[sage-support] Re: sagetex: granular builds for large documents
On Dec 1, 3:30 pm, Dan Drake dr...@kaist.edu wrote: Hi Eric, On Tue, 01 Dec 2009 at 11:44AM -0800, Eric Drechsel wrote: I'm experimenting with a homework workflow using sagetex. I'd like to make efficient use of resources, which seems to be a (the?) major deficiency with sagetex, especially with large documents. My initial thought was that by placing each problem in an included file, I could have my build tool generate individual problem_x.sage and problem_x.sout files only for problems with changes, and keep the master tex file as a simple list of includes. I see now that that can't work, however, at least with my limited knowledge of TeX tricks. So I'm asking the group for ideas. Starters: 1. Is it possible to have a master document that includes a bunch of complete subdocuments? If so, one could simply keep the master document clean of sagetex references, and build each subdocument separately. My first thought is, if you're talking about using a master document and compile times for your homework...you have way too much homework. :) I don't know about keeping the master document clean of SageTeX references, but by using \include, you can keep things separated, and you can even compile only part of the document using \includeonly. Yes, I found out about \includeonly from [1] shortly after posting, and I think that's what I'll do in the short term (homework being due Thursday and all :). [1] http://web.science.mq.edu.au/~rdale/resources/writingnotes/latexstruct.html One thing you can do with SageTeX to make things go faster is to use the pause and unpause commands -- \sagetexpause and \sagetexunpause. Commands between those two don't get run when you run Sage on the .sage file. (SageTeX literally just comments those sections out in the .sage file.) The issue I have with both \sagetexpause and \includeonly is that they're not automate-able. Subdocuments seem like a good way to integrate with build tools (since they can have timestamps etc) Actually, with the stuff I've done, the most time-consuming part of running Sage on the .sage file is simply startup time. Once it starts executing the commands, it generally goes really fast, but starting Sage takes a while. Good point! Most documents are probably not so computationally expensive as the examples file (which has lots of plots). Does sagetex- remote help with this much, or is there still alot of overhead in creating a new session on the server? I'll think about your per-file ideas, and about some kind of \includeonly stuff. Right now, though, it works document-wide. What would you like to see? Can you describe some commands or functionality that you would find helpful? Unless you can think of a simple way to add support for generating separate sage files per tex file (which would also require changing the way .sout files are included I guess?), it doesn't seem worth the trouble. I can't begin to read sagetex.sty, so I can't really evaluate what's a reasonable feature request. Thanks for your thoughtful response! Regarding the build tool, I'm using SCons, with which this is my first experience, and so far I'm liking the flexibility and extensibility alot. My example project with SConstruct file is here [2] [2] http://wiki.shared.dre.am/electricity_and_magnetism/probset7/ Dan -- --- Dan Drake - http://mathsci.kaist.ac.kr/~drake --- signature.asc 1KViewDownload -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: sagetex: granular builds for large documents
Hi Harald, thanks for the suggestion, I had thought of that too. It seems like a viable route. Each subdocument ends up on its own set of pages, but I guess that's the case when using \include too. -- Eric On Dec 1, 3:11 pm, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 1, 8:44 pm, Eric Drechsel ericd...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Is it possible to have a master document that includes a bunch of complete subdocuments? The main problem is, that you may happen to define a variable in the beginning and modify it later and in the end it is used. Therefore there is no mechanism to break this chain apart and everything you define lives along a full sage session. I don't know how far Dan's ideas are, but there is one immediate hack i can suggest you: Just create PDF files for each chapter and then stick them together using a PDF-merge tool. I haven't done it yet, but i guess it's simple to create one big pdf file merging several pdf documents. H -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
[sage-support] Re: sagetex: granular builds for large documents
I use pyPdf to glue pdfs together, its nice if you already like python and want to automate such tasks: http://pybrary.net/pyPdf/ -Marshall On Dec 1, 5:11 pm, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote: On Dec 1, 8:44 pm, Eric Drechsel ericd...@gmail.com wrote: 1. Is it possible to have a master document that includes a bunch of complete subdocuments? The main problem is, that you may happen to define a variable in the beginning and modify it later and in the end it is used. Therefore there is no mechanism to break this chain apart and everything you define lives along a full sage session. I don't know how far Dan's ideas are, but there is one immediate hack i can suggest you: Just create PDF files for each chapter and then stick them together using a PDF-merge tool. I haven't done it yet, but i guess it's simple to create one big pdf file merging several pdf documents. H -- To post to this group, send email to sage-support@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to sage-support-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-support URL: http://www.sagemath.org
Re: [sage-support] Re: sagetex: granular builds for large documents
one can just use pdfpages in (pdf) LaTeX:
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pdfpages}
\begin{document}
\includepdf[pages=-]{bla}
\includepdf[pages=-]{foo}
\end{document}
creates a pdf document consisting of bla.pdf followed by foo.pdf
2009/12/2 Marshall Hampton hampto...@gmail.com:
I use pyPdf to glue pdfs together, its nice if you already like python
and want to automate such tasks:
http://pybrary.net/pyPdf/
-Marshall
On Dec 1, 5:11 pm, Harald Schilly harald.schi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Dec 1, 8:44 pm, Eric Drechsel ericd...@gmail.com wrote:
1. Is it possible to have a master document that includes a bunch of
complete subdocuments?
The main problem is, that you may happen to define a variable in the
beginning and modify it later and in the end it is used. Therefore
there is no mechanism to break this chain apart and everything you
define lives along a full sage session. I don't know how far Dan's
ideas are, but there is one immediate hack i can suggest you: Just
create PDF files for each chapter and then stick them together using a
PDF-merge tool. I haven't done it yet, but i guess it's simple to
create one big pdf file merging several pdf documents.
H
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