Re: [sage-devel] Re: a sage bug

2015-07-13 Thread Dima Pasechnik


On Monday, 13 July 2015 11:08:02 UTC+1, Simon King wrote:
>
> Hi Volker, 
>
> On 2015-07-13, Volker Braun > wrote: 
> > You can use tor (https://www.torproject.org) to access the entire 
> internet 
> > or gmane (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel) 
> > specifically for sage-devel. 
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if they blocked tor, too (and of course anybody 
> who uses tor automatically becomes suspect). And I have seen at several 
> European and US-American universities that the web is configured in such 
> a way that using gmane via slrn doesn't work (but I don't know if they 
> just block slrn or also block using gmane in a web browser). 
>
> I have only seen NNTP port (119) blocked (the one needed by the classical 
Usenet readers such as slrn).  And this is mostly out of ignorance - I 
managed a couple of times to get it open just by emailing sysadmins.

Best regards, 
> Simon 
>
>

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: a sage bug

2015-07-13 Thread Volker Braun
Tor works in China (you might have to manually configure a bridge 
https://bridges.torproject.org). It also works great for circumventing 
censorship by European and American universities for that matter.



On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 12:08:02 PM UTC+2, Simon King wrote:
>
> Hi Volker, 
>
> On 2015-07-13, Volker Braun > wrote: 
> > You can use tor (https://www.torproject.org) to access the entire 
> internet 
> > or gmane (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel) 
> > specifically for sage-devel. 
>
> I wouldn't be surprised if they blocked tor, too (and of course anybody 
> who uses tor automatically becomes suspect). And I have seen at several 
> European and US-American universities that the web is configured in such 
> a way that using gmane via slrn doesn't work (but I don't know if they 
> just block slrn or also block using gmane in a web browser). 
>
> Best regards, 
> Simon 
>
>

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Re: [sage-devel] Re: a sage bug

2015-07-13 Thread Volker Braun
You can use tor (https://www.torproject.org) to access the entire internet 
or gmane (http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.mathematics.sage.devel) 
specifically for sage-devel.

Realistically, the Chinese government is always going to block mass 
communication utilities that are not under their control; So if gmane is 
not blocked then thats only because they are too small to be noticed.





On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 11:39:20 PM UTC+2, William wrote:
>
> Thanks Ralf! 
>
> By the way, does anybody know what the deal is with: "Please forgive 
> me to send it to you for I am in China and have a problem to access 
> Google groups." 
>
> Do most people in China really not have access to Google groups?  If 
> so, that's a very good reason for us to consider at least some sort of 
> alternative way to access the groups. 
>
>  -- William 
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Ralf Stephan  > wrote: 
> > On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 2:34:56 PM UTC+2, Stein William wrote: 
> >> -- Forwarded message -- 
> >> From: ruiming zhang  
> >> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2015 
> >> Subject: a sage bug 
> >> To: wst...@math.washington.edu 
> >> 
> >> ... 
> >> e=x+1<=x-2 
> >> e*(-1) 
> >> -x-1<=-x+2, 
> > 
> > This is known and has a fix. Only the review is missing. 
> > 
> > If someone wants to review the fix, please see this ticket: 
> > http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/7660 
> > 
> > Regards, 
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: a sage bug

2015-07-12 Thread David Roe
> By the way, does anybody know what the deal is with: "Please forgive
> me to send it to you for I am in China and have a problem to access
> Google groups."
>
> Do most people in China really not have access to Google groups?  If
> so, that's a very good reason for us to consider at least some sort of
> alternative way to access the groups.

Yes, google groups are blocked by the Great Firewall.
David
>
>  -- William
>
> On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Ralf Stephan  wrote:
>> On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 2:34:56 PM UTC+2, Stein William wrote:
>>> -- Forwarded message --
>>> From: ruiming zhang 
>>> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2015
>>> Subject: a sage bug
>>> To: wst...@math.washington.edu
>>>
>>> ...
>>> e=x+1<=x-2
>>> e*(-1)
>>> -x-1<=-x+2,
>>
>> This is known and has a fix. Only the review is missing.
>>
>> If someone wants to review the fix, please see this ticket:
>> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/7660
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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Re: [sage-devel] Re: a sage bug

2015-07-12 Thread William Stein
Thanks Ralf!

By the way, does anybody know what the deal is with: "Please forgive
me to send it to you for I am in China and have a problem to access
Google groups."

Do most people in China really not have access to Google groups?  If
so, that's a very good reason for us to consider at least some sort of
alternative way to access the groups.

 -- William

On Sun, Jul 12, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Ralf Stephan  wrote:
> On Sunday, July 12, 2015 at 2:34:56 PM UTC+2, Stein William wrote:
>> -- Forwarded message --
>> From: ruiming zhang 
>> Date: Sunday, July 12, 2015
>> Subject: a sage bug
>> To: wst...@math.washington.edu
>>
>> ...
>> e=x+1<=x-2
>> e*(-1)
>> -x-1<=-x+2,
>
> This is known and has a fix. Only the review is missing.
>
> If someone wants to review the fix, please see this ticket:
> http://trac.sagemath.org/ticket/7660
>
> Regards,
>
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