RE: Please remove
Fred Bloggs wrote: Who/what is Samsboss? Bob Brenchley Others can tell you why if the want. -- Tarquin Mills ACCUS (Anglia Classic Computer Users Society) http://www.planet14.sonow4u.co.uk/comp/accus/
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On Sat, 06 Apr 2002 21:00:08 GMT, Tarquin Mills [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fred Bloggs wrote: Who/what is Samsboss? B** B Hush! He may still be listening ! Others can tell you why if the want. I can't think why any one sane would want. But apparently the old sock puppet master is still at it if traffic in certain usenet groups is to be believed. -- Nev - who is now getting rather too much spam and so may be forced to move. Webpage under construction at www,nfy53,demon,co,uk
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We're flat out on finishing a game at the moment (www.MobileForces.com if anyone's vaguely interested), but I'll maybe see if I can get back to it over the Summer - there were a few stories that came out that I think'd make good reading - although perhaps if it was written by someone else ;) What's perhaps the most interesting after all these years is seeing who's doing what - so I'll maybe hassle people about that sort of thing at some point. Haven't heard anything of Alan for coming up to 9 years now - last I heard the family had moved to somewhere about Bahrain and he was working in a Chamber of Commerce. Used to pop down to Swansea to see Bruce every so often, but haven't been down for a few years - as Chris said, he certainly was still having fun playing around with IT/PC stuff. That number Dan found doesn't match the last one I had for him though, so not sure if he's still around. C. -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again?
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On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:04:43 -, Matthew J Craven [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who/what is Samsboss? Oh you --really-- don't want to know.. de-lurk It's not me. re-lurk relief Phew! \relief
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Who/what is Samsboss? Oh you --really-- don't want to know..
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The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree It is very interesting, yes, but it's not what SAM Users is about!
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Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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well, that GoodSam is out, along with all the other Good tools out there, just search on google for goodsam roms and you'll quite happily annoy most of the grumblers here (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Title: RE: Please remove [snip] All I can say on the matter: Whe! (As you can guess: I'm too tired to give an intelligent response.) -- Justin Skists Software Engineer Aculab Tel:+44 (0) 1908 273 800 Fax:+44 (0) 1908 273 801
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(and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) Well, there is 1 title of mine on the list from when it was published by another company in 1994, before I set up 'Quazar' in 1995. Although, there is a fair few titles on that list which do belong to David Ledbury. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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does david still sell them? -Original Message- From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:40 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) Well, there is 1 title of mine on the list from when it was published by another company in 1994, before I set up 'Quazar' in 1995. Although, there is a fair few titles on that list which do belong to David Ledbury. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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does david still sell them? This is like going back to the start of the discussion! The titles he does hold the copyright and distribution rights for are not currently on sale - but they soon will be re-released for a few quid from Sam Community with the profits going to charity. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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:-) hopefully its gone full circle now then -Original Message- From: Colin Piggot [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:51 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove does david still sell them? This is like going back to the start of the discussion! The titles he does hold the copyright and distribution rights for are not currently on sale - but they soon will be re-released for a few quid from Sam Community with the profits going to charity. Colin Quazar : Hardware, Software, Spares and Repairs for the Sam For all the recent Quazar news, see the new look website: http://www.quazar.clara.net/sam/
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Bruce is a It techy still in swansea , i keep meaning to pay him a visit one day . As for Allan , i think he went into some form of lechuring (but don't quote me on that) C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt Sent: 12 March 2002 14:29 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Please remove well, that GoodSam is out, along with all the other Good tools out there, just search on google for goodsam roms and you'll quite happily annoy most of the grumblers here (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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i'd love to meet up and chat with him, i'm near newport! Dean -Original Message- From: Chris White [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:21 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Bruce is a It techy still in swansea , i keep meaning to pay him a visit one day . As for Allan , i think he went into some form of lechuring (but don't quote me on that) C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt Sent: 12 March 2002 14:29 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Please remove well, that GoodSam is out, along with all the other Good tools out there, just search on google for goodsam roms and you'll quite happily annoy most of the grumblers here (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject:RE: Please remove Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com
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Are they both on this list, does anyone know? Or have they gone completely from the scene? i'd love to meet up and chat with him, i'm near newport! Dean -Original Message- From: Chris White [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:21 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject:RE: Please remove Bruce is a It techy still in swansea , i keep meaning to pay him a visit one day . As for Allan , i think he went into some form of lechuring (but don't quote me on that) C -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dean Woodyatt Sent: 12 March 2002 14:29 To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' Subject: RE: Please remove well, that GoodSam is out, along with all the other Good tools out there, just search on google for goodsam roms and you'll quite happily annoy most of the grumblers here (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com -- _ _ _a' /( . # Gaz Wilson, aka DragonLord /_/ _ _/ / ` / _ ~~ _}\ \( _ ) # E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] / \ /_'/_/ /_, / /_||/|/ \(,_(,)' # Info
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Dean Woodyatt wrote: i'd love to meet up and chat with him, i'm near newport! Sounds like the next SAM get-together should be in Swansea, so we can all interrogate him? }:- Si
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Are they both on this list, does anyone know? Or have they gone completely from the scene? SFXWhistling wind, a tumbleweed floats across the list.../SFX Unlikely to be here :-) A look in the BT PhonesDisc reveals only one 'GORDAN, B' in Swansea. Could be... Dan. Green Flag Limited, registered in England no. 1003081 registered office The Wharf, Neville Street, Leeds LS1 4AZ. UK Insurance Limited is also a member of the Green Flag group of companies and is a member of the General Insurance Standards Council.
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I have to say Johnna that I couldn't have said it any better myself. The bigger picture truly has been lost in the utter irrelevance of copyright law. From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:14:42 - Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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Title: RE: Please remove Indeed. Besides, isn't this argument lost without the likes of Samsboss, et al? -Original Message- From: Fred Bloggs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:50 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove I have to say Johnna that I couldn't have said it any better myself. The bigger picture truly has been lost in the utter irrelevance of copyright law. [snip]
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It would help if it was in English though Dean. And the page is a bit busy at present. Don't tell me our copyright chums are accessing it too?!! From: Dean Woodyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:28:30 - well, that GoodSam is out, along with all the other Good tools out there, just search on google for goodsam roms and you'll quite happily annoy most of the grumblers here (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM To:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
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Who/what is Samsboss? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 16:52:38 - Indeed. Besides, isn't this argument lost without the likes of Samsboss, et al? -Original Message- From: Fred Bloggs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:50 PM To:sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove I have to say Johnna that I couldn't have said it any better myself. The bigger picture truly has been lost in the utter irrelevance of copyright law. [snip] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
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Who/what is Samsboss? ROFL! Think along the lines of Episode II: Attack of the Clones In the true spirit of Samsboss, I'm not going to say :-) DansBoss. Green Flag Limited, registered in England no. 1003081 registered office The Wharf, Neville Street, Leeds LS1 4AZ. UK Insurance Limited is also a member of the Green Flag group of companies and is a member of the General Insurance Standards Council.
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erm, Goodsam is in English along with the rest of the good tools ill dig out the URL later it should be on www.retrogames.com somewhere tho -Original Message- From: Fred Bloggs [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:56 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove It would help if it was in English though Dean. And the page is a bit busy at present. Don't tell me our copyright chums are accessing it too?!! From: Dean Woodyatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: 'sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no' sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 14:28:30 - well, that GoodSam is out, along with all the other Good tools out there, just search on google for goodsam roms and you'll quite happily annoy most of the grumblers here (and unfortunatley colin also, some of his current stuff is in there :-( ) -Original Message- From: Johnna Teare [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 2:15 PM To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: RE: Please remove Sadly the SAM scene has been plagued down the years by people who want to debate the fine print and small details whilst the big picture dissapears down the river. Anyway, I've had a change of heart. I think the people who are holding on dearly to copyrights for games over ten years old are neing quite astute. The way I see it is this - nobody wants the Medal Of Honor or Black and White's of this world anymore. They resent paying £10 for Deus Ex on budget when for only £5 more they can buy Mind Games 1 or SAM Strikes Out. In fact, the PC, as I see it, is dead! All those businesses are tired of paying huge licences to Microsoft and are going to abandon using Windows 2000 and Office and instead run all their applications from SAM Basic, using Outwrite for their letters and SC_DTP for their presentations. Who needs networking? We've got the RS232 connector, ever reliable I'm sure you'll agree. Yes yes, hold on to them games, hold on. Keep them all locked away and keep the SAM market to the little closed shop it has always been. This topic is dead, admittedly, but at least we stirred some interest on the list for a bit. In the mean time, if anybody has any SAM .dsk images they want to zip up and email to me so I can sit and break all the copyright laws in the world from the comfort of my own bedroom, please do. I've got a few lying around somewhere, so perhaps we could start some kind of rebellion and eventually overthrow the evil rulers that try and stop us playing Manic Miner in 16 colours. The stupid thing about the entire debate really is that much of the SAM market that is still alives thrives outside of the UK where copright control is somewhat less than perfectly observed. --- On another note, Colin MacD's SAM History is, I'm sure, STILL hugely interesting and would, no doubt stir up some good debate on this list. Any chance of a few leaks here and there Colin, or are oyu waiting for all the protagonists to die first, like in the JFK murder case??!?!?! --- and finally, anyone know what Alan and Bruce are doing now after all these years? Anyone still in touch? Did they ever get back into the pc industry again? --- Enough from me for now. Take it easy Johnna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Fred Bloggs Sent: 12 March 2002 12:36 To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Re: Please remove The list has cooled Johnna, only because we seem intent on musing over the finer points of copyright law. All very interesting as I'm sure you'll agree From: Johnna Teare [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no To: sam-users@nvg.ntnu.no Subject: Please remove Date: Mon, 11 Mar 2002 22:25:39 - The list has cooled... Just a quick thought - if anybody is updating their SAM websites in the next few millenium, please remove any links to anything that I once had up on the web. It's now all gone and it won't be going back up. The sites were located at the following: www.yi.com/home/TeareJohnna www.theunstoppablesexmachine.freeserve.co.uk www.johnnateare.co.uk Only a very minor thing, I know, but I'd be greatful thanks. Cheers, Johnna _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com _ Join the world's largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
