[sage-support] Sage is extremely slow to start on macOS Mojave

2019-03-01 Thread Szabolcs Horvát
I am using the app version of Sage 8.6 on macOS Mojave 10.4.3.  It is 
extremely slow to start up. It takes multiple minutes.

Running the sage or Sage executables found within the app bundle is fast—it 
takes only a few seconds, as it should.  It is launching the app the normal 
way (double click) that does not work.

Is this a known problem and is there a solution?

I also asked this on Ask.SageMath, but did not get a definitive answer:

https://ask.sagemath.org/question/45506/sage-takes-very-long-to-start-why/

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Re: [sage-support] Sage is extremely slow to start on macOS Mojave

2019-03-01 Thread Dima Pasechnik
On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM Szabolcs Horvát  wrote:
>
> I am using the app version of Sage 8.6 on macOS Mojave 10.4.3.  It is 
> extremely slow to start up. It takes multiple minutes.
>
> Running the sage or Sage executables found within the app bundle is fast—it 
> takes only a few seconds, as it should.  It is launching the app the normal 
> way (double click) that does not work.
>
> Is this a known problem and is there a solution?

The known problem is that the app version has not been looked at by a
MacOS developer for years. It might be using something obsolete.

We are now trying to offer a Google Summer of Code project to work on it.

If the app version is so bad then we perhaps should just pull it.

>
> I also asked this on Ask.SageMath, but did not get a definitive answer:
>
> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/45506/sage-takes-very-long-to-start-why/
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Re: [sage-support] Sage is extremely slow to start on macOS Mojave

2019-03-01 Thread kcrisman


On Friday, March 1, 2019 at 1:30:44 PM UTC-5, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM Szabolcs Horvát  
> wrote: 
> > 
> > I am using the app version of Sage 8.6 on macOS Mojave 10.4.3.  It is 
> extremely slow to start up. It takes multiple minutes. 
> > 
> > Running the sage or Sage executables found within the app bundle is 
> fast—it takes only a few seconds, as it should.  It is launching the app 
> the normal way (double click) that does not work. 
> > 
> > Is this a known problem and is there a solution? 
>
> The known problem is that the app version has not been looked at by a 
> MacOS developer for years. It might be using something obsolete. 
>
> We are now trying to offer a Google Summer of Code project to work on it. 
>
> If the app version is so bad then we perhaps should just pull it. 
>
>
Well, not everyone is on Mojave ... 

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Re: [sage-support] Sage is extremely slow to start on macOS Mojave

2019-03-01 Thread 'Justin C. Walker' via sage-support



> On Mar 1, 2019, at 10:30 , Dima Pasechnik  wrote:
> 
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM Szabolcs Horvát  wrote:
>> 
>> I am using the app version of Sage 8.6 on macOS Mojave 10.4.3.  It is 
>> extremely slow to start up. It takes multiple minutes.
>> 
>> Running the sage or Sage executables found within the app bundle is fast—it 
>> takes only a few seconds, as it should.  It is launching the app the normal 
>> way (double click) that does not work.
>> 
>> Is this a known problem and is there a solution?
> 
> The known problem is that the app version has not been looked at by a
> MacOS developer for years. It might be using something obsolete.
> 
> We are now trying to offer a Google Summer of Code project to work on it.
> 
> If the app version is so bad then we perhaps should just pull it.

I have been unable to get the .app (8.4 or 8.5) working on 10.14, but it works 
just fine on earlier versions of macOS, so I don’t think pulling it is a great 
idea.

Justin

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Re: [sage-support] Sage is extremely slow to start on macOS Mojave

2019-07-08 Thread Szabolcs Horvát


On Friday, 1 March 2019 19:30:44 UTC+1, Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>
> On Fri, Mar 1, 2019 at 1:15 PM Szabolcs Horvát  > wrote: 
> > 
> > I am using the app version of Sage 8.6 on macOS Mojave 10.4.3.  It is 
> extremely slow to start up. It takes multiple minutes. 
> > 
> > Running the sage or Sage executables found within the app bundle is 
> fast—it takes only a few seconds, as it should.  It is launching the app 
> the normal way (double click) that does not work. 
> > 
> > Is this a known problem and is there a solution? 
>
> The known problem is that the app version has not been looked at by a 
> MacOS developer for years. It might be using something obsolete. 
>
> We are now trying to offer a Google Summer of Code project to work on it. 
>

Version 8.8 still has this problem. I was wondering if there's any work 
being done to address this.

Do any of the regular users use the app version on macOS?
 

>
> If the app version is so bad then we perhaps should just pull it. 
>
> > 
> > I also asked this on Ask.SageMath, but did not get a definitive answer: 
> > 
> > 
> https://ask.sagemath.org/question/45506/sage-takes-very-long-to-start-why/ 
> > 
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