Re: [sage-devel] Re: algdep (PARI) with clang on FreeBSD

2017-03-30 Thread Vincent Delecroix

On 30/03/2017 11:33, Thierry wrote:

Hi,

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:20:21AM +0200, Marc Mezzarobba wrote:

Thierry wrote:

I do not remember where i read that (correct me if i am wrong, or
provide a reference if you know where it is), but RDF is supposed to
round towards the nearest floating-point number.


RR is, but I think RDF may or may not provide correct rounding depending
what the underlying libm does.


I found the reference i was looking for :
http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/rings_numerical/sage/rings/real_double.html#sage.rings.real_double.RealDoubleElement.ulp

So, if this depends on libm, i guess this should be updated and we should
provide a way to know/modify the current rounding mode ?


You can obtain and modify the CPU rounding mode using the C functions 
declared in fenv.h


int FE_TONEAREST
int FE_UPWARD
int FE_DOWNWARD
int FE_TOWARDZERO
int fegetround ()
int fesetround (int)

(there is an example in src/sage/graphs/base/static_sparse_graph.pyx)

However, this go beyond libm and will affect any library using floating 
point numbers.


Vincent

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: algdep (PARI) with clang on FreeBSD

2017-03-30 Thread Thierry
Hi,

On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 10:20:21AM +0200, Marc Mezzarobba wrote:
> Thierry wrote:
> > I do not remember where i read that (correct me if i am wrong, or
> > provide a reference if you know where it is), but RDF is supposed to
> > round towards the nearest floating-point number.
> 
> RR is, but I think RDF may or may not provide correct rounding depending 
> what the underlying libm does.

I found the reference i was looking for :
http://doc.sagemath.org/html/en/reference/rings_numerical/sage/rings/real_double.html#sage.rings.real_double.RealDoubleElement.ulp

So, if this depends on libm, i guess this should be updated and we should
provide a way to know/modify the current rounding mode ?

Ciao,
Thierry



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[sage-devel] Re: algdep (PARI) with clang on FreeBSD

2017-03-30 Thread Marc Mezzarobba
Thierry wrote:
> I do not remember where i read that (correct me if i am wrong, or
> provide a reference if you know where it is), but RDF is supposed to
> round towards the nearest floating-point number.

RR is, but I think RDF may or may not provide correct rounding depending 
what the underlying libm does.

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Marc

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