Re: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-05-01 Thread Simon Owen

Simon Cooke wrote:

That one basically ignored the track/sector addresses (wrote them out as
weird values IIRC), so you'd need to manage all that manually to get the
data off the disk.


The one I have is 5x1024 per track, with the cylinder value as 128 in 
each header, except for the boot sector and first directory sector that 
need to be correct.  The head value matches the physical location, 
though (unlike the PC) the WD1772 doesn't match the head value so it 
wouldn't have added to the protection anyway.


Here's a dump of the start of the disk:

[Parallax.dsk]
2 sides, 82 tracks: 
250Kbps MFM, 5 sectors, 1024 bytes, cyl=128:
  0:0   1[c0,n2] 4 2 5 3
  1:0   1 4 2 5 3
  2:0   1 4 2 5 3
  3:0   1 4 2 5 3
  4:0   1[c4] 4 2 5 3
  5:0   1 4 2 5 3



Hackier still was the lemmings one - same idea, but stuffed a lot more data
in there. Can't remember how, but I think it was 5.5k/track


It was indeed 5.5K - 5x1024 + 1x512 per track, interleaved probably due 
to the small inter-sector gap, and skewed for a slight speed gain:


[Lemmings.dsk]
2 sides, 82 tracks: 
250Kbps MFM, 2 sectors, 512 bytes:
  0:0   1 2
250Kbps MFM, 6 sectors, 1024 bytes:
  1:0   5 3 6 4 1[n2] 2
  2:0   3 6 4 1[n2] 2 5
  3:0   6 4 1[n2] 2 5 3
  4:0   4 1[n2] 2 5 3 6
  5:0   1[n2] 2 5 3 6 4



Even hackier was one that I never used, but would put dupes of sectors on
each track. Unless you synced up to the spindle marker, you'd have a 50/50
chance of getting bogus data.


That trick is used by a few +3 disk titles, including Tomahawk.  They 
only appear to be there to choke copiers though, as I couldn't see any 
sign of them being checked by the protection.


Si



RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-30 Thread Simon Cooke
Yes I am :) At least for now.. there's a small chance I might be moving to
LA... not sure yet :)


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> Hey, Simon, are you still in the Seattle area?  I'm considering another
> trip that way, later this year.



RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-30 Thread James R Curry



>  ---Original Message---
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Hey, Simon, are you still in the Seattle area?  I'm considering another trip 
that way, later this year.


RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-30 Thread Simon Cooke
Ah yes... nearly the very hackiest of the hacky disk protection systems I
put together. The only hackier one was the Lemmings stuff which Chris
expanded on, which stuffed a hell of a lot more data on the disk.

That one basically ignored the track/sector addresses (wrote them out as
weird values IIRC), so you'd need to manage all that manually to get the
data off the disk.

Hackier still was the lemmings one - same idea, but stuffed a lot more data
in there. Can't remember how, but I think it was 5.5k/track

Even hackier was one that I never used, but would put dupes of sectors on
each track. Unless you synced up to the spindle marker, you'd have a 50/50
chance of getting bogus data.

> -Original Message-
> Cheers for looking into this - nice to know the game is patched, even
> if
> I probably won't get as far as the problem point!  I only happened to
> be
> looking at the disk because the original isn't readable on the PC due
> to
> undersized gap4a.
> 
> Si



RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-30 Thread Simon Cooke
Haha... yeah... :) Colin was a little pissed when he found out... But there
was a lot of room on the disk... ;-)

> -Original Message-
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> On Behalf Of Simon Owen
> Sent: 04/17/2007 11:52 AM
> To: sam-users
> Subject: Entrpoy demos in Parallax
> 
> So, there I was browsing the Parallax disk image in a hex editor (don't
> ask!), when I came across a message...
> 
> Cookie: kept that a bit quiet, didn't you?  ;-)
> 
> Si



RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-30 Thread Simon Cooke
IIRC, E,D,G,INV was the infinite lives cheat for Parallax. :)

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> Subject: Re: Entrpoy demos in Parallax
> 
> Stefan Drissen wrote:
> > And just viewing the parallax.fix file (on Fred 25) in SimCoupe shows
> the following, hehe:
> >
> > HERE, USED TO BE SOME ENTROPY DEMOS - AND YOU CAN STILL GET TO THEM
> IF YOU POKE THE JUMP JUST ABOVE WITH 16607... COOKIE!
> 
> That's the one I ran into, so I guess the disk I acquired is probably
> patched already.  The demo menu still mentioned an E+D+G+Inv key combo
> for doing something on the options screen, and since we're already in
> the demo I guess it can't be to trigger it.  Cheat mode maybe?
> 
> Cheers for looking into this - nice to know the game is patched, even
> if
> I probably won't get as far as the problem point!  I only happened to
> be
> looking at the disk because the original isn't readable on the PC due
> to
> undersized gap4a.
> 
> Si



Re: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-18 Thread Simon Owen

Stefan Drissen wrote:

And just viewing the parallax.fix file (on Fred 25) in SimCoupe shows the 
following, hehe:
 
HERE, USED TO BE SOME ENTROPY DEMOS - AND YOU CAN STILL GET TO THEM IF YOU POKE THE JUMP JUST ABOVE WITH 16607... COOKIE!


That's the one I ran into, so I guess the disk I acquired is probably 
patched already.  The demo menu still mentioned an E+D+G+Inv key combo 
for doing something on the options screen, and since we're already in 
the demo I guess it can't be to trigger it.  Cheat mode maybe?


Cheers for looking into this - nice to know the game is patched, even if 
I probably won't get as far as the problem point!  I only happened to be 
looking at the disk because the original isn't readable on the PC due to 
undersized gap4a.


Si



RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-17 Thread Stefan Drissen
And just viewing the parallax.fix file (on Fred 25) in SimCoupe shows the 
following, hehe:
 
HERE, USED TO BE SOME ENTROPY DEMOS - AND YOU CAN STILL GET TO THEM IF YOU POKE 
THE JUMP JUST ABOVE WITH 16607... COOKIE!
 
Which saves me a trip to the basement... 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Stefan Drissen
Sent: Tue 4/17/2007 23:49
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax


An Entropy menu is started by holding down a certain set of keys while booting. 
When Colin found out about this he requested it removed - which is what the 
'Parallax' fix on Fred 25 (in the 'Bits' section) ALSO does. I'd found it 
before (having run into the crash) and had created my own patcher (which does 
not destroy the hidden menu)...  I'm bound to have it on one of my floppy disks 
somewhere in the basement. If I find it I'll let you know.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Simon Owen
Sent: Tue 4/17/2007 22:24
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Entrpoy demos in Parallax



Stefan Drissen wrote:
> Do you mean the hidden demo?

It has Entro 1, Entro 2 and Hot Butter - not new demos, but access to
them enabled by patching a jump address, as described in the on-disk
instructions!

There was also a mention of a key combo doing something else in the
options, but I've not tried that yet.


> Which in turn was nicely patched by the bug fix to fix the crash when
> loading a certain higher level (interupts were not enabled after loading
> it...).

Hmmm, I didn't know about any of that!  Is my disk likely to be affected
then?  Are there details of what to patch to fix it?

Si



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RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-17 Thread Stefan Drissen
An Entropy menu is started by holding down a certain set of keys while booting. 
When Colin found out about this he requested it removed - which is what the 
'Parallax' fix on Fred 25 (in the 'Bits' section) ALSO does. I'd found it 
before (having run into the crash) and had created my own patcher (which does 
not destroy the hidden menu)...  I'm bound to have it on one of my floppy disks 
somewhere in the basement. If I find it I'll let you know.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Simon Owen
Sent: Tue 4/17/2007 22:24
To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no
Subject: Re: Entrpoy demos in Parallax



Stefan Drissen wrote:
> Do you mean the hidden demo?

It has Entro 1, Entro 2 and Hot Butter - not new demos, but access to
them enabled by patching a jump address, as described in the on-disk
instructions!

There was also a mention of a key combo doing something else in the
options, but I've not tried that yet.


> Which in turn was nicely patched by the bug fix to fix the crash when
> loading a certain higher level (interupts were not enabled after loading
> it...).

Hmmm, I didn't know about any of that!  Is my disk likely to be affected
then?  Are there details of what to patch to fix it?

Si



<>

Re: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-17 Thread Simon Owen

Stefan Drissen wrote:

Do you mean the hidden demo?


It has Entro 1, Entro 2 and Hot Butter - not new demos, but access to 
them enabled by patching a jump address, as described in the on-disk 
instructions!


There was also a mention of a key combo doing something else in the 
options, but I've not tried that yet.




Which in turn was nicely patched by the bug fix to fix the crash when
loading a certain higher level (interupts were not enabled after loading
it...).


Hmmm, I didn't know about any of that!  Is my disk likely to be affected 
then?  Are there details of what to patch to fix it?


Si



RE: Entrpoy demos in Parallax

2007-04-17 Thread Stefan Drissen
Do you mean the hidden demo?
Which in turn was nicely patched by the bug fix to fix the crash when
loading a certain higher level (interupts were not enabled after loading
it...).


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Simon Owen
> Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2007 20:52
> To: sam-users
> Subject: Entrpoy demos in Parallax
> 
> So, there I was browsing the Parallax disk image in a hex 
> editor (don't 
> ask!), when I came across a message...
> 
> Cookie: kept that a bit quiet, didn't you?  ;-)
> 
> Si
>