Re: The continuing saga...
> Point 1: Oh no he hasn't. > > He has modified GPL source to produce the development version of SimCoupe > Win32. But since he is not distributing a binary of SimCoupe Win32, he is > under *no* obligation to release his modifications to the source. Actually I am told there is a binary in private distribution. I could name at least one person who has seen it - but that wouldn't be fair! > What are you going on about? Distributing a bunch of pirated games is not > the same as developing a new version of SimCoupe. How is abusing one copyright different to abusing another? (except that according to an earlier Simon Cooke post, the GPL has not been proved in court) -Thomas
Re: The continuing saga...
The point I was making was, is that it seems every time we start some kind of common project in the SAM community, everyone starts fighting and pulling in different directions until key people simply give up hope... Just a familiar pattern, is all. -- James R Curry
Re: Linux vs. Win32 SimCoupe - must I fight?
> Hey, Sim Coupe was distributed under the GPL license. If Si doesn't > want to surrender the modified source then he is breaking the law, and > many people within the GPL sphere are perfectly happy to help fight if > this is the case. > Interestingly, the GPL has never been proven in court. Simon Cooke (The views of this poster are his and his alone, and may or may not reflect the views of the Microsoft Corporation).
Re: The continuing saga...
>> squabble squabble squabble Linux *squak* *squak* *squak* WIN32, squabble >>Simcoupe >> *squak* Linux, Linux GPL squablle, *squak* *squak*! > > Here is an interesting fact : Si has broken the distribution agreement >with which he got the source for Sim Coupe. Point 1: Oh no he hasn't. He has modified GPL source to produce the development version of SimCoupe Win32. But since he is not distributing a binary of SimCoupe Win32, he is under *no* obligation to release his modifications to the source. Point 2: Give him time. I'm sure that, when the time comes for SimCoupe Win32 to be released, and Si Owen distributes the binary, I'm sure that he will also distribute the source. And when that happens, the Linux programmers can start working those modifications back into the Linux source tree. > If you think that is an >acceptable thing to do in order to further the popularity of Sam >emulation, why not upload a whole load of .dsk files of games yourself? What are you going on about? Distributing a bunch of pirated games is not the same as developing a new version of SimCoupe. Andrew -- | Andrew Collier | email [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Talk sense to a | Part 2 NatSci | http://carou.sel.cam.ac.uk/ | fool and he ++ICQ:38645805-+ calls you foolish | Selwyn College Student Computer Support Team | -- Euripides
Re: The continuing saga...
> squabble squabble squabble Linux *squak* *squak* *squak* WIN32, squabble > Simcoupe > *squak* Linux, Linux GPL squablle, *squak* *squak*! Here is an interesting fact : Si has broken the distribution agreement with which he got the source for Sim Coupe. If you think that is an acceptable thing to do in order to further the popularity of Sam emulation, why not upload a whole load of .dsk files of games yourself? Sure, David Ledbury and most of the rest of us wouldn't be happy, and you'd have broken the license agreement under which you acquired the software - but 'squabble squabble Sam Coupe *squak* *squak* *squak* IBM PC, squabble, Simcoupe *squak* .dsk, data protection act, *squak* *squak*!" -Thomas
The continuing saga...
squabble squabble squabble Linux *squak* *squak* *squak* WIN32, squabble Simcoupe *squak* Linux, Linux GPL squablle, *squak* *squak*! -- James R Curry
Re: PC to Sam
> Can anyone explain to me how can i transfer dsk files downloaded from the > internet vie a PC to a Sam computer?The software needed and any problems I On NVG there are two programs that can do this for you - samdisk and samdsk. Neither has any real advantage when transferring to floppy, except that samdsk does a not run under a win95 DOS box for me. When transferring from floppy however, it is only samdsk that can handle bad sectors. So it is all swings and roundabouts there. Both have different command line options, and the only error I can think of if you have good disk media is that your disk drive may refuse to work with the floppy disk. Though no-one has ever complained about that happening before. People often say it is a good idea to have the disk you are transferring to SAM formatted already, but I've never had that problem. [cut] Ummm, don't know anything else, sorry. -Thomas
Re: Linux vs. Win32 SimCoupe - must I fight?
> Since Si Owen doesn't want to release his sources (I hate him for this), > I can't do much and I'm affraid Linux is out for now, since DOS is out too. Hey, Sim Coupe was distributed under the GPL license. If Si doesn't want to surrender the modified source then he is breaking the law, and many people within the GPL sphere are perfectly happy to help fight if this is the case. A win32 Sim boycott anyone? > I think Linux users can simply use DOS version. Or not? Why not? > Either use DOS emulator (change Sim Coupe for DOS a bit, if the current > version doesn't work in DOS emulator), or simply use a boot disk with DOS. > Many Linux users I know have DOS installed on their computer too. > So what's the problem? I think the principle is this : an open source package for X-Windows which was written in Linux can usually be taken to work and compiled on a DEC or an Alpha . . . . machines which can not have DOS on them. > I'm sorry for this negative mail, but I'm really frustrated of all these > Linux activists. Hey man, so am I, and I use the stupid operating system! -Thomas
Linux vs. Win32 SimCoupe - must I fight?
- Original Message - From: Paul Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: 6. èervna 1999 16:34 Subject: Re: The win32 SIM Coupe > On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Stuart Brady wrote: > > > Please, just *DON'T* make it dependant on DOS/Windows, whatever you do. > > I know you don't care much about anything other than DOS/Windows, Aley, > > but please be careful not to ruin anything. You don't have to work on > > I don't think Aley's actually doing anything other than the sound driver. > If that becomes too dependant on Windows, then someone just writes a Unix > sound driver to take it's place. ;) > > Paul > > > That's partially right. I keep working on DOS version. Since Si Owen doesn't want to release his sources (I hate him for this), I can't do much and I'm affraid Linux is out for now, since DOS is out too. In addition I'd like to ask this: Why Linux users don't make their version first and give us their sources? It is very easy to say: "Make you Win version Linux compatible." I bet everybody can say this, but not too many people can really do something for Linux, what will be usable for "our" ;) Win32 version. And of course many of them don't know much on the Win32 programming, when they say "keep current SimCoupe's menu". I'm really sorry, but I must say I don't like this people! I hope Si Owen will continue making ***Win32*** version. Another task is how Win32 programmers can exactly know what is "Linux friendly" in C++ source? Also, I think Linux users can simply use DOS version. Or not? Why not? Either use DOS emulator (change Sim Coupe for DOS a bit, if the current version doesn't work in DOS emulator), or simply use a boot disk with DOS. Many Linux users I know have DOS installed on their computer too. So what's the problem? I'm sorry for this negative mail, but I'm really frustrated of all these Linux activists. "If you often say "Do this...", then you should shut up and do it yourself." Aley [eili] Keprt - student, programmer (multimedia soft. etc.) phone: +420-68-538 70 35 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** http://get.to/aley
PC to Sam
Can anyone explain to me how can i transfer dsk files downloaded from the internet vie a PC to a Sam computer?The software needed and any problems I may incounter. Does anyone know if Sam PD is still going or have Derek Morgan's address? He was very helpfull to me in the past. Are the Gloucester show's still going ? I have tried to email format publications about some software and hardware i need (2nd disk drive interface) but their address([EMAIL PROTECTED]) was returned to me. I have also rang thei phone no but I could not got an answer either. Does anyone know what. the last issue no of Format was. As a user who need help with their Sam i need to know where i can go for help now? john adams
