Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread William Stein
On Monday, July 12, 2010, kcrisman  wrote:
>
>
>> This would be a good reason for us to setup a separate trac server for
>> the notebook. It's tempting.  There's probably also a way to make it
>> so
>>
>>  http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_notebook
>>
>> is a trac just for the notebook.
>
> However, at the very least one would want to have intense integration
> between this and Sage's trac.  What if something at this new Trac
> needed to include a Sage library patch that affected someone who
> doesn't develop on the notebook?  Also, I see the potential for even
> more balkanization when it comes to the notebook.

Separating the notebook from sage is by far the best chance we have to
reduce the number of different competing notebook projects.  The less
tight the integration with sage the better for this



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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread Robert Miller
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, David Kirkby  wrote:
> On 12 July 2010 09:05, William Stein  wrote:
>
>>  http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_notebook
>>
>> is a trac just for the notebook.
>
> It's a broken link for me.

It was a hypothetical link for everyone.

>
> Dave
>



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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread Robert Miller
> So you and William are interpreting this differently.

Dave,

I think you'll find that William and I have the same opinion about
closing tickets -- you're unfortunately trying to absolutely
generalize what I'm saying. You haven't caused any trouble by closing
tickets, but it is very easy for many people to do so. Every rule has
its exceptions, but the case in point is not a valid exception.

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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread David Kirkby
On 12 July 2010 09:05, William Stein  wrote:

>  http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_notebook
>
> is a trac just for the notebook.

It's a broken link for me.

Dave

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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread David Kirkby
On 12 July 2010 08:58, Robert Miller  wrote:
> I'd just like to remind everyone:
>
> Only the release manager should close tickets.
>
> Tim Dumol has closed #7379, even though there was a sage library patch
> there which needed to be merged. This is causing 4.5.rc0 to fail in
> much worse ways than it should.
>
> If you close tickets yourself you may be publicly shamed on
> sage-devel! You have been warned!!!
>
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Strange, because only a few weeks ago I asked someone to close a
ticket and William responded with this below.

http://groups.google.co.uk/group/sage-devel/browse_thread/thread/6779afed2bb7622a/05b81c29bf13ddf8?lnk=gst&q=close+tickets#05b81c29bf13ddf8

So you and William are interpreting this differently.

Dave

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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread Robert Miller
> This would be a good reason for us to setup a separate trac server for
> the notebook.

I was thinking the same exact thing!

+1

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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread William Stein
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Tim Joseph Dumol  wrote:
> I'm copying my reply to the Sage 4.5.rc0 thread:
>
> Sorry! I was last informed that I could close notebook tickets that
> are merged in a SageNB release.

This would be a good reason for us to setup a separate trac server for
the notebook. It's tempting.  There's probably also a way to make it
so

  http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_notebook

is a trac just for the notebook.

> Since you closed #9430 (SageNB 0.8.1)
> and said that it was merged in 4.5.rc0, I assumed that the Sage
> library patch at #7379 was merged as well, since the ticket
> description at #9430 notes that #7379 is to be merged with #9430.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Robert Miller  wrote:
>> I'd just like to remind everyone:
>>
>> Only the release manager should close tickets.
>>
>> Tim Dumol has closed #7379, even though there was a sage library patch
>> there which needed to be merged. This is causing 4.5.rc0 to fail in
>> much worse ways than it should.
>>
>> If you close tickets yourself you may be publicly shamed on
>> sage-devel! You have been warned!!!
>>
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Re: [sage-devel] Do not close tickets

2010-07-12 Thread Tim Joseph Dumol
I'm copying my reply to the Sage 4.5.rc0 thread:

Sorry! I was last informed that I could close notebook tickets that
are merged in a SageNB release. Since you closed #9430 (SageNB 0.8.1)
and said that it was merged in 4.5.rc0, I assumed that the Sage
library patch at #7379 was merged as well, since the ticket
description at #9430 notes that #7379 is to be merged with #9430.


On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:58 PM, Robert Miller  wrote:
> I'd just like to remind everyone:
>
> Only the release manager should close tickets.
>
> Tim Dumol has closed #7379, even though there was a sage library patch
> there which needed to be merged. This is causing 4.5.rc0 to fail in
> much worse ways than it should.
>
> If you close tickets yourself you may be publicly shamed on
> sage-devel! You have been warned!!!
>
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