Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-18 Thread Michael Gasch

hi,

just to tell you that we had the same issue 2 years ago and my colleague 
blamed samba for this. in fact it turned out to be a SCSI HW problem on 
the system. all stress test on the local storage succeeded but when 
samba came into the game it broke the system. that's why we thought it's 
related to samba, which wasn't true...


micha

Michelle Dupuis wrote:

Not hijacking the thread here...just adding more info as I have the same
issue.

I run Samba 3.0.23c (on FC6 64 bit), and am backing up from a Windows box to
my Samba share.  Sometimes it works great; other times the samba share locks
up (I need to restart the smb service); and last week samba caused a kernel
panic.  I can sometimes get 65GB onto the share before it locks up.

I can backup to the share using NFS (using Windows Services for Unix)
without issue, but not to Samba.  My relevant smb.conf settings are:

reset on zero vc = yes
read raw = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192

Strangely, smb logs NO errors!  Trying to browse to the share from any
windows client times out.  But, after an smb restart everything is fine
again.

-MD-
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On 01/30/2007 02:44 PM, mactek - Manuel Teixeira wrote:

Hi all
 
I have a CentOS 4.4
 
Kernel 2.6.9-11.EL

Samba (smbd -V)
3.0.10-1.4E.9


As a side note, you _really_ should install a newer version of
Samba, the last stable release is 3.0.23d.


I've been using this server as a small file server recently i needed 
to do a backup (ntbackup to file) and the backup fails randomly, the 
largest backup file i managed was about 3GBytes I tried copying large 
files and randomly the connection is lost I tried with a ping at the 
same time and the replies don't get interrupted so it seems to me it 
is a samba issue
 
I have the latest versions (except the kernel) or so the updater tells 
me


If you are talking about samba then, no, definetely you don't have
the latest version. Could you please post your smb.conf so the list can take
a look at it?

Good tips would include to check the oplocks and the socket options.



thanks all
Manuel Teixeira


Kind regards,

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Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-09 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:04:18PM -0500, Michelle Dupuis wrote:
 I can see h/w being a cause in many cases.  We've reproduced this on 2
 different servers with 2 different storage technologies.  And once using
 Backup Exec and once using Ghost.
 
 Starting to smell a lot like a s/w problem...

We would need much more information. I know it's difficult
to do higher debug levels for this data rate, but without
more info we just can't diagnose this remotely.

Volker


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RE: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-09 Thread Michelle Dupuis
I'm not sure how best to proceed with this one either...short of generating
a huge amount of debug info.

One clue (should someone be reviewing the nearby code), is that the failure
appears to occur around the time of file close!  In my tests, I can write
out 65GB of data no problem, but around the time of file close smb hangs up.


I don't think it's an underlying filesystem issue since an equivalent write
using NFS to the same server works great.

MD

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From: Volker Lendecke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Volker
Lendecke
Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 4:22 AM
To: Michelle Dupuis
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a
SambaServer

On Thu, Feb 08, 2007 at 02:04:18PM -0500, Michelle Dupuis wrote:
 I can see h/w being a cause in many cases.  We've reproduced this on 2 
 different servers with 2 different storage technologies.  And once 
 using Backup Exec and once using Ghost.
 
 Starting to smell a lot like a s/w problem...

We would need much more information. I know it's difficult to do higher
debug levels for this data rate, but without more info we just can't
diagnose this remotely.

Volker


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Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-09 Thread Volker Lendecke
On Fri, Feb 09, 2007 at 08:12:24AM -0500, Michelle Dupuis wrote:
 I'm not sure how best to proceed with this one either...short of generating
 a huge amount of debug info.
 
 One clue (should someone be reviewing the nearby code), is that the failure
 appears to occur around the time of file close!  In my tests, I can write
 out 65GB of data no problem, but around the time of file close smb hangs up.
 
 
 I don't think it's an underlying filesystem issue since an equivalent write
 using NFS to the same server works great.

What do you mean with smbd hangs up? It might help to see
in what syscall it hangs. strace -p pid should tell you
that.

You could also compile smbd with -g and in the hang state
attach to it with gdb and give us the output of the bt (for
backtrace) command.

Volker


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RE: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-08 Thread Michelle Dupuis
I can see h/w being a cause in many cases.  We've reproduced this on 2
different servers with 2 different storage technologies.  And once using
Backup Exec and once using Ghost.

Starting to smell a lot like a s/w problem...

MD

-Original Message-
From: Michael Gasch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:49 PM
To: Michelle Dupuis
Cc: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a
SambaServer

hi,

just to tell you that we had the same issue 2 years ago and my colleague
blamed samba for this. in fact it turned out to be a SCSI HW problem on the
system. all stress test on the local storage succeeded but when samba came
into the game it broke the system. that's why we thought it's related to
samba, which wasn't true...

micha

Michelle Dupuis wrote:
 Not hijacking the thread here...just adding more info as I have the 
 same issue.
 
 I run Samba 3.0.23c (on FC6 64 bit), and am backing up from a Windows 
 box to my Samba share.  Sometimes it works great; other times the 
 samba share locks up (I need to restart the smb service); and last 
 week samba caused a kernel panic.  I can sometimes get 65GB onto the share
before it locks up.
 
 I can backup to the share using NFS (using Windows Services for Unix) 
 without issue, but not to Samba.  My relevant smb.conf settings are:
 
 reset on zero vc = yes
 read raw = yes
 socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
 
 Strangely, smb logs NO errors!  Trying to browse to the share from any 
 windows client times out.  But, after an smb restart everything is 
 fine again.
 
 -MD-
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 Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 AM
 To: samba@lists.samba.org
 Subject: Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a 
 SambaServer
 
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 On 01/30/2007 02:44 PM, mactek - Manuel Teixeira wrote:
 Hi all
  
 I have a CentOS 4.4
  
 Kernel 2.6.9-11.EL
 Samba (smbd -V)
 3.0.10-1.4E.9
 
   As a side note, you _really_ should install a newer version of
Samba, 
 the last stable release is 3.0.23d.
 
 
 I've been using this server as a small file server recently i needed 
 to do a backup (ntbackup to file) and the backup fails randomly, the 
 largest backup file i managed was about 3GBytes I tried copying large 
 files and randomly the connection is lost I tried with a ping at the 
 same time and the replies don't get interrupted so it seems to me it 
 is a samba issue
  
 I have the latest versions (except the kernel) or so the updater 
 tells me
 
   If you are talking about samba then, no, definetely you don't have 
 the latest version. Could you please post your smb.conf so the list 
 can take a look at it?
 
   Good tips would include to check the oplocks and the socket options.
 
 
 thanks all
 Manuel Teixeira
 
   Kind regards,
 
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Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-08 Thread Michael Gasch

hi,

just to tell you that we had the same issue 2 years ago and my colleague
blamed samba for this. in fact it turned out to be a SCSI HW problem on
the system. all stress test on the local storage succeeded but when
samba came into the game it broke the system. that's why we thought it's
related to samba, which wasn't true...

micha

Michelle Dupuis wrote:

Not hijacking the thread here...just adding more info as I have the same
issue.

I run Samba 3.0.23c (on FC6 64 bit), and am backing up from a Windows box to
my Samba share.  Sometimes it works great; other times the samba share locks
up (I need to restart the smb service); and last week samba caused a kernel
panic.  I can sometimes get 65GB onto the share before it locks up.

I can backup to the share using NFS (using Windows Services for Unix)
without issue, but not to Samba.  My relevant smb.conf settings are:

reset on zero vc = yes
read raw = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192

Strangely, smb logs NO errors!  Trying to browse to the share from any
windows client times out.  But, after an smb restart everything is fine
again.

-MD-
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felipe
Augusto van de Wiel
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a
SambaServer

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On 01/30/2007 02:44 PM, mactek - Manuel Teixeira wrote:

Hi all
 
I have a CentOS 4.4
 
Kernel 2.6.9-11.EL

Samba (smbd -V)
3.0.10-1.4E.9


As a side note, you _really_ should install a newer version of
Samba, the last stable release is 3.0.23d.


I've been using this server as a small file server recently i needed 
to do a backup (ntbackup to file) and the backup fails randomly, the 
largest backup file i managed was about 3GBytes I tried copying large 
files and randomly the connection is lost I tried with a ping at the 
same time and the replies don't get interrupted so it seems to me it 
is a samba issue
 
I have the latest versions (except the kernel) or so the updater tells 
me


If you are talking about samba then, no, definetely you don't have
the latest version. Could you please post your smb.conf so the list can take
a look at it?

Good tips would include to check the oplocks and the socket options.



thanks all
Manuel Teixeira


Kind regards,

- --
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RE: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-05 Thread Michelle Dupuis
Not hijacking the thread here...just adding more info as I have the same
issue.

I run Samba 3.0.23c (on FC6 64 bit), and am backing up from a Windows box to
my Samba share.  Sometimes it works great; other times the samba share locks
up (I need to restart the smb service); and last week samba caused a kernel
panic.  I can sometimes get 65GB onto the share before it locks up.

I can backup to the share using NFS (using Windows Services for Unix)
without issue, but not to Samba.  My relevant smb.conf settings are:

reset on zero vc = yes
read raw = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192

Strangely, smb logs NO errors!  Trying to browse to the share from any
windows client times out.  But, after an smb restart everything is fine
again.

-MD-
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Felipe
Augusto van de Wiel
Sent: Monday, February 05, 2007 9:05 AM
To: samba@lists.samba.org
Subject: Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a
SambaServer

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On 01/30/2007 02:44 PM, mactek - Manuel Teixeira wrote:
 Hi all
  
 I have a CentOS 4.4
  
 Kernel 2.6.9-11.EL
 Samba (smbd -V)
 3.0.10-1.4E.9

As a side note, you _really_ should install a newer version of
Samba, the last stable release is 3.0.23d.


 I've been using this server as a small file server recently i needed 
 to do a backup (ntbackup to file) and the backup fails randomly, the 
 largest backup file i managed was about 3GBytes I tried copying large 
 files and randomly the connection is lost I tried with a ping at the 
 same time and the replies don't get interrupted so it seems to me it 
 is a samba issue
  
 I have the latest versions (except the kernel) or so the updater tells 
 me

If you are talking about samba then, no, definetely you don't have
the latest version. Could you please post your smb.conf so the list can take
a look at it?

Good tips would include to check the oplocks and the socket options.


 thanks all
 Manuel Teixeira

Kind regards,

- --
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Tecnologia da Informação (CTI) - SEDU/PARANACIDADE
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Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-05 Thread Toby Bluhm

Michelle Dupuis wrote:

Not hijacking the thread here...just adding more info as I have the same
issue.

I run Samba 3.0.23c (on FC6 64 bit), and am backing up from a Windows box to
my Samba share.  Sometimes it works great; other times the samba share locks
up (I need to restart the smb service); and last week samba caused a kernel
panic.  I can sometimes get 65GB onto the share before it locks up.

I can backup to the share using NFS (using Windows Services for Unix)
without issue, but not to Samba.  My relevant smb.conf settings are:

reset on zero vc = yes
read raw = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192
  


The current thinking on this list sez that SO_RCVBUF and  SO_SNDBUF are 
not needed and may actually degrade performance. Try commenting those 
out  test again.




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Re: [Samba] Connection dropped when copying large files to a SambaServer

2007-02-05 Thread Toby Bluhm

Michelle Dupuis wrote:

Not hijacking the thread here...just adding more info as I have the same
issue.

I run Samba 3.0.23c (on FC6 64 bit), and am backing up from a Windows box to
my Samba share.  Sometimes it works great; other times the samba share locks
up (I need to restart the smb service); and last week samba caused a kernel
panic.  I can sometimes get 65GB onto the share before it locks up.

I can backup to the share using NFS (using Windows Services for Unix)
without issue, but not to Samba.  My relevant smb.conf settings are:

reset on zero vc = yes
read raw = yes
socket options = TCP_NODELAY SO_RCVBUF=8192 SO_SNDBUF=8192

  


Recent thinking is that so_rcvbuf  so_sndbuf are probably not needed 
anymore and may actually degrade performance. Try commenting them out  
test again.


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