Re: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread David Ledbury
btw anyone in touch with david handley these days?
- Original Message - 
From: Gavin Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:17 AM
Subject: FLM dsk


 Would someone to me a favour and send me a disk image (dsk or sad) of 
 Football League Manager please? I have the disk (I can send you a webcam 
 image of it if you don't believe me!) but the only PC I have access to 
 is Win 2000 and Edwin's Disk Manager doesn't work with it - nor do 
 samdisk/samdsk.
 
 Oh and if you are going to send it, please send it to me, not the list ;)
 
 Gavin
 (Apologies if my time zone is messed up - I'm on a developer's build of 
 Mac OS X 10.1 and it might be like this for a week or so :/ )
 
 
 



RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Simon Owen
Gavin Smith wrote:
 the only PC I have access to is Win 2000 and Edwin's Disk
 Manager doesn't work with it - nor do samdisk/samdsk.

I've written a filter driver that allows standard format SAM disks to be
read on Windows 2000 (and on NT, with a different binary build - not
tried XP yet).  If Edwin's interesting in adding NT/2000 support to his
disk manager, he's welcome to use it...

Si



Re: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Edwin Blink

From: Simon Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I've written a filter driver that allows standard format SAM disks to be
 read on Windows 2000 (and on NT, with a different binary build - not
 tried XP yet).  If Edwin's interesting in adding NT/2000 support to his
 disk manager, he's welcome to use it...

I am

Edwin




RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Justin . Skists
I was thinking of doing something similar for Linux... a proper filesystem
driver to allow native mounting of SAM disks...

 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Owen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, September 06, 2001 11:55 PM
 To:   sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
 Subject:  RE: FLM dsk
 
 Gavin Smith wrote:
  the only PC I have access to is Win 2000 and Edwin's Disk
  Manager doesn't work with it - nor do samdisk/samdsk.
 
 I've written a filter driver that allows standard format SAM disks to be
 read on Windows 2000 (and on NT, with a different binary build - not
 tried XP yet).  If Edwin's interesting in adding NT/2000 support to his
 disk manager, he's welcome to use it...
 
 Si


RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Simon Owen
Edwin Blink wrote:
 From: Simon Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  If Edwin's interesting in adding NT/2000 support 
  to his disk manager, he's welcome to use it...
 
 I am

Ok, will be in touch later today...

Si



RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Simon Owen
Justin Skists wrote:
 I was thinking of doing something similar for Linux... a 
 proper filesystem driver to allow native mounting of SAM disks...

Yay - please do!

I started looking at that myself a while back - got as far as stripping
out the FAT driver from the kernel sources, and building directory
structures from the SAM directory.  Unfortunately I forgot it was still
under the kernel source tree when I came to wipe my Linux installation
for a new one... :-(

DOS, Win9x and NT/W2K/XP need completely different implementations for
each, which would be a lot of work.  I'd be most tempted by the last one
as things are moving more that way, but the IFS SDK costs $1000+VAT.

Si



RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Justin . Skists
OK then. I'll start working on it in a couple of weeks time when I get
myself a half-decent PC with linux on it...

Any chance of looking at some source code that deals with the SAM disk
layout (especially the data manipulation parts)? the actualy linuxy bits
should be a peice of cake... :) (...famous last words from a professional
linux driver writer).

If all goes well, theoretically, we should be able to mount standard .dsk
files as loopback devices, aswell. Then again, that also depends on the
format for .dsk!



 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Owen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 11:16 AM
 To:   sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
 Subject:  RE: FLM dsk
 
 Justin Skists wrote:
  I was thinking of doing something similar for Linux... a 
  proper filesystem driver to allow native mounting of SAM disks...
 
 Yay - please do!
 
 I started looking at that myself a while back - got as far as stripping
 out the FAT driver from the kernel sources, and building directory
 structures from the SAM directory.  Unfortunately I forgot it was still
 under the kernel source tree when I came to wipe my Linux installation
 for a new one... :-(
 
 DOS, Win9x and NT/W2K/XP need completely different implementations for
 each, which would be a lot of work.  I'd be most tempted by the last one
 as things are moving more that way, but the IFS SDK costs $1000+VAT.
 
 Si


RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Simon Owen
Justin Skists wrote:
 OK then. I'll start working on it in a couple of weeks time 

:-)))


 Any chance of looking at some source code that deals with the 
 SAM disk layout (especially the data manipulation parts)?

For the logical disk stuff Andrew Collier's Sam .dsk Image Manipulator
source code is probably a good start on it.  You can get that from the
MNEMOtech download page:
  http://www.mnemotech.ucam.org/download.html

Other than that the SAM technical manual is probably still your best bet
for technical details:
  ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/docs/SamTechManual.zip


 If all goes well, theoretically, we should be able to mount 
 standard .dsk files as loopback devices, aswell. Then again, 
 that also depends on the format for .dsk!

If you need any disk image stuff, you can probably fish it out of the
SimCoupé source code.  Look in CDisk.* at:
  http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/simcoupe/SimCoupe/Base/

Si



RE: FLM dsk

2001-09-07 Thread Justin . Skists
cheers for that. it all seems simple enough...

 -Original Message-
 From: Simon Owen [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 12:02 PM
 To:   sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
 Subject:  RE: FLM dsk
 
 Justin Skists wrote:
  OK then. I'll start working on it in a couple of weeks time 
 
 :-)))
 
 
  Any chance of looking at some source code that deals with the 
  SAM disk layout (especially the data manipulation parts)?
 
 For the logical disk stuff Andrew Collier's Sam .dsk Image Manipulator
 source code is probably a good start on it.  You can get that from the
 MNEMOtech download page:
   http://www.mnemotech.ucam.org/download.html
 
 Other than that the SAM technical manual is probably still your best bet
 for technical details:
   ftp://ftp.nvg.ntnu.no/pub/sam-coupe/docs/SamTechManual.zip
 
 
  If all goes well, theoretically, we should be able to mount 
  standard .dsk files as loopback devices, aswell. Then again, 
  that also depends on the format for .dsk!
 
 If you need any disk image stuff, you can probably fish it out of the
 SimCoupé source code.  Look in CDisk.* at:
   http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/simcoupe/SimCoupe/Base/
 
 Si