Re: [sage-devel] Re: mailing list administration
> Should we start a process of nominating/electing moderators? Before that, we should decide what the process is. That's something that might be complicated to do via email (remember what happened with the code of conduct). In my opinion, a Sage Days completely dedicated to this kind of issues would be a better venue to have this kind of discussion, provided we manage to get enough people to come. > What did just happen to MariaDB? (I am asking as I have no glue what you > speak about; Google brings up something, but this all seems not relate > with your "just".) http://www.infoworld.com/article/3109213/open-source-tools/open-source-uproar-as-mariadb-goes-commercial.html But see also: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/08/24/monty_interview/ Luca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Re: [sage-devel] Re: mailing list administration
On 2016-08-25 10:01, Luca De Feo wrote: > [...] Even though you do not have the power to do the same with Sage > as what just happened with MariaDB [...] What did just happen to MariaDB? (I am asking as I have no glue what you speak about; Google brings up something, but this all seems not relate with your "just".) Daniel -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: mailing list administration
On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:01:54 AM UTC+1, Luca De Feo wrote: > > > I deleted it as flame bait. I'm sick of people using sage-devel as a > > forum to attack others > > I'm sick of it too. But this kind of unilateral actions only fuels the > flame, it does not extinguish it. > > Especially given your position as a CEO of a for profit company, William. > Even though you do not have the power to do the same with Sage as what just > happened with MariaDB, the community is entitled with a legitimate > (unfounded, I believe) fear of SageMath Inc. trying to do something similar > at some point. This kind of unilateral censorship, although well > intentioned, can only spark more of those flames. > Removing obvious flamebaits and spam really should not require a long consultation process. (Censorship is a different story; while there cannot be a clear border between a flamebait and a good argument; intentional misquoting, as in the case we are talking about, does qualify as an obvious flamebait, IMHO) Having said that, I would like to see a more regular setup on "official" sagemath googlegroups; more people should be able to moderate posts/posters. Repeated posting of flamebaits or/and other obviously damaging things should result in placing the poster under moderation (i.e. posts by this posters are held in a moderation queue, and released only upon moderator's approval). Should we start a process of nominating/electing moderators? Dima > > Any long lived community on the net has moderators, be they elected or > co-opted. No one moderator takes this kind of decisions alone. Can we try, > once again, to start a process to become a well behaved community? There is > no shortage of very good examples of well behaved, long lived, FOSS > communities. Think Debian, think Software carpentry, ... > > Luca > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
[sage-devel] Re: mailing list administration
> I deleted it as flame bait. I'm sick of people using sage-devel as a > forum to attack others I'm sick of it too. But this kind of unilateral actions only fuels the flame, it does not extinguish it. Especially given your position as a CEO of a for profit company, William. Even though you do not have the power to do the same with Sage as what just happened with MariaDB, the community is entitled with a legitimate (unfounded, I believe) fear of SageMath Inc. trying to do something similar at some point. This kind of unilateral censorship, although well intentioned, can only spark more of those flames. Any long lived community on the net has moderators, be they elected or co-opted. No one moderator takes this kind of decisions alone. Can we try, once again, to start a process to become a well behaved community? There is no shortage of very good examples of well behaved, long lived, FOSS communities. Think Debian, think Software carpentry, ... Luca -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sage-devel" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
