Re: [sage-devel] math software and China
May be software piracy is not the problem (or there are other problems). Consider for example scilab, which is a free replacement for Matlab (at least partially): it has a huge success in China, even if it is very easy to get non official versions of matlab for only some Yuans. But Scilab is quite an official software in China, with software contests for students! Have a look at this: http://www.scilab.org.cn/ Le 21/01/2014 15:06, John Cremona a écrit : I do know someone in Beiljing who does want to run a Sage Days -- there was a posting to this list a few months ago. He is Zhibin Liang and did a number theory PhD in Cambridge (UK) not long ago. If China has such huge resource then surely someone there could run a Sage notebook server. Are they somehow asking for someone outside China to provide one which can be used from China? Surely any open Sage server could be used from there? John On 21 January 2014 13:53, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Strange subject line, right? But read this post from ask.sagemath: +++ thank you very much! better a notebook servers to China,there are at least 600.000.000 people in internet. many kinds of Python books in China bookstore,but no many people deeply study it. in China,many people use mathematica,because mathematica 9.01 and maple 17 is free download every where magma 2.15 free download in China. in China nobody and no college pay magma V2.20,if pay one times,magma V2.20 will be free downloaded all China in China,95/100 windows OS are free downloaded,no pay a cent to Bill_gate +++ Well, I guess the situation with respect to software piracy in China (and presumably elsewhere) is well-known. I especially find the quote about Magma v2.20 interesting. Anyway, what are the implications of this for Sage - even the cloud? I have no prediction, but it seems pretty important. Certainly one issue this same poster has mentioned before is that the Great Firewall causes problems (see William and cjsh's brief conversation at http://ask.sagemath.org/question/3227/ ). So I think that this is worth discussing, especially if an entire huge country is essentially committed to proprietary software because it doesn't function in a proprietary way there; it makes some practical arguments for open source rather less compelling. Are there any researchers thinking of planning a Sage Days in the PRC? That would be really ground-breaking. - kcrisman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. attachment: tdumont.vcf
[sage-devel] math software and China
Strange subject line, right? But read this post from ask.sagemath: +++ thank you very much! better a notebook servers to China,there are at least 600.000.000 people in internet. many kinds of Python books in China bookstore,but no many people deeply study it. in China,many people use mathematica,because mathematica 9.01 and maple 17 is free download every where magma 2.15 free download in China. in China nobody and no college pay magma V2.20,if pay one times,magma V2.20 will be free downloaded all China in China,95/100 windows OS are free downloaded,no pay a cent to Bill_gate +++ Well, I guess the situation with respect to software piracy in China (and presumably elsewhere) is well-known. I especially find the quote about Magma v2.20 interesting. Anyway, what are the implications of this for Sage - even the cloud? I have no prediction, but it seems pretty important. Certainly one issue this same poster has mentioned before is that the Great Firewall causes problems (see William and cjsh's brief conversation at http://ask.sagemath.org/question/3227/ ). So I think that this is worth discussing, especially if an entire huge country is essentially committed to proprietary software because it doesn't function in a proprietary way there; it makes some practical arguments for open source rather less compelling. Are there any researchers thinking of planning a Sage Days in the PRC? That would be really ground-breaking. - kcrisman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] math software and China
I do know someone in Beiljing who does want to run a Sage Days -- there was a posting to this list a few months ago. He is Zhibin Liang and did a number theory PhD in Cambridge (UK) not long ago. If China has such huge resource then surely someone there could run a Sage notebook server. Are they somehow asking for someone outside China to provide one which can be used from China? Surely any open Sage server could be used from there? John On 21 January 2014 13:53, kcrisman kcris...@gmail.com wrote: Strange subject line, right? But read this post from ask.sagemath: +++ thank you very much! better a notebook servers to China,there are at least 600.000.000 people in internet. many kinds of Python books in China bookstore,but no many people deeply study it. in China,many people use mathematica,because mathematica 9.01 and maple 17 is free download every where magma 2.15 free download in China. in China nobody and no college pay magma V2.20,if pay one times,magma V2.20 will be free downloaded all China in China,95/100 windows OS are free downloaded,no pay a cent to Bill_gate +++ Well, I guess the situation with respect to software piracy in China (and presumably elsewhere) is well-known. I especially find the quote about Magma v2.20 interesting. Anyway, what are the implications of this for Sage - even the cloud? I have no prediction, but it seems pretty important. Certainly one issue this same poster has mentioned before is that the Great Firewall causes problems (see William and cjsh's brief conversation at http://ask.sagemath.org/question/3227/ ). So I think that this is worth discussing, especially if an entire huge country is essentially committed to proprietary software because it doesn't function in a proprietary way there; it makes some practical arguments for open source rather less compelling. Are there any researchers thinking of planning a Sage Days in the PRC? That would be really ground-breaking. - kcrisman -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [sage-devel] math software and China
If China has such huge resource then surely someone there could run a Sage notebook server. Are they somehow asking for someone outside China to provide one which can be used from China? Surely any open Sage server could be used from there? I think that the point is that sometime Internet to outside China is not as reliable, and perhaps the poster doesn't have the technical know-how or permissions to run such a server. I agree it is ambiguous. The poster also complained about not being able to use certain North American servers - well, those servers are restricted to on-campus use, as far as I know! Or something like that. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups sage-devel group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sage-devel+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
