[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
On Oct 27, 2008, at 23:32 , William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Jason Grout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: [snip] I believe that it will be uploaded/downloaded to the $DATA directory, so it could be attached with: attach $DATA/filename.sage I haven't tried, it, though. You can upload a file just like an image into a given worksheet, and it appears in the data directory. Then I think you can do attach filename.sage (without the $DATA). I'm pretty sure that works in recent versions of Sage. I did a little more poking today, based on helpful comments from William, Jason, and Timothy. Part of my problem is I can't read Japanese so well, so the going is slow :-} After a little probing, I think I understand the way it works. I have a couple of questions to clarify a few points: - I use the Data popup to get the file in question from the client (windows system) to the server (VMWare/Linux virtual system). The resulting webpage says that I can refer to the newly uploaded file by DATA+foo, foo being the name of the file. When I subsequently did an attach from the notebook, I just typed attach foo and it worked. Question: When do I use DATA+? - To develop sage code (i.e., stuff in .sage files), there seems to be two ways to go: 1. Get an ssh client and ssh into the VMWare system, and use Linux editors. The 'attach' will keep reloading the modified file. 2. Use a windows editor, and repeatedly upload and save the file. The 'attach' will keep reloading the modified file. Question: Is this correct? Thanks as always. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds --- My wife 'n kids 'n dogs are gone, I can't get Jesus on the phone, But Ol' Milwaukee's Best is my best friend. --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 9:33 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Oct 27, 2008, at 23:32 , William Stein wrote:
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Jason Grout
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Justin C. Walker wrote:
[snip]
I believe that it will be uploaded/downloaded to the $DATA
directory, so
it could be attached with:
attach $DATA/filename.sage
I haven't tried, it, though.
You can upload a file just like an image into a given worksheet,
and it appears in the data directory. Then I think you can do
attach filename.sage
(without the $DATA). I'm pretty sure that works in
recent versions of Sage.
I did a little more poking today, based on helpful comments from
William, Jason, and Timothy. Part of my problem is I can't read
Japanese so well, so the going is slow :-}
After a little probing, I think I understand the way it works. I have
a couple of questions to clarify a few points:
- I use the Data popup to get the file in question
from the client (windows system) to the server
(VMWare/Linux virtual system). The resulting webpage
says that I can refer to the newly uploaded file by
DATA+foo, foo being the name of the file.
When I subsequently did an attach from the notebook,
I just typed attach foo and it worked.
Yep, because I added some code recently so that would
just work. Doing attach DATA+foo won't, since attach
isn't smart enough to evaluate it's arguments.
Question: When do I use DATA+?
If you attached e.g., a big table of numbers foo.dat, and
in your python code wanted to do
open('foo.dat').read()
it would fail, since the open command is not run in the
DATA directory. Instead do
open(DATA + '/foo.dat').read()
- To develop sage code (i.e., stuff in .sage files),
there seems to be two ways to go:
1. Get an ssh client and ssh into the VMWare system,
and use Linux editors. The 'attach' will keep
reloading the modified file.
True.
2. Use a windows editor, and repeatedly upload and
save the file. The 'attach' will keep reloading
the modified file.
True.
Question: Is this correct?
3. There is also a way to edit a file under Windows and have
it automatically get uploaded via scp into the virtual machine
whenever it is saved. I think http://winscp.net nicely supports
this.
4. Using VMware workstation's shared folders feature, which
makes it so sage under vmware can read/write the files
that you have under windows, then use a standard windows
editor on those windows files.
If you can set it up, I think 4 is the best.
william
Thanks as always.
Justin
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[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Jason Grout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 17:32 , Jason Grout wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: Thanks, William, On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. I'll poke at VMWare when I see her next. If anyone has some good ideas, I'd love to hear `em. Can't you upload the file as a data file and then attach it from there? That way everything is done from the notebook. I wasn't sure that would work. It was not clear to me where the upload/download commands were operating. I will give that a shot. I believe that it will be uploaded/downloaded to the $DATA directory, so it could be attached with: attach $DATA/filename.sage I haven't tried, it, though. You can upload a file just like an image into a given worksheet, and it appears in the data directory. Then I think you can do attach filename.sage (without the $DATA). I'm pretty sure that works in recent versions of Sage. -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). Suggestions? Pointers? It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
Thanks, William, On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. I'll poke at VMWare when I see her next. If anyone has some good ideas, I'd love to hear `em. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large, Director Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income The path of least resistance: it's not just for electricity any more. --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
Justin C. Walker wrote: Thanks, William, On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. I'll poke at VMWare when I see her next. If anyone has some good ideas, I'd love to hear `em. Can't you upload the file as a data file and then attach it from there? That way everything is done from the notebook. Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
You can also SFTP into the virtual machine. I remember seeing that in the readme. On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 8:32 PM, Jason Grout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: Thanks, William, On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. I'll poke at VMWare when I see her next. If anyone has some good ideas, I'd love to hear `em. Can't you upload the file as a data file and then attach it from there? That way everything is done from the notebook. Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
On Oct 27, 2008, at 17:32 , Jason Grout wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: Thanks, William, On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. I'll poke at VMWare when I see her next. If anyone has some good ideas, I'd love to hear `em. Can't you upload the file as a data file and then attach it from there? That way everything is done from the notebook. I wasn't sure that would work. It was not clear to me where the upload/download commands were operating. I will give that a shot. To make sure I know what's going on here, the file to be attached is currently sitting in the Windows file system, and needs to be in the VMWare/Linux file system, correct? Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Institute for the Absorption of Federal Funds --- My wife 'n kids 'n dogs are gone, I can't get Jesus on the phone, But Ol' Milwaukee's Best is my best friend. --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
On Oct 27, 2008, at 17:50 , Timothy Clemans wrote: You can also SFTP into the virtual machine. I remember seeing that in the readme. That's worth a shot. Thanks! Looks like the 'readme' on the Sage site details the necessary steps. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon at Large Director Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income --- Nobody knows the trouble I've been --- --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-support] Re: Using Sage on Windows
Justin C. Walker wrote: On Oct 27, 2008, at 17:32 , Jason Grout wrote: Justin C. Walker wrote: Thanks, William, On Oct 27, 2008, at 4:26 PM, William Stein wrote: On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 4:23 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am helping someone who has a Windows system, and wants to use Sage. She has the VMWare gizmo set up and working fine. I have a silly problem, due to my long history of Windows Rejection: I have a file on Windows that I want to attach in the Sage notebook. Can that be done? The obvious doesn't work (/home/user/D:/Documents/... not found). It's possible but you have to set up some sort of sharing between Windows and VMware. I.e., the Windows filesystem (or some subset of it) has to be made available to vmware. This is I think very easy in VMware Workstation via menus. I don't know if it is easy or not in VMware player. I don't actually have access to a windows machine right now, so i can't give step-by-step directions. I hope somebody else can promptly respond to this email who can. I'll poke at VMWare when I see her next. If anyone has some good ideas, I'd love to hear `em. Can't you upload the file as a data file and then attach it from there? That way everything is done from the notebook. I wasn't sure that would work. It was not clear to me where the upload/download commands were operating. I will give that a shot. I believe that it will be uploaded/downloaded to the $DATA directory, so it could be attached with: attach $DATA/filename.sage I haven't tried, it, though. Jason --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
