[sage-support] Create function that when evaluated performs numerical integration

2008-07-09 Thread gregum

Hi,

I'm trying to do something that I think should be simple based on my
experience with Mathematica, but I have been unsuccessful doing it in
Sage.  I've searched around quite a bit, but I can't find any
examples.  Basically, I'm defining a function that isn't a nice closed
form function (below it's called g).  In this case it is defined as a
Laplace integral.  I just want Sage to evaluate it (approximate it) at
particular values that I stick in.

var('x,s')

f(x) = 1/(x+1)^2

g(s) = f.laplace(x,s)
g
  s |--> laplace(1/(x + 1)^2, x, s)

# this is ok, but I want a numerical approximation
g(10)
   laplace(1/(x + 1)^2, x, 10)

# let me try to get the numerical approximation
g(10).n()
TypeError: unable to coerce '?%laplace(1/(x+1)^2,x,10)' to float

How can I get around this?  Or am I just thinking about all this the
wrong way?

Thank you in advance!

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[sage-support] Re: solve doesn't always solve

2008-07-09 Thread Stan Schymanski

Hi Mike,

Thanks for your feedback. Pity, I thought I omitted something obvious.

For some reason, Mathematica and Maple seem to do better at solving
such equations, even though the results can become a bit convoluted.
Sometimes, SAGE manages to solve an equation if it is re-formulated in
a different way, but this is more a trial and error process. It would
be good if SAGE gave a warning in the case that it didn't manage to
solve an equation, otherwise one thinks the output is the solution and
only realises later that the variable to be solved for still appears
in the output.

Do you know if anyone is working on the solver in sage or is it all
done by maxima?

Cheers
Stan
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[sage-support] code for p adic L function

2008-07-09 Thread chan

Hi,
I downloaded the windows binary.
Is there a way of looking at the code for computing
the p adic L function of an elliptic curve, modular symbols etc.
Thanks
chan

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[sage-support] Re: solve doesn't always solve

2008-07-09 Thread William Stein

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 4:21 AM, Stan Schymanski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Thanks for your feedback. Pity, I thought I omitted something obvious.
>
> For some reason, Mathematica and Maple seem to do better at solving
> such equations, even though the results can become a bit convoluted.
> Sometimes, SAGE manages to solve an equation if it is re-formulated in
> a different way, but this is more a trial and error process. It would
> be good if SAGE gave a warning in the case that it didn't manage to
> solve an equation, otherwise one thinks the output is the solution and
> only realises later that the variable to be solved for still appears
> in the output.
>
> Do you know if anyone is working on the solver in sage or is it all
> done by maxima?
>

It is all done by Maxima.  Hopefully someday it will all be done
by Sage and will implement more sophisticated algorithms (e.g.,
very powerful linear algebra algorithms in some cases, much
better than anything that is likely to be in maxima; much more
poweful multivariate polynomial algorithms in some cases
via Groebner basis, etc.).  Nobody is currently working on this
though.

William

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[sage-support] RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread kex

KUBUNTU 8.04.1 64-bit
KDE 4
SAGE 3.03

Sage source was compiled as should without errors
Starting sage works fine
Running notebook() fails with error:  RuntimeError: no available port
First it scans from port 8000 to 8050 and fails to find a free port
The rest i dont understand.

I tried to run as root and the same happens.
I tried to find a topic for my problem but couldnt.
I am downloading a binary version to check if it gives me the same
error.
I also tried to update sage with ./sage -upgrade but it doesnt solve
anything

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./Programs/Sage/sage
--
| SAGE Version 3.0.3, Release Date: 2008-06-17   |
| Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.|
--

sage: notebook()
The notebook files are stored in: /home/boris/.sage//sage_notebook
Port 8000 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8001 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8002 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8003 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8004 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8005 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8006 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8007 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8008 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8009 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8010 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8011 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8012 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8013 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8014 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8015 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8016 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8017 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8018 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8019 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8020 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8021 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8022 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8023 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8024 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8025 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8026 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8027 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8028 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8029 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8030 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8031 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8032 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8033 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8034 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8035 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8036 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8037 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8038 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8039 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8040 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8041 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8042 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8043 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8044 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8045 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8046 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8047 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8048 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8049 is already in use.
Trying next port...
Port 8050 is already in use.
Trying next port...
---
RuntimeError  Traceback (most recent call
last)

/home/boris/.sage/ in ()

/home/boris/Programs/Sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/
server/notebook/notebook_object.py in __call__(self, *args, **kwds)
141 """
142 def __call__(self, *args, **kwds):
--> 143 return self.notebook(*args, **kwds)
144
145 notebook = run_notebook.notebook_twisted

/home/boris/Programs/Sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/
server/notebook/run_notebook.py in notebook_twisted(self, directory,
port, address, port_tries, secure, reset, accounts, require_login,
server_pool, ulimit, timeout, open_viewer, sagetex_path, start_path,
fork, quiet)
264 print "*"*70
265
--> 266 port = find_next_available_port(port, port_tries)
267 #if open_viewer:
268 #open_page(address, port, secure, pause=PAUSE)

/home/boris/Programs/Sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/
server/misc.py in find_next_available_port(start, max_tries, verbose)
 99 print "Port %s is already in use."%port
100 print "Trying next port..."
--> 101 raise RuntimeError, "no available port."
102
103

RuntimeError: no available port.
sage:

Is there a way to manualy change port to a value range not between
8000-8050
Help appriciated

Boris

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[sage-support] Re: code for p adic L function

2008-07-09 Thread William Stein

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 5:05 AM, chan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I downloaded the windows binary.
> Is there a way of looking at the code for computing
> the p adic L function of an elliptic curve, modular symbols etc.


Yes.  You might want to just browse it hee:

http://www.sagemath.org/hg/sage-main/file/c25e04ebfb67/sage/

In particular, see

http://www.sagemath.org/hg/sage-main/file/c25e04ebfb67/sage/schemes/elliptic_curves/

and

http://www.sagemath.org/hg/sage-main/file/c25e04ebfb67/sage/modular/

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[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread Timothy Clemans

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 7:51 AM, kex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> KUBUNTU 8.04.1 64-bit
> KDE 4
> SAGE 3.03
>
> Sage source was compiled as should without errors
> Starting sage works fine
> Running notebook() fails with error:  RuntimeError: no available port
> First it scans from port 8000 to 8050 and fails to find a free port
> The rest i dont understand.
>
> I tried to run as root and the same happens.
> I tried to find a topic for my problem but couldnt.
> I am downloading a binary version to check if it gives me the same
> error.
> I also tried to update sage with ./sage -upgrade but it doesnt solve
> anything
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ ./Programs/Sage/sage
> --
> | SAGE Version 3.0.3, Release Date: 2008-06-17   |
> | Type notebook() for the GUI, and license() for information.|
> --
>
> sage: notebook()
> The notebook files are stored in: /home/boris/.sage//sage_notebook
> Port 8000 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8001 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8002 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8003 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8004 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8005 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8006 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8007 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8008 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8009 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8010 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8011 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8012 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8013 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8014 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8015 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8016 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8017 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8018 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8019 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8020 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8021 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8022 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8023 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8024 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8025 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8026 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8027 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8028 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8029 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8030 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8031 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8032 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8033 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8034 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8035 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8036 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8037 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8038 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8039 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8040 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8041 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8042 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8043 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8044 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8045 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8046 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8047 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8048 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8049 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> Port 8050 is already in use.
> Trying next port...
> ---
> RuntimeError  Traceback (most recent call
> last)
>
> /home/boris/.sage/ in ()
>
> /home/boris/Programs/Sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/
> server/notebook/notebook_object.py in __call__(self, *args, **kwds)
>141 """
>142 def __call__(self, *args, **kwds):
> --> 143 return self.notebook(*args, **kwds)
>144
>145 notebook = run_notebook.notebook_twisted
>
> /home/boris/Programs/Sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/
> server/notebook/run_notebook.py in notebook_twisted(self, directory,
> port, address, port_tries, secure, reset, accounts, require_login,
> server_pool, ulimit, timeout, open_viewer, sagetex_path, start_path,
> fork, quiet)
>264 print "*"*70
>265
> --> 266 port = find_next_available_port(port, port_tries)
>267 #if open_viewer:
>268 #open_page(address, port, secure, pause=PAUSE)
>
> /home/boris/Programs/Sage/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages/sage/
> server/misc.py in find_next_available_port(start, max_tries, verbose)
> 99 print "Port %s is already in use."%port
>100 print "Tryin

[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread Martin Albrecht

> Is there a way to manualy change port to a value range not between
> 8000-8050
> Help appriciated

Sure thing,

try:

sage: notebook?

to see the help for the notebook command, the parameter is called 'port'.

Cheers,
Martin

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[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread kex

I also tried:
./sage
notebook(port=8101)
tried also some other numbers 9000 7999 8500...80 50.. still the
same error

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[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread mabshoff



On Jul 9, 7:58 am, kex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I also tried:
> ./sage
> notebook(port=8101)
> tried also some other numbers 9000 7999 8500...80 50.. still the
> same error

Hi,

you should check your firewall settings. It looks like you are
blocking all traffic, so moving the port is unlikely to fix it. The
likelyhood that 50 consecutive ports in that range are taken is null
on a personal box.

Cheers,

Michael
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[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread kex

I uninstalled ufw, a program for managing netfilter firewall,
netfilter is also not installed. Thats all I found with adept package
manger...
So I think there is no firewall now
The problem remains.

I also tried sage binary, it fails with some other error ..
Now I m going to try to compile sage 3.0.2

Lp
Boris

On Jul 9, 5:05 pm, mabshoff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
dortmund.de> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 7:58 am, kex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > I also tried:
> > ./sage
> > notebook(port=8101)
> > tried also some other numbers 9000 7999 8500...80 50.. still the
> > same error
>
> Hi,
>
> you should check your firewall settings. It looks like you are
> blocking all traffic, so moving the port is unlikely to fix it. The
> likelyhood that 50 consecutive ports in that range are taken is null
> on a personal box.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Michael

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[sage-support] Interact and published notebooks

2008-07-09 Thread D. M. Monarres


Hello all,

I made a sage notebook to illustrate the integration process for my  
class with plots and interact. When I try and make the notebook  
public (both on my local machine and on sagenb.org) the plotting does  
not seem to work. There is a subtle green bar on the side of the cell  
which seems to imply that the sage is doing something but the plots  
never show up.

Do published notebooks have to be static? Is there a verbose logging  
mode that I can use in order to try and figure out what is happening.  
Thank you in advance for your help.

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[sage-support] Re: Interact and published notebooks

2008-07-09 Thread Timothy Clemans

The fact that Interact doesn't work in Published worksheets is
intended due to security. Last I heard this would work starting
sometime this summer since there is a Google Summer of Code project
involving Interact.

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:22 AM, D. M. Monarres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hello all,
>
> I made a sage notebook to illustrate the integration process for my
> class with plots and interact. When I try and make the notebook
> public (both on my local machine and on sagenb.org) the plotting does
> not seem to work. There is a subtle green bar on the side of the cell
> which seems to imply that the sage is doing something but the plots
> never show up.
>
> Do published notebooks have to be static? Is there a verbose logging
> mode that I can use in order to try and figure out what is happening.
> Thank you in advance for your help.
>
> --
> David Monarres
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love.
> -- Charlie Brown
>
>
> >
>

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[sage-support] Re: Interact and published notebooks

2008-07-09 Thread William Stein

Hi,

Timothy is exactly right.   That interact doesn't work
with publishedworksheets is a design decision, for now.

William

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Timothy Clemans
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> The fact that Interact doesn't work in Published worksheets is
> intended due to security. Last I heard this would work starting
> sometime this summer since there is a Google Summer of Code project
> involving Interact.
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:22 AM, D. M. Monarres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I made a sage notebook to illustrate the integration process for my
>> class with plots and interact. When I try and make the notebook
>> public (both on my local machine and on sagenb.org) the plotting does
>> not seem to work. There is a subtle green bar on the side of the cell
>> which seems to imply that the sage is doing something but the plots
>> never show up.
>>
>> Do published notebooks have to be static? Is there a verbose logging
>> mode that I can use in order to try and figure out what is happening.
>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>
>> --
>> David Monarres
>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>
>> Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like unrequited love.
>> -- Charlie Brown
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
> >
>



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University of Washington
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[sage-support] Re: Debian Etch: Error trying to plot

2008-07-09 Thread Alejandro Jakubi

So, which is the problem? Do you need some more information?

Alejandro
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[sage-support] Re: Interact and published notebooks

2008-07-09 Thread D. M. Monarres

Okay that is fine, just means that I have to push harder to get a  
sage server locally on my campus for the students to play with.  Thanks

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On Jul 9, 2008, at 11:35 AM, William Stein wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Timothy is exactly right.   That interact doesn't work
> with publishedworksheets is a design decision, for now.
>
> William
>
> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:28 AM, Timothy Clemans
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> The fact that Interact doesn't work in Published worksheets is
>> intended due to security. Last I heard this would work starting
>> sometime this summer since there is a Google Summer of Code project
>> involving Interact.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:22 AM, D. M. Monarres  
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> I made a sage notebook to illustrate the integration process for my
>>> class with plots and interact. When I try and make the notebook
>>> public (both on my local machine and on sagenb.org) the plotting  
>>> does
>>> not seem to work. There is a subtle green bar on the side of the  
>>> cell
>>> which seems to imply that the sage is doing something but the plots
>>> never show up.
>>>
>>> Do published notebooks have to be static? Is there a verbose logging
>>> mode that I can use in order to try and figure out what is  
>>> happening.
>>> Thank you in advance for your help.
>>>
>>> --
>>> David Monarres
>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>
>>> Nothing takes the taste out of peanut butter quite like  
>>> unrequited love.
>>> -- Charlie Brown
>>>
>>>

>>>
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>
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> -- 
> William Stein
> Associate Professor of Mathematics
> University of Washington
> http://wstein.org
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[sage-support] Re: Interact and published notebooks

2008-07-09 Thread William Stein

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 11:41 AM, D. M. Monarres <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Okay that is fine, just means that I have to push harder to get a
> sage server locally on my campus for the students to play with.  Thanks

It's only a temporary problem since Igor Tolkov is supposed
to "fix this" as part of his Google Summer of Code project.

William

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[sage-support] Re: Interact and published notebooks

2008-07-09 Thread Harald Schilly


On Jul 9, 8:41 pm, "D. M. Monarres" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Okay that is fine, just means that I have to push harder to get a
> sage server locally on my campus for the students to play with.  Thanks

For now, you can also construct animations that for example print a
variable value and the picture as an animatied gif.

H


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[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread kex

Also sage-3.02 gives me the same problem, that is, it cant not find
open port
I would like aslo ask if you guys run sage from KDE 3.5.9 or KDE 4 ?
Lp
Boris
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[sage-support] Problems with Sage installation

2008-07-09 Thread sido_84

Hi,

I have recently installed Sage, and in the notebook when I try to do a
simple plot for example:

plot(sin,(0,1))

I get the error message :

/usr/local/sage/local/bin/sage-sage: line 357:  3592 Illegal
instruction
python "$@"


I have also noticed that I cant used the inline help, so for example
when i try typing:

sqrt?

The result is nothing .. just a little empty qrey square...

Im running the latest version of SAGE ,  v 3.03 , obtained from the
official sagemath.org
and Im running it on a windows XP home edition ...

simple tests like : 2+2 , work fine , but it seems to me that I'm
missing something in the installtion...

Any help will be really appreciated..

Regards




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[sage-support] Re: Problems with Sage installation

2008-07-09 Thread William Stein

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM, sido_84 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have recently installed Sage, and in the notebook when I try to do a
> simple plot for example:
>
> plot(sin,(0,1))
>
> I get the error message :
>
> /usr/local/sage/local/bin/sage-sage: line 357:  3592 Illegal
> instruction
> python "$@"

You have to build from source.  The binary we currently
provide is too new for your architecture of computer.

 -- William

>
>
> I have also noticed that I cant used the inline help, so for example
> when i try typing:
>
> sqrt?
>
> The result is nothing .. just a little empty qrey square...
>
> Im running the latest version of SAGE ,  v 3.03 , obtained from the
> official sagemath.org
> and Im running it on a windows XP home edition ...
>
> simple tests like : 2+2 , work fine , but it seems to me that I'm
> missing something in the installtion...
>
> Any help will be really appreciated..
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> >
>



-- 
William Stein
Associate Professor of Mathematics
University of Washington
http://wstein.org

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[sage-support] Re: RuntimeError: no available port

2008-07-09 Thread William Stein

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM, kex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Also sage-3.02 gives me the same problem, that is, it cant not find
> open port
> I would like aslo ask if you guys run sage from KDE 3.5.9 or KDE 4 ?
> Lp

This is definitely a problem with you running some sort
of firewall or you have too-secure network settings.
No version of Sage will work.

Just out of curiosity, do you have any network services
at all on that machine?  E.g., apache or anything else?

William

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