RE: Copyright etc
Cookie wrote: 99% of the people who post there are rabid GNU followers, who want everything to be free, regardless of reality. GNU followers don't want everything to be free - they want there to be a free software alternative to everything. Which is entirely different. I should have known an ex-microsoft employee would think like that :) :) :) Geoff
Re: Copyright etc
From: Fred Bloggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not ignoring, badgering, or forcing copyright - merely agreeing with Colin. Why is this the 2nd time i have been mentioned in this discussion when I haven't said anything to do with it ? As I said in my earlier post it was Gavin Smith that posted up about the two month thing! Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
RE: Linux Format
snipped link to TurboMON docs in RTF format Here's a more convenient PDF version, which also prevents the table formatting breaking on printers with larger margins. I've correced a few typos and removed my old snail address, but the rest of the cheese is the same: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.owen/sam/TurboMON.pdf Si
Re: Copyright etc
On Monday 19 Aug 2002 9:43 am, you wrote: Cookie wrote: 99% of the people who post there are rabid GNU followers, who want everything to be free, regardless of reality. GNU followers don't want everything to be free - they want there to be a free software alternative to everything. Which is entirely different. I should have known an ex-microsoft employee would think like that :) :) :) Sorry Geoff, I'd love to agree with you. You're right that the GPL itself and the saner parts of the FSF's website do make that distinction. But Stallman himself, and quite a lot of people who follow his ideas, think that all information should be freely copied no matter who generated it or what their wishes are concerning how that information should be used. I believe RMS has also lobbied his government to outlaw non-Free software. To release a non-free program is always ethically tainted - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html Note that the GNU Project recommends avoiding the term piracy since it implies that sharing copies is somehow illegitimate - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/philosophy.html As a computer user today, you may find yourself using a proprietary program. If your friend asks to make a copy, it would be wrong to refuse. Cooperation is more important than copyright. - http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/why-free.html Andrew -- --- Andrew Collier http://mnemotech.ucam.org/ --- -- r2+ T4* cSEL dMS hEn/CBBL A4 S+*++ C$++L/mP W- a-- Vh+seT+ (Cantab) 1.1.4
[OT]: GNU (was RE: Copyright etc)
Andrew Collier wrote: implies that sharing copies is somehow illegitimate - Come come andrew, that's a cheap trick - taking words out of context. Quote from the link given on that page: If you don't believe that illegal copying is just like kidnaping and murder, you might prefer not to use the word ``piracy'' to describe it. Neutral terms such as ``prohibited copying'' or ``unauthorized copying'' are available for use instead Unquote. As a computer user today, you may find yourself using a proprietary program. If your friend asks to make a copy, it would be wrong to refuse. Cooperation is more important than copyright. - The -very- next sentence says: Quote: But underground, closet cooperation does not make for a good society. A person should aspire to live an upright life openly with pride, and this means saying ``No'' to proprietary software. Unquote. To release a non-free program is always ethically tainted - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html That's a slightly less stringent statement than stating that GNU followers want everything to be free, regardless of reality. On the other hand, I've yet to see a valid, reasoned argument why Microsoft needs to charge such exorbitant fees for its product. The profit margins it pulls clearly show that any RD investment claim is a myth. Pretty much every single penny of profit made in the computer industry is based on research which was donated by the researchers to the public good (computers themselves, the internet, the web, programming principles, C etc etc) and yet the major corporate players still insist that by profiting from others' work they are on the side of the ethically just. Geoff
Re: Linux Format
Can TurboMON be downloaded somewhere? Frans Simon Owen wrote: snipped link to TurboMON docs in RTF format Here's a more convenient PDF version, which also prevents the table formatting breaking on printers with larger margins. I've correced a few typos and removed my old snail address, but the rest of the cheese is the same: http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.owen/sam/TurboMON.pdf Si
Re: Linux Format
Can TurboMON be downloaded somewhere? Should be in NVG? --Matt.
Re: Linux Format
Ofcourse that should've been the first place I should've checked before asking! Sorry! Frans Matthew J. Craven wrote: Can TurboMON be downloaded somewhere? Should be in NVG? --Matt.
TurboMON (was RE: Linux Format)
Frans wrote: Can TurboMON be downloaded somewhere? I'll upload an image of it when I get home (in about an hour). I'm surprised it's not somewhere on NVG already! Si
Re: TurboMON (was RE: Linux Format)
I couldn't find it, but I may have overlooked it ... Thanks Si, Frans Simon Owen wrote: Frans wrote: Can TurboMON be downloaded somewhere? I'll upload an image of it when I get home (in about an hour). I'm surprised it's not somewhere on NVG already! Si
RE: TurboMON (was RE: Linux Format)
Earlier I wrote: I'll upload an image of it when I get home Oh, and after I've been to the shops too ;-) Here's an updated image (with source code): http://homepage.ntlworld.com/simon.owen/sam/TurboMON.zip I've also found some design notes for it from mid-1993, which I'll put online soon (for a laugh). There was no emulator back then, so I just typed ideas and code fragments into text files, to prepare for coding when I finished Uni. Si
Re: Copyright etc
Whoops! Sorry Colin, I got you mixed up with Gavin! I offer you my humblest apologies. From: Colin Piggot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Copyright etc Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 10:38:43 +0100 From: Fred Bloggs [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not ignoring, badgering, or forcing copyright - merely agreeing with Colin. Why is this the 2nd time i have been mentioned in this discussion when I haven't said anything to do with it ? As I said in my earlier post it was Gavin Smith that posted up about the two month thing! Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam Website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/ _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com
