Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-25 Thread Nathann Cohen
> This means that the code of conduct passes, and the SageMath project
> now has an official code of conduct.   If you voted the other way,
> please respect that this is what the majority of people who voted
> want, even if the code isn't perfect.

Perhaps it is now time to share with us who took the initiative of
writing such a code and who participated to its writing ?

You know All Sage files need a "copyright" header with a data and
email, so even if this does not appear on our git server

Nathann

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-25 Thread William Stein
On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 7:49 AM, Viviane Pons  wrote:
> I counted the same.

Thank you.

This means that the code of conduct passes, and the SageMath project
now has an official code of conduct.   If you voted the other way,
please respect that this is what the majority of people who voted
want, even if the code isn't perfect.

This vote was extremely close.  I kept the voting simple and
consistent with how we've done all past votes, rather than using a
more complicated voting system, since I didn't want to make even the
voting process itself contentious.  For those who feel the stated code
should be rewritten/modified/rethought, etc., I encourage you to work
on this.  If there is a new proposal, we can certainly vote on it
later.

 -- William

>> I just counted and I get:
>>
>> [x] Yes -- got 19 votes
>> [x] No -- got 15 votes + 2 late votes
>>
>> Can somebody count and confirm this?
>>
>>  -- William
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
>> > On 2014-11-23, William Stein  wrote:
>> >> Hello Sage Developers,
>> >>
>> >> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of
>> >> conduct.  I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST.  (If the vote
>> >> is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple
>> >> majority for this to pass.)   Any member of the sage-devel mailing
>> >> list may vote or abstain.I will delete any messages in this thread
>> >> that is not a vote -- if you want to make further arguments for or
>> >> against, do so elsewhere.
>> >>
>> >  [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below
>> >
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-25 Thread Viviane Pons
I counted the same.

Cheers,

Viviane

2014-11-25 16:33 GMT+01:00 William Stein :

> Hi,
>
> I just counted and I get:
>
> [x] Yes -- got 19 votes
> [x] No -- got 15 votes + 2 late votes
>
> Can somebody count and confirm this?
>
>  -- William
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
> > On 2014-11-23, William Stein  wrote:
> >> Hello Sage Developers,
> >>
> >> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of
> >> conduct.  I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST.  (If the vote
> >> is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple
> >> majority for this to pass.)   Any member of the sage-devel mailing
> >> list may vote or abstain.I will delete any messages in this thread
> >> that is not a vote -- if you want to make further arguments for or
> >> against, do so elsewhere.
> >>
> >  [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below
> >
> > Dima
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-25 Thread William Stein
Hi,

I just counted and I get:

[x] Yes -- got 19 votes
[x] No -- got 15 votes + 2 late votes

Can somebody count and confirm this?

 -- William


On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 6:15 AM, Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
> On 2014-11-23, William Stein  wrote:
>> Hello Sage Developers,
>>
>> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of
>> conduct.  I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST.  (If the vote
>> is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple
>> majority for this to pass.)   Any member of the sage-devel mailing
>> list may vote or abstain.I will delete any messages in this thread
>> that is not a vote -- if you want to make further arguments for or
>> against, do so elsewhere.
>>
>  [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below
>
> Dima
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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-25 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On 2014-11-23, William Stein  wrote:
> Hello Sage Developers,
>
> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of
> conduct.  I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST.  (If the vote
> is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple
> majority for this to pass.)   Any member of the sage-devel mailing
> list may vote or abstain.I will delete any messages in this thread
> that is not a vote -- if you want to make further arguments for or
> against, do so elsewhere.
>
 [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-25 Thread Samuel Lelievre
[x ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below 

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Robert Bradshaw
[ X ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

I also share some of the sentiments of Thierry.

On Mon, Nov 24, 2014 at 4:29 PM, john_perry_usm  wrote:
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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread john_perry_usm
[ X ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Ursula Whitcher
[x ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*)

UAW

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Vincent Knight
[X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 

Thanks,
Vince

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Franco Saliola

[X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*)

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread Mike Zabrocki
[X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread chris wuthrich

[X ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below 

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-24 Thread mmarco
[X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Bruno Grenet
[X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

Bruno

2014-11-24 2:26 GMT+01:00 Robert Dodier :

> On 2014-11-23, William Stein  wrote:
>
> > [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below
>
> best
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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Robert Dodier
On 2014-11-23, William Stein  wrote:

> [X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

best

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Anne Schilling
[X ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Ben Salisbury


> [X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 
>
> [ ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Luca De Feo


> [X ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 
>

Luca
 

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Georg S. Weber
[ X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct 

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Andrew
[X ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Hartmut Monien
[X ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 

On Sunday, November 23, 2014 1:48:16 AM UTC+1, William wrote:
>
> Hello Sage Developers, 
>
> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of 
> conduct.  I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST.  (If the vote 
> is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple 
> majority for this to pass.)   Any member of the sage-devel mailing 
> list may vote or abstain.I will delete any messages in this thread 
> that is not a vote -- if you want to make further arguments for or 
> against, do so elsewhere. 
>
> [ ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 
>
> [ ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below 
>
> Thanks!   Note, I am not going to vote either way, but I will strongly 
> support whatever the community decides. 
>
> Code of Conduct 
> --- 
>
> The Sage community is comprised of an international mixture of 
> mathematicians, computer scientists, engineers, researchers, teachers, 
> amateurs, and others with varied backgrounds. This diversity is one of 
> our strengths, but it can also lead to communication problems and 
> unhappiness. People who love working on Sage can more effectively 
> collaborate with others if they follow this code. 
>
> If you believe someone is violating the code of conduct, we ask that 
> you report it by emailing sage-...@googlegroups.com . The 
> group 
> administrators will consider the issue and explore resolutions. [See 
> note below.] It is also possible to move heated discussions to the 
> mailing list sage-...@googlegroups.com . 
>
> 1)   Be friendly and patient. 
>
> 2)   Be welcoming. We strive to be a community that welcomes and 
> supports people of all backgrounds and identities. 
>
> 3)   Be considerate. Your work will be used by other people and you in 
> turn will depend on the work of others. Any decision you take will 
> affect users and developers, so you should take those consequences 
> into account when making decisions. Conversely, Sage is constantly 
> evolving, and earlier decisions that were made in good faith may 
> sometimes need to be reconsidered. Nonetheless, we should still 
> appreciate the hard work done in the past. 
>
> 4)   Be respectful and polite. Not all of us will agree all the time, 
> but disagreement is no excuse for poor behavior and poor manners. We 
> might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot 
> allow that frustration to morph into personal attacks. It is important 
> to remember that a community where people feel uncomfortable or 
> threatened is not a productive one. Members of the Sage community 
> should be respectful when dealing with other developers and users. 
>
> When we disagree, we should try to understand why. Disagreements, both 
> social and technical, happen all the time. It is important that we 
> resolve disagreements and differing views constructively. Being unable 
> to understand why someone holds a viewpoint does not mean that they 
> are wrong. Do not forget that it is human to err. Blame alone gets us 
> nowhere, it is better to help resolve issues so we can all learn from 
> our mistakes. 
>
> --- 
>
> NOTE: There were questions on the list about who exactly would deal 
> with sage-abuse complaints and how.  If you do not trust that we Sage 
> developers can responsibly select people to be on that list, and that 
> those members can find ways to sort out issues on a case-by-case 
> basis, then you may vote "no" to this proposal.We are mostly not 
> lawyers or politicians and are not going to make things more precise 
> in this code regarding composition of the group or specific sanctions. 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Martin Raum
[X] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below

Am Sonntag, 23. November 2014 01:48:16 UTC+1 schrieb William:
>
> Hello Sage Developers, 
>
> This is a simple majority vote for the original proposed code of 
> conduct.  I will close voting on Monday at midnight PST.  (If the vote 
> is an exact tie, then that means "No" - there must be a simple 
> majority for this to pass.)   Any member of the sage-devel mailing 
> list may vote or abstain.I will delete any messages in this thread 
> that is not a vote -- if you want to make further arguments for or 
> against, do so elsewhere. 
>
> [ ] Yes -- adopt the code of conduct stated below (*) 
>
> [ ] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below 
>
> Thanks!   Note, I am not going to vote either way, but I will strongly 
> support whatever the community decides. 
>
> Code of Conduct 
> --- 
>
> The Sage community is comprised of an international mixture of 
> mathematicians, computer scientists, engineers, researchers, teachers, 
> amateurs, and others with varied backgrounds. This diversity is one of 
> our strengths, but it can also lead to communication problems and 
> unhappiness. People who love working on Sage can more effectively 
> collaborate with others if they follow this code. 
>
> If you believe someone is violating the code of conduct, we ask that 
> you report it by emailing sage-...@googlegroups.com . The 
> group 
> administrators will consider the issue and explore resolutions. [See 
> note below.] It is also possible to move heated discussions to the 
> mailing list sage-...@googlegroups.com . 
>
> 1)   Be friendly and patient. 
>
> 2)   Be welcoming. We strive to be a community that welcomes and 
> supports people of all backgrounds and identities. 
>
> 3)   Be considerate. Your work will be used by other people and you in 
> turn will depend on the work of others. Any decision you take will 
> affect users and developers, so you should take those consequences 
> into account when making decisions. Conversely, Sage is constantly 
> evolving, and earlier decisions that were made in good faith may 
> sometimes need to be reconsidered. Nonetheless, we should still 
> appreciate the hard work done in the past. 
>
> 4)   Be respectful and polite. Not all of us will agree all the time, 
> but disagreement is no excuse for poor behavior and poor manners. We 
> might all experience some frustration now and then, but we cannot 
> allow that frustration to morph into personal attacks. It is important 
> to remember that a community where people feel uncomfortable or 
> threatened is not a productive one. Members of the Sage community 
> should be respectful when dealing with other developers and users. 
>
> When we disagree, we should try to understand why. Disagreements, both 
> social and technical, happen all the time. It is important that we 
> resolve disagreements and differing views constructively. Being unable 
> to understand why someone holds a viewpoint does not mean that they 
> are wrong. Do not forget that it is human to err. Blame alone gets us 
> nowhere, it is better to help resolve issues so we can all learn from 
> our mistakes. 
>
> --- 
>
> NOTE: There were questions on the list about who exactly would deal 
> with sage-abuse complaints and how.  If you do not trust that we Sage 
> developers can responsibly select people to be on that list, and that 
> those members can find ways to sort out issues on a case-by-case 
> basis, then you may vote "no" to this proposal.We are mostly not 
> lawyers or politicians and are not going to make things more precise 
> in this code regarding composition of the group or specific sanctions. 
>

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-23 Thread Ralf Stephan
[X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

Regards,

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-22 Thread Simon King

[X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below

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[sage-devel] Re: VOTE: code of conduct - ends Monday at midnight, PST.

2014-11-22 Thread Andrey Novoseltsev
[X] No -- do not adopt the code of conduct stated below 

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