layer8.co.uk/maths/braids/index.htm) project as we were looking out for Vogel's algorithm implementation. Coming to the details of Braid project it has been written in C++ and has some extensive results pertaining to Braid word representation. It would be great if the community could comment on the issue below: Would it be great to rewrite the entire code or just wrap the present code. (This has been posed keeping in mind that the community supports the idea "building the car instead of reinventing the wheel" because of the following reasons). We are yet to know the license on which the above project has been shipped. Yep, even the source tarball lacks any licen[cs]e or copyright information; the only thing I could find is Written by A. Bartholomew, January 2008 - February 2013 in a single file. If the author is happy then we are thinking of re-implementing the most important parts and writing wrappers for the rest as a temporary solution (during the coding period) and then move onto re-implement the rest of the project (after the summer) [The re-implementation would help in maintaining the code]. Some might comment saying " Why to reinvent the wheel if wrappers are present ?? " We had problems compiling the braid project using gcc 4.7, it worked fine using the older versions. So we cannot guarantee that wrappers would work on every system. We could certainly help in making it conform to newer C++ standards; GCC (g++) tends to get "stricter" with each major release. And as mentioned above, re-implementation might help in effective maintenance of the code. Well, contributing changes back upstream would certainly be a better option, provided the licence allows us to redistribute the code (modified or not). -leif So we have come to the conclusion that the code must be rewritten but it would be done in phases. If there could be a better way out, it would be of great help if we could be notified. If it turns out to be negative (in sense the license does not meet the expectations) then re-writing the entire logic would be the only option remaining.(We are losing out on wrappers for some good code for a temporary period of time). Hoping to hear from the community.Thanks. Amit. -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign /\ Help Cure HTML E-Mail -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
