Re: [Samba] hardlink unlink-before-save?

2010-06-21 Thread Bartosz Stec

On 2010-06-21 07:15, Linda W wrote:

Bartosz Stec wrote:

Hello list

On my server almost half of files are duplicated, and there are 
almost 100GB of data which is growing fast. I'm using weekly script 
to find duplicated files and replace them with hardlinks. Everything 
is fine as long as users aren't trying to edit and save some 
documents which have hardlinks. With samba 3.3 it seems that 
hardlinks aren't unlinked before file is saved.

Is there any way to force samba to unlink file before write?

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Wouldn't that be a function of the application program?

Some applications do similar to that -- like a rename  create (where 
the old file will be around as a backup).  But some applications may try

to modify the file in-place.  It depends on the application.

You might be able to force the issue by changing the 
permissions/ownership on the linux server to a '3rd party' login and
set other permissions to read-only.  Then anyone who wants to write 
would have to delete the copy that is there (or rename it).
I think you'r missing a point. Windows apps don't realise there is even 
such thing like hard link. For instance someone simply open MS Excel 
spreasheet, edit and save it on network share. This xls file could have 
one or more hardlink, but it is now ignored at all. SAMBA is in fact a 
layer between Unix filesystem and Windows clients and programs, so the 
way which I/O operations and checks on filesystem is performed are 
strictly samba related AFAIK. Older versions seems to behave like I want 
it to according to:


http://lists-archives.org/samba/53311-smbd-not-breaking-hard-links-when-saving-files.html
http://groups.google.com/group/mailing.unix.samba/browse_thread/thread/8a593099a36f43eb

Unfortunately there was no straight answer, so I started another thread :)

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[Samba] hardlink unlink-before-save?

2010-06-11 Thread Bartosz Stec

Hello list

On my server almost half of files are duplicated, and there are almost 
100GB of data which is growing fast. I'm using weekly script to find 
duplicated files and replace them with hardlinks. Everything is fine as 
long as users aren't trying to edit and save some documents which have 
hardlinks. With samba 3.3 it seems that hardlinks aren't unlinked before 
file is saved.

Is there any way to force samba to unlink file before write?

Cheers

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Bartosz Stec


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